How would you build a team?

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theogt;2564554 said:
The only thing I'd hire a GM for is if I couldn't pick talent myself. But lately that hasn't really been a problem for Jerry at all. The only problem he's had lately is that he's hired a few "genius" coaches that haven't produced.

That would be the GM's job and if he couldn't do it find someone who can.
 

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Yeagermeister;2564575 said:
That would be the GM's job and if he couldn't do it find someone who can.
You're judging the decisions in hindsight, not based on the information on hand at the time. At the time, Wade was considered "Mr. Fix It" for the defense and Garrett was the genius offensive guy. Then they brought in one of the highest regarded O-line coaches in the league. Very few questioned those moves at the time they were made. Some did, myself included. But someone who only does so in hindsight gets no credibility whatsoever.
 

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theogt;2564587 said:
You're judging the decisions in hindsight, not based on the information on hand at the time. At the time, Wade was considered "Mr. Fix It" for the defense and Garrett was the genius offensive guy. Then they brought in one of the highest regarded O-line coaches in the league. Very few questioned those moves at the time they were made. Some did, myself included. But someone who only does so in hindsight gets no credibility whatsoever.

I'm not basing anything on the Dallas situation.

If I bought a team that is how I'd run it.
 

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chinch;2564567 said:
even with the best coaching staff (instead of the worst) best-friend-jerry needs to STEP DOWN FROM EVERYTHING FOOTBALL and get a real GM/football guy overseeing things.

That has no chance of happening unless Jerry Jones hits rock bottom again and asks for help. His drunken comments to the staff when the blowup with Coach Johnson occurred should tell everyone exactly how he operates when he is feeling good about himself. His team went into disarray and he started losing money. Only then did he "change". That moment of self-realization is what drove him to do what he did with Bill Parcells and a very talentless and broken team started winning again. Say what you want to about not winning a championship with Coach Parcells, but it was a success. What we have right now is due in large part to hiring him. Once he got comfortable again, he started resenting the eggshells he felt he had to walk on and it is now back to Power Jerry.

Above all, Jerry Jones needs to learn how to trust his football people. He seems to have learned to trust his scouts. Finally. After over a decade of drafting futility. It is now time again to get the right staff and let them do their jobs without looking over their shoulders.
 

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How would I build a team? With California penal players! :laugh2:

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1. Hire talent scouts. Not scouts that hunt for players, but for coaches and management.

2. Hire someone to make the personell decisions that actually knows a lot about the process, and allow them to assemble a staff without interference.

3. Have an oversight committee in place for each department, so everyone always has someone to answer to, and hold them accountable to keep me informed of everything going on within each department of the organization.

4. Personally interview and meet each person that is up for a position, but leave the final decision up to the people I have put in place to do just that.

5. Hire an assessment crew that will sit with the personell director and evaluate each and every potential roster member, and agreeing on who to keep and who to cut, taking the job out of ultimately being in one man's hands, so that personal preference or bias can't intervene.

6. After the management and roster positions are filled, hold a team meeting with every single person on the payroll to inform them of the state of the franchise, and what I expect from each and every one of them.

7. Inform everybody as a group, and reassure them individually that laziness, selfishness and lack of effort will not be tolerated.

8. Let everyone know that their starting job is not a guarantee, and that regardless of salary, anyone is subject to dismissal for failure to perform, or live up to what is expected from you. Reiterate that egos will not be tolerated, and everyone will live by the same rules. Also inform players that during football season, they are expected to live and die football. Inform them that their free time is theirs, but to use it wisely.

9. Assemble with guidance from professionals, the greatest medical staff ever put together.

10. Start workouts, training, etc. to evaluate and condition players. Limit access to the media for all of training camp/minicamps/preseason, just to make sure everyone remains focused.

11. Promote the hell out of the team, including offseason accomplishments, and the direction the team is taking.

12. No matter what the situation, always maintain a zero tolerance policy. You will never call out teammates or staff, and staff will never blame or point fingers.

Just a rough outline, but I think it could work for anybody.
 

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Extreme;2564722 said:
1. Hire talent scouts. Not scouts that hunt for players, but for coaches and management.

2. Hire someone to make the personell decisions that actually knows a lot about the process, and allow them to assemble a staff without interference.

3. Have an oversight committee in place for each department, so everyone always has someone to answer to, and hold them accountable to keep me informed of everything going on within each department of the organization.

4. Personally interview and meet each person that is up for a position, but leave the final decision up to the people I have put in place to do just that.

5. Hire an assessment crew that will sit with the personell director and evaluate each and every potential roster member, and agreeing on who to keep and who to cut, taking the job out of ultimately being in one man's hands, so that personal preference or bias can't intervene.

6. After the management and roster positions are filled, hold a team meeting with every single person on the payroll to inform them of the state of the franchise, and what I expect from each and every one of them.

7. Inform everybody as a group, and reassure them individually that laziness, selfishness and lack of effort will not be tolerated.

8. Let everyone know that their starting job is not a guarantee, and that regardless of salary, anyone is subject to dismissal for failure to perform, or live up to what is expected from you. Reiterate that egos will not be tolerated, and everyone will live by the same rules. Also inform players that during football season, they are expected to live and die football. Inform them that their free time is theirs, but to use it wisely.

9. Assemble with guidance from professionals, the greatest medical staff ever put together.

10. Start workouts, training, etc. to evaluate and condition players. Limit access to the media for all of training camp/minicamps/preseason, just to make sure everyone remains focused.

11. Promote the hell out of the team, including offseason accomplishments, and the direction the team is taking.

12. No matter what the situation, always maintain a zero tolerance policy. You will never call out teammates or staff, and staff will never blame or point fingers.

Just a rough outline, but I think it could work for anybody.

13. Hire a team of head shrinkers to analyze the players on this team. I have never seen so many with such paranoia, insecurity and immaturity.
 

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Alexander;2564892 said:
13. Hire a team of head shrinkers to analyze the players on this team. I have never seen so many with such paranoia, insecurity and immaturity.

I thought that was what the Wunderlic test was for?

Half joking...
 

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BHendri5;2563228 said:
The only thing I see that Jerry missed on is his coaching staff, he has to bring in the most talented coaching staff as he can to coach all this talent.

That is where he fell short, since all the original coaches left, he lost sight, that his staff as to be as talented, and that is where he needs to put equal emphasis as he do the players.

When that happen, or,even if this staff we have now can, change and step to another level of excellence then we will win, and not before

Some of the assistant coaches that have been brought to Dallas are very well respected around the league.
 

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Hostile;2564484 said:
Through the Draft.

I would not rely on Free Agency at all except in rare circumstances. Free Agents cost more and bring their own agendas to a team. I want guys fresh out of college whose only agenda is make the team. To do that they have to buy into the system in place.

I would resign my own players as opposed to shopping for retreads. Shopping in Free Agency would be rare.

how would you handle re-signings? Philly-like or Jerry-like
 

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theogt;2564554 said:
The only problem he's had lately is that he's hired a few "genius" coaches that haven't produced.

A few?

He hired Parcells who took a team that finished 5-11 three straight years and had winning seasons 3 of the 4 seasons he was here.

And I don't think anyone would mistake Wade, Campo, Gailey or Switzer as geniuses, at least not as NFL HC's.

So what are you talking about again?
 

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Hostile;2564484 said:
Through the Draft.

I would not rely on Free Agency at all except in rare circumstances. Free Agents cost more and bring their own agendas to a team. I want guys fresh out of college whose only agenda is make the team. To do that they have to buy into the system in place.

I would resign my own players as opposed to shopping for retreads. Shopping in Free Agency would be rare.

I always think you need to go after solid players in FA not that big name TO but the lunch pail guys ones that are solid but unspectacular in FA these guys always seem to last on teams and at least give you solid play.
 

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Bach;2564927 said:
A few?

He hired Parcells who took a team that finished 5-11 three straight years and had winning seasons 3 of the 4 seasons he was here.

And I don't think anyone would mistake Wade, Campo, Gailey or Switzer as geniuses, at least not as NFL HC's.

So what are you talking about again?
Wade's widely regarded as one of the best defensive minds in the NFL. I'm sure he's been referred to as a "defensive genius" quite a few times. And that was apparently the entire reason of bringing Garret in. Everyone claimed he was a genius. Same with Hudson Houck. He was regarded as the best O-line coach on in the NFL by many.

That's three, which is in my book "a few." Whether you agree that they're "geniuses" or not, I couldn't really care less. At the time, the majority opinion on all three was that they're extremely smart and good at what they do. Sure, no one in the NFL can really be considered a "genius." But like I said, they were considered as some of the best at their particular area of expertise. If you want to bash Jerry for hiring people with that sort of reputation, go right ahead.
 

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theogt;2564974 said:
Wade's widely regarded as one of the best defensive minds in the NFL. I'm sure he's been referred to as a "defensive genius" quite a few times. And that was apparently the entire reason of bringing Garret in. Everyone claimed he was a genius. Same with Hudson Houck. He was regarded as the best O-line coach on in the NFL by many.

That's three, which is in my book "a few." Whether you agree that they're "geniuses" or not, I couldn't really care less. At the time, the majority opinion on all three was that they're extremely smart and good at what they do. If you want to bash Jerry for hiring people with that sort of reputation, go right ahead.

Wade was never a successful HC. If Jerry just wanted him to fix the defense then we should've brought him here to be the DC.

As for the assistants, there's no reason Jerry should be hiring them in the first place. Just another reason why this is such a dysfunctional organization with him at the helm. He brings in an OC before we have a HC. Then he hires the HC based on one aspect, he's a good DC. Then he hires guys like Campo and Houck, who may be decent assistants, but you think they are more loyal to Wade or Jerry? When push comes to shove that does matter, believe it or not and is just another thing to get in the way of team unity and chemistry.

There is no reason Jerry can't hire a quality HC and let him hire his own staff, other than the simple fact Jerry has a Texas-sized ego and thinks he knows best and has to be the face of the franchise even though it's never worked that way.
 

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Bach;2564991 said:
Wade was never a successful HC. If Jerry just wanted him to fix the defense then we should've brought him here to be the DC.

As for the assistants, there's no reason Jerry should be hiring them in the first place. Just another reason why this is such a dysfunctional organization with him at the helm. He brings in an OC before we have a HC. Then he hires the HC based on one aspect, he's a good DC. Then he hires guys like Campo and Houck, who may be decent assistants, but you think they are more loyal to Wade or Jerry? When push comes to shove that does matter, believe it or not and is just another thing to get in the way of team unity and chemistry.

There is no reason Jerry can't hire a quality HC and let him hire his own staff, other than the simple fact Jerry has a Texas-sized ego and thinks he knows best and has to be the face of the franchise even though it's never worked that way.
Did you purposefully not refute a single statement I made, or was that solely a result of ineptitude?
 

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Kangaroo;2564965 said:
I always think you need to go after solid players in FA not that big name TO but the lunch pail guys ones that are solid but unspectacular in FA these guys always seem to last on teams and at least give you solid play.
I agree with you. I would not go after superstars in FA. I would go after a Kyle Kosier. FA is where I would look even harder at character. Give me guys who lay it all on the line even if their all isn't as good as the Superstar who can coast and still beat you.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;2564894 said:
I thought that was what the Wunderlic test was for?

Half joking...

The Wonderlic is more of an intelligence test than a personality inventory.

I don't know how seriously Jerry Jones and the organization take it, but if they do not, they really might want to consult with sports psychologists.
 

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The problem with Jerry is that he's not and never will be a football guy. He only plays one on TV. Assembling a coaching staff, evaluating talent, putting together a blueprint football related are not his fortes
 

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Defense First (while getting my Oline in place as well) then running back then wide out then qb.
 
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