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He is in the same league with Revis IMO. He is top 5 out there. Sure he gets beat from time to time and has been owned in a game before (Brandon Marshall) but that is going to happen at CB. Carr has always been a terrific CB, I have watched him since he played for KC and tried to tell people here just how good he was. I kept hearing the "Lets wait and see" from people here. I didn't have to, I already knew. I love that guy. Also, I'm starting to notice a much more physical Claiborne out there. I saw him make some good tackles for once and also saw him trying hard to strip a ball.

No one is in Revis' league. Or at least Revis, pre-injury. Sherman is knocking on the door of that, but no one goes and hangs out on an Island like Revis did (and probably would if he was completely healthy and TB used him correctly).

I love Carr. He's been good with us. But I'd put (in no particular order at the moment) Sherman, Flowers, Joseph, Talib, Haden, Leon Hall, Peterson for sure above him, which puts him up there around 9th at best, but there are still some other really good ones out there.

The only thing that matters, is that he's good enough to be our number 1 and will help us be successful.
 

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No one is in Revis' league. Or at least Revis, pre-injury. Sherman is knocking on the door of that, but no one goes and hangs out on an Island like Revis did (and probably would if he was completely healthy and TB used him correctly).

I love Carr. He's been good with us. But I'd put (in no particular order at the moment) Sherman, Flowers, Joseph, Talib, Haden, Leon Hall, Peterson for sure above him, which puts him up there around 9th at best, but there are still some other really good ones out there.

The only thing that matters, is that he's good enough to be our number 1 and will help us be successful.

I would put Revis and Sherman above Carr but Carr is right there with Flowers, Joseph, Hayden, Peterson, etc. I watch every single one of those guys play too. Carr has always been drastically underrated. He is extremely talented and physical.. not to mention he plays with fire and hates to lose.
 

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For some reason, it won't let me edit my previous post, but here are the players we need to keep an eye on not named Stafford or Johnson:
- Reggie Bush - This one is obvious. I'm honestly not concerned with him as a runner, I'm concerned with him as a pass catcher. He's broken off some very impressive runs this year, they key to stopping him is to tackle him the first time, and not allow him to break tackles.
- Joique Bell - He may honestly be the best pure RB on the roster, guy runs with great power, and has good burst. Good thing is, he's also injured (ribs), and won't touch the ball much, unless Bush goes down.
- Joseph Fauria - The last name should look familiar. This is a guy that wasn't on my radar going into the season, but the undrafted rookie from UCLA has been lighting it up in the red zone (has 6 TD's on the year). He's 6'7", and has some of the best body control in the air I've seen. He's already taken Scheffler's place as the #2 TE.
- Kris Durham - This guy couldn't catch a cold last season, but with Burleson out, he's transformed into Stafford's #2 guy, and he's taken advantage of the opportunity. He's another monster on the outside at 6'6" with 4.4 speed.

Guys I don't expect to see play this week: Nate Burleson, Tony Scheffler,

Without Burleson, that means Detroit has only 1 receiver over 64 DYAR [Calvin Johnson - 14th] ... Dallas has three [Byrant - 9th, Williams - 16th and Beasley - 1st < 21 passes]. Durham [62nd] and Ogletree are well off the pace [DYAR < 20]. Witten and Fauria are a wash. Bush is the x factor but not between the tackles... he excels in space, which is why he is on his third team in 4 years. Dallas needs to prove the paper on Sunday and they will have a chance.
 

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No one is in Revis' league. Or at least Revis, pre-injury. Sherman is knocking on the door of that, but no one goes and hangs out on an Island like Revis did (and probably would if he was completely healthy and TB used him correctly).

I love Carr. He's been good with us. But I'd put (in no particular order at the moment) Sherman, Flowers, Joseph, Talib, Haden, Leon Hall, Peterson for sure above him, which puts him up there around 9th at best, but there are still some other really good ones out there.

The only thing that matters, is that he's good enough to be our number 1 and will help us be successful.
Joe Haden is the only guy I'd put at Revis level and I think he's close. He held Calvin Johnson to 3 catches for 25 yards and zero TDs. That's Revis-esque.
 

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Joe Haden is the only guy I'd put at Revis level and I think he's close. He held Calvin Johnson to 3 catches for 25 yards and zero TDs. That's Revis-esque.

Calvin Johnson was pretty limited that game and just played a little over half Lions' offensive snaps.

Johnson didn't go strictly up against Haden either. He was passed around.

All in all, I think Haden is having an awesome year, and is a young guy with loads of potential, but prior to this year he's never been asked to do what Revis does (0 help on a good majority of downs against the other team's #1), on purpose at least.

I'm going to take a look at his year so far this Saturday before I get my day going, but I'd be willing to bet he's still not playing a Revis role.
 

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Calvin Johnson was pretty limited that game and just played a little over half Lions' offensive snaps.

Johnson didn't go strictly up against Haden either. He was passed around.

All in all, I think Haden is having an awesome year, and is a young guy with loads of potential, but prior to this year he's never been asked to do what Revis does (0 help on a good majority of downs against the other team's #1), on purpose at least.

I'm going to take a look at his year so far this Saturday before I get my day going, but I'd be willing to bet he's still not playing a Revis role.
I'm not going to claim I religiously study Browns football or anything but I did live in Ohio from 2009-2011 so I've seen a good deal of Joe Haden. Especially in the 2011 season (last time I watched a good deal of Brownies football) he was just manning up with guys and running with them. I'd say most of the time he was either in man coverage or was in a quarters-quarters-half zone where he was responsible for half the field. Dude really is incredible, he's everything we imagined Claiborne would be but isn't. That said Revis is the best CB to ever play the game in my opinion so if you're going to put no one up there with him then I understand that, all I'm saying is Haden is #2 in the league and if post-injury-Revis isn't the same guy then Haden is the #1 in my opinion.
 

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Joe Haden is the only guy I'd put at Revis level and I think he's close. He held Calvin Johnson to 3 catches for 25 yards and zero TDs. That's Revis-esque.

Hayden is probably the 3rd best CB in the league behind Revis and Sherman.
 

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Stop it.....

I love Carr, but there is no one who can handle Calvin, nobody.....probably the only corners who can, are Haden or Sherman.

Revis completely shut him down the only time the two have faced off.
 

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Stop it.....

I love Carr, but there is no one who can handle Calvin, nobody.....probably the only corners who can, are Haden or Sherman.

I'm more concerned how the defense as a whole plays, more than who and how the Cowboys cover Calvin. He has put up big numbers and yet the Lions still have lost the game. I suspect Carr will cover CJ and he will get help through out the game.
 

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I'm not going to claim I religiously study Browns football or anything but I did live in Ohio from 2009-2011 so I've seen a good deal of Joe Haden. Especially in the 2011 season (last time I watched a good deal of Brownies football) he was just manning up with guys and running with them. I'd say most of the time he was either in man coverage or was in a quarters-quarters-half zone where he was responsible for half the field. Dude really is incredible, he's everything we imagined Claiborne would be but isn't. That said Revis is the best CB to ever play the game in my opinion so if you're going to put no one up there with him then I understand that, all I'm saying is Haden is #2 in the league and if post-injury-Revis isn't the same guy then Haden is the #1 in my opinion.

Yeah I went back and broke down every one of his snaps on game rewind last year. He really is an excellent CB. Plays very well within the system, very great closing and breaking on the ball. But there were a handful of guys I would've placed over him coming into this year because of consistency issues. Although he didn't yield a ton of negative stats, he was out of position on a higher percentage than guys like Sherman, Flowers, Hall to name a few.

There's been a lot of buzz about him so far this year so I've planned on setting time aside to check out how he's doing so far this year to see if my mind has changed. Talib is another guy I'll take a look at.

I'd say Claiborne actually has more potential than does Haden, but Haden is more aggressive and a better overall corner by far. It's really amazing that he's only a year older than Mo', too.
 

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Fortunately, Calvin Johnson is nowhere near 100%. Thev'e had talks of even shutting him down for a game or two, but they got one glimpse of how destructive that is to their offense (when they played at GB) that they will find a way to get him out there.

Anyway...advantage Dallas.

But sorry guys and gals, Brandon Carr cannot shut down even a hobbled Megatron all by himself. Johnson is taller, way faster, a much higher jumper, and yes, even stronger.
Carr is playing great right now and I'm sure he will match up with Calvin.
But he still will need help...just not as much as normal.
 
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Fortunately, Calvin Johnson is nowhere near 100%. Thev'e had talks of even shutting him down for a game or two, but they got one glimpse of how destructive that is to their offense (when they played at Cleveland) that they will find a way to get him out there.

Anyway...advantage Dallas.

But sorry guys and gals, Brandon Carr cannot shut down even a hobbled Megatron all by himself. Johnson is taller, way faster, a much higher jumper, and yes, even stronger.
Carr is playing great right now and I'm sure he will match up with Calvin.
But he still will need help...just not as much as normal.

Solution!!! force poor throws by Stafford. :)
 

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Brandon Carr - DB - Cowboys
Brandon Carr is expected to shadow Calvin Johnson Sunday.

The Cowboys won't risk letting Morris Claiborne get singled up on Calvin, so a shadow scheme makes sense. Carr has been excellent of late and currently grades out as ProFootballFocus' No. 13 overall corner out of 107 qualifiers. Of course, Megatron is a different beast and will be our top wideout play in Week 8.
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