How much stock do you put in TC reports?

[plasticman]

I love the reports like a starving man loves a cracker. It's all we got for now.

I don't base any expectations on training camp. For so many seasons, even back to the early 70's, I read or heard that Player X was "turning heads". Then, during the preseason games, he is practically invisible.

In 1972 it was their 1st round pick, Bill Thomas, from Boston College. The Cowboys took a RB in the 1st round in both 1969 and 1970, Calvin Hill and Duane Thomas. Supposedly, they had worked their magic again. He was 6'2 and 225 pounds, big for his day. He lasted a year with the Cowboys, returned two kickoffs. He lasted two more years in the league, 13 total carries. But what a training camp he had!

Ironically,the Cowboys also drafted a RB in the 2nd round that year, Robert Newhouse, and he had a very good career, was a big contributor as a runner, receiver and blocker for Dorsett after he was converted to FB. Didn't hear much about him that season in training camp.

The real focus should be on the 2nd year players, this should be the training camp where they really begin to put it together.

 

[dagreat1_87]

I love the reports like a starving man loves a cracker. It's all we got for now.

I don't base any expectations on training camp. For so many seasons, even back to the early 70's, I read or heard that Player X was "turning heads". Then, during the preseason games, he is practically invisible.

In 1972 it was their 1st round pick, Bill Thomas, from Boston College. The Cowboys took a RB in the 1st round in both 1969 and 1970, Calvin Hill and Duane Thomas. Supposedly, they had worked their magic again. He was 6'2 and 225 pounds, big for his day. He lasted a year with the Cowboys, returned two kickoffs. He lasted two more years in the league, 13 total carries. But what a training camp he had!

Ironically,the Cowboys also drafted a RB in the 2nd round that year, Robert Newhouse, and he had a very good career, was a big contributor as a runner, receiver and blocker for Dorsett after he was converted to FB. Didn't hear much about him that season in training camp.

The real focus should be on the 2nd year players, this should be the training camp where they really begin to put it together.

that was my mindset initially. i was just happy to get some type of cowboys news, and started soaking up everything as facts, but now i'm good with just waiting until the preseason games and regular season starts before i make any judgments.

 

[RS12]

Almost none because those reports are coming from the local Dallas media or team employees. Obviously the practices are important but those evaluating them don't mean much to me.

Are you questioning Mickey's integrity?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

There’s definitely things to learn from camp.
One can do A/B comparisons.

E.G.
Lenoir facing Awuzie
Versus
Gallup facing Awuzie

From footage you also can gauge how players move, bend, cut...

I try to read reports from writers who visit multiple camps.

 

[kskboys]

Just curious to know everyones thoughts on what we see and hear every year from the reporters for the team. Every year I get excited about new names stepping up and being the next breakout player based off reporting from TC. This player is catching everything, that player is dominating, this guy had the most interceptions in camp, but it seems like every year, they end up doing diddly squat and not showing anything, even in preseason games.

Its to the point where this year, I haven't really been keeping up with the reporting, because i think anybody called out won't be as good, like Lance Lenoir. Or remember how Byron was a star last camp? well, he's ranked as the number 1 best player in camp so far on the DC site...and they mean it this time lol. Not trying to be negative. Love the team, ready for the preseason games, and all that, but i'm skipping the training camp detailed recaps this year. If the next breakout start is coming, we'll all see him during the season. anyone else ever feel like this?

Almost none. It's fun to talk about, and interesting to hear how the players are doing, but nothing is being proven at this point.

 

[LocimusPrime]

 

[LocimusPrime]

Earlier this offseason, buzz surrounded DE Ryan Russell, a second-year defensive end from Purdue University. Ryan was pegged as a possible dark horse candidate for 2016 Week 1 starter. Given recent quotes from Cowboys coaches, what may have first been conjecture, could be turning into a real opportunity.

With projected starters DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory suspended, it’s a wide open competition regarding who will man the two defensive end spots come the first game of the season. Russell took all of the first team reps at left defensive end during OTAs and minicamp, the position Lawrence found his success at last season. Still a few weeks away from training camp, coach Jason Garrett again expressed confidence in the young defensive end:

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Russell only appeared in one game last season, and did not record any statistics. He ended the season on IR, but now seems primed to be help in providing a pass rush gone missing for years.

 

[Verdict]

We are learning a little. So there is some value to it.

It's significant when you hear a player sucks day after day. Seldom do those guys stick around. See Ealy.

 

[dagreat1_87]

This....this is exactly what im talking about. Just knew he was going to make an impact lol

 

[LocimusPrime]

COWBOYS NOTEBOOK: Texas A&M product Bass impresses

• Peter Rasmussen | The Monitor
  
• Jul 24, 2013
  
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Dallas Cowboys linebacker DeMarcus Ware (94) talks with teammate defensive tackle Ben Bass, right, during NFL football training camp, Wednesday, July 24, 2013, in Oxnard, Calif.

Gus Ruelas | The Associated Press

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OXNARD, Calif. – With the injuries to the defensive line, opportunities have risen for Ben Bass.

Bass has impressed his coaches during the first four days of training camp, coming at an opportune time for the second-year player out of Texas A&M. The defensive line’s depth has taken a big hit with injuries to Jay Ratliff, Anthony Spencer and Tyrone Crawford. The latter’s injury is season ending.

Bass has made the most of his opportunity to step in.


“We are really, really impressed by him at that initial mini-camp,” Cowboys coach Jason Garrett said Wednesday. “We kind of all looked at each other and said, ‘hey, he might be better than some of these other guys we signed right after the draft.’ So we gave him an opportunity and he grew and grew.”

Garrett said Bass needed to physically mature from last season, adding that that is the case with many players coming out of college.

Defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin has also been impressed with Bass.

“I like Ben,” Kiffin said. “He is working hard too. He had a good spring and he is having a good camp. Some of the young guys have to come on.”

Bass played in only two games last season before being injured. Because the defensive line has been depleted by injuries, the Cowboys are looking elsewhere for help. The Cowboys signed George Selvie.

Selvie has bounced around the league after being drafted in the seventh round by the St. Louis Rams in 2010.

 

[Verdict]

Are you questioning Mickey's integrity?

Yeah. Always. That's a given.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I put some but not a lot. Mostly depends who it’s coming from. Zero if it’s from Mickey or Ambar

 

[LocimusPrime]

Cowboys' Garrett: DL Nick Hayden an 'important signing'

• by Dave Peters
• Mar 26, 2015 • 1 min read

Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett made it a point of emphasis to mention to reporters at the NFL Meetings that re-signing defensive lineman Nick Hayden was important, reports the Dallas Morning News.

“Well, we’re always trying to get better and we have to get better,’’ Garrett said. “We have to bring some impact players into our defense. But Nick has been such a good player for us as a leader of that defensive line and he’s a really productive player. There’s a lot of the dirty work but he’s one of those guys who makes a lot of hits on the ball, is around the football a lot and simply makes a lot of plays.

"That was an important signing for us.’’

Hayden has started all 16 games with the Cowboys for two consecutive seasons. Over his seven-year career, he has 135 total tackles, two sacks, two passes defensed and one forced fumble.

 

[kskboys]

And those two examples are just a couple of many

 

[LocimusPrime]

WR Devin Street making noise at Cowboys’ OTAs
foxsportsMay 27, 2015 at 12:59p ET
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With Dez Bryant absent from OTAs, second year wide receiver Devin Street has an excellent opportunity to show that he offers the Cowboys a better option on the outside than Terrance Williams.

Brad Barr/Brad Barr-USA TODAY Sports

 

[LocimusPrime]

 

[LocimusPrime]

1. 
   Although it’s more difficult to stand out on offense, Devin Street is doing so at Cowboys camp. He is one of several receivers competing for the No. 3 spot.
   
   In the preseason opener, Street recorded four receptions on four targets for 43 yards. Despite being criticized for his lack of speed coming into the draft, the rookie looked like he had plenty of legs in his first game.
   
   ESPNDallas.com’s Todd Archer talked with head coach Jason Garrett about Street. Garrett said, “Devin’s a mature guy. He’s a really aware guy. He’s mature as a route runner. He’s quarterback-friendly.”
   

 

[LocimusPrime]

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   One seventh-round pick who is taking advantage of his time at camp is safety Ahmad Dixon. He led the team with 12 total tackles against the Chargers, 11 of which were solo.
   
   As mentioned, the defense was poor overall, but Dixon was definitely a bright point. He was flying around the ball, delivering big hits when he could.
   
   Despite suffering a concussion that will keep him out a few days, Garrett is excited about Dixon.
   

 

[CPanther95]

The only valuable, accurate info that comes out of training camp are the reports of injuries.

 

[LocimusPrime]