How would you build a team?

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Like Jerry? He goes out and get the most talented players he can via free agency, and he thru his coaches input gets the most talented players that his coaches say are on the board when it is their time to pick.

So, you people that blame Jerry, My question to you is how would you build a team.

The only thing I see that Jerry missed on is his coaching staff, he has to bring in the most talented coaching staff as he can to coach all this talent.

That is where he fell short, since all the original coaches left, he lost sight, that his staff as to be as talented, and that is where he needs to put equal emphasis as he do the players.

When that happen, or,even if this staff we have now can, change and step to another level of excellence then we will win, and not before
 
Thru stern yet outside the box type coaches..
 
BHendri5;2563228 said:
Like Jerry? He goes out and get the most talented players he can via free agency, and he thru his coaches input gets the most talented players that his coaches say are on the board when it is their time to pick.

So, you people that blame Jerry, My question to you is how would you build a team.

The only thing I see that Jerry missed on is his coaching staff, he has to bring in the most talented coaching staff as he can to coach all this talent.

That is a huge part of the equation. And he's missed on the coaching staff 4 times in his last 5 attempts. And the majority of those times it wasn't just a casing of missing on the staff, it was a case of undervaluing the need for a strong HC and intentionally not hiring one. That combined with his need to be the main face of the organization.

As for personnel, he has signed several big name FA's through the years. It's obviously enough to appease the simpleminded in the fanbase. But until recently he missed on the draft more times than not. Nearly a decade of bad drafts, 4 poor coaching staffs in 5 attempts, and a total lack of concern for team chemistry all equals 13 consecutive years with no playoff wins.

What a good owner would do is hire the best GM he can find, open his wallet and then let the GM and the HC run the team. The HC should be in total control of his staff and work with the GM on acquiring the personnel.
 
Yeagermeister;2563310 said:
Hire the best GM I can find and get out of the way

I could not agree more!!


As long as Jerry owns this team and is GM, we will never be a Super Bowl threat.
 
What ya'll forget is that a GM, does not pick the players, he buys the groceries off the list that the coaches give him. That is what Jerry does, and has always done. so I'lll agree about him not staying focus on how important a strong coaching staff if, not just the HC, because a very good/great HC, but a poor staff under him does not win either. The staff is what makes HC good or great, most times. Jimmy without his staff won not one thing, Parcells without his staff won not one thing, Belichek is starting to lose mor and more of his staff and he has not won since 03/04?

So just a strong HC, alone will not put you over the hump.

The only time, Jerry goes out on his own is for a Prime time, T.O., RW11, Pac, Tank, I can live with that, he does it about once or twice every 2 yrs.

Jerry is the Cowboys, so why not be the face of the organization, He is the owner, right?

Heck if I owned them I would want to have my hand in everything as well. He writes all the checks.
 
BHendri5;2563228 said:
Like Jerry? He goes out and get the most talented players he can via free agency, and he thru his coaches input gets the most talented players that his coaches say are on the board when it is their time to pick.

So, you people that blame Jerry, My question to you is how would you build a team.

The only thing I see that Jerry missed on is his coaching staff, he has to bring in the most talented coaching staff as he can to coach all this talent.

That is where he fell short, since all the original coaches left, he lost sight, that his staff as to be as talented, and that is where he needs to put equal emphasis as he do the players.

When that happen, or,even if this staff we have now can, change and step to another level of excellence then we will win, and not before

Every team uses free agency...every team has the same cap...every team has equal chance to sign any player

Most of the best players we have were drafted by us (or signed as RFA, as in Romo's case)

the QB, all 3 RB's, top 3 TE's, #3 WR (last yrs #2), #4 WR and two of the OL's were drafted or signed as RFA here...all 3 starting DL's were drafted by us...the top 2 DE reserves were drafted/RFA by us...we regularly play 6 LB's and 5 of them were drafted by us...our top 3 CB's were drafted by us...the K and P were drafted/RFA by us...
 
BHendri5;2564144 said:
What ya'll forget is that a GM, does not pick the players, he buys the groceries off the list that the coaches give him. That is what Jerry does, and has always done. so I'lll agree about him not staying focus on how important a strong coaching staff if, not just the HC, because a very good/great HC, but a poor staff under him does not win either. The staff is what makes HC good or great, most times. Jimmy without his staff won not one thing, Parcells without his staff won not one thing, Belichek is starting to lose mor and more of his staff and he has not won since 03/04?

So just a strong HC, alone will not put you over the hump.

The only time, Jerry goes out on his own is for a Prime time, T.O., RW11, Pac, Tank, I can live with that, he does it about once or twice every 2 yrs.

Jerry is the Cowboys, so why not be the face of the organization, He is the owner, right?

Heck if I owned them I would want to have my hand in everything as well. He writes all the checks.

If I owned a team I'd have a hard time staying out of it as well but if I knew I had hired the best staff I could I'd trust them to build them team.

I let the GM make the picks and build the team. Then show up on game day sit in my private box and enjoy the team.
 
Coach: Don't get a stop gap coach simply because he teaches the same defense your defense uses. If you want a defensive coordinator to fix your issues, hire a defensive coordinator. If you want a coach, hire a coach. We hired Wade for his defensive coordinating abilities.. not his head coaching.

Assitants: Hire a coach that you believe is your guy. That means let him choose his staff. Not to bring back all old Cowboy coaches and players.

Players: There is a diference between leaders and people that just like to talk and say that they want to win. You draft for players, you use free agency for leaders.

Leadership: If the boat is sinking, plug it. When a person deserves to be cut, cut them. I am not one to pine for the good ol' Parcell's days (nor am I one to bash him), but Proctor would have been gone by mid season. Jones should have been cut right after his NFL suspension. Tank would have been cut immediately following the season. Make statements.

Fans: Don't listen to them. None know what they are talking about.
 
BHendri5;2564144 said:
What ya'll forget is that a GM, does not pick the players, he buys the groceries off the list that the coaches give him. That is what Jerry does, and has always done.

Actually that's not how it's has always been done. You seem to be forgetting that Jerry relied on Lacewell for nearly a decade when it came to the draft. When Jimmy and Parcells were here they were mainly responsible for buying the groceries. But Jerry didn't rely on Switzer, Gailey, Campo or now Wade to give him a list.


The staff is what makes HC good or great, most times. Jimmy without his staff won not one thing, Parcells without his staff won not one thing, Belichek is starting to lose mor and more of his staff and he has not won since 03/04?
So just a strong HC, alone will not put you over the hump.

No one said a HC alone will put us over the hump. I consistently said we need a strong HC and then let the HC hire his staff.

I'll tell you what won't work, and that's Jerry hiring soft HC's and then hiring many of his staff for him too, which is what he's done with 4 of our last 5 HC's.

Jerry is the Cowboys, so why not be the face of the organization, He is the owner, right?

Heck if I owned them I would want to have my hand in everything as well. He writes all the checks.

First Jerry isn't the Cowboys. They existed for nearly 30 years before Jerry bought the team and they'll exist long after he's gone.

Second, every team in the NFL has an owner, but with 2 or 3 exceptions, they aren't the face of their team. It's true that since Jerry is the owner that he has the right to do whatever he wants. And what he's done is ruin one dynasty that Jimmy and his staff built and now that we got back in the playoff picture thanks to Parcells, Jerry is now back to trying to tear that down.

The one good thing is that the recent drafts have been much better than those in the mid 90's to up to '02 when Jerry and Lacewell ran things. But that's only one aspect. We also need a good HC and one that Jerry gives enough authority to so he'll be respected. And good team chemistry, which is foster through having team unity and not bringing in bad character and "me" players. With those type of players and a HC the team doesn't respect because they know he doesn't have any real power, even over his own staff, then it's going to be nearly impossible to build team chemistry.

Until that all changes, we'll likely see much of what we've been seeing. It's up to Jerry to show if he really wants to win or just wants to continue being a fantasy owner with a real team.
 
i would put wade as a DC and get a more sturn coach and build around TO he is a playmaker get him the ball and you will win the cowboys need a saftey. get him in the draft. release WR Roy Williams the offence was better with TO craton and austin and safty roy williams get rid of him and have a big free agencey sorry for spelling
 
Steven_81;2564449 said:
i would put wade as a DC and get a more sturn coach and build around TO he is a playmaker get him the ball and you will win the cowboys need a saftey. get him in the draft. release WR Roy Williams the offence was better with TO craton and austin and safty roy williams get rid of him and have a big free agencey sorry for spelling

I wouldn't worry about the spelling, no biggie.
I'd worry more about wanting to build a team around a 35 year old WR.
 
Through the Draft.

I would not rely on Free Agency at all except in rare circumstances. Free Agents cost more and bring their own agendas to a team. I want guys fresh out of college whose only agenda is make the team. To do that they have to buy into the system in place.

I would resign my own players as opposed to shopping for retreads. Shopping in Free Agency would be rare.
 
Yeagermeister;2563310 said:
Hire the best GM I can find and get out of the way



Yep... and my last words to him before I "got out of the way" would be......


leave the Lombardi(s) on my desk :D
 
Yeagermeister;2563310 said:
Hire the best GM I can find and get out of the way
The only thing I'd hire a GM for is if I couldn't pick talent myself. But lately that hasn't really been a problem for Jerry at all. The only problem he's had lately is that he's hired a few "genius" coaches that haven't produced.
 
I find the best athletes with the most character issues or history and bring them on the team. If anything they will give you some press and we all know good press is better than no press.

Love,
Leather Face
 
BHendri5;2564144 said:
What ya'll forget is that a GM, does not pick the players, he buys the groceries off the list that the coaches give him.

I disagree. The GM should know the organization, the culture and the system and should select players that fit it. Coaching staffs change all of the time. Successful teams have programs and pick the players that fit the program. If they spent too much time buying the groceries from what the coaches ask for, it is a waste of time. The program should dictate the players. That's how teams stay consistent. Otherwise you are changing at the whims of the staff.

Heck if I owned them I would want to have my hand in everything as well. He writes all the checks.

If you had a relatively poor eye for how talent fits within a team environment you would be doing your team a disservice. It is not just as simple as taking talent every time and it takes care of itself. There is an environment that player is plugged into. The dynamics with other players and the staff has to be considered.

Jerry Jones says chemistry is overrated. Well, that is part of his problem. It might be overrated based off what he thought was successful back with the 1990s dynasty, but if he still believes that, he's living in the past. He takes too much of the Al Davis approach and it is fairly clear that has not worked for over a decade either.
 
Hire a competent GM.
Hire an authoritarian coach who is a good teacher.
Draft a franchise quarterback.
Build the offensive and defensive lines.
Draft a top-notch corner.
Add other players according to their work ethic and character.

CHAMPEENSHIP!
 
BHendri5;2563228 said:
Like Jerry? He goes out and get the most talented players he can via free agency, and he thru his coaches input gets the most talented players that his coaches say are on the board when it is their time to pick.

So, you people that blame Jerry, My question to you is how would you build a team.

The only thing I see that Jerry missed on is his coaching staff, he has to bring in the most talented coaching staff as he can to coach all this talent.

That is where he fell short, since all the original coaches left, he lost sight, that his staff as to be as talented, and that is where he needs to put equal emphasis as he do the players.

When that happen, or,even if this staff we have now can, change and step to another level of excellence then we will win, and not before

Only thing? That is the MOST IMPORTANT THING. You make it sound like a minor inconvenience or hangnail (note most jerry homers do this also downplaying his pathetic 19 year run).

even with the best coaching staff (instead of the worst) best-friend-jerry needs to STEP DOWN FROM EVERYTHING FOOTBALL and get a real GM/football guy overseeing things.

Bring in a guy like Cowher and let him run the show, including helping to select a GM. that would GUARANTEE you a better 10 year run than the last, dreadful decade.
 

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