Hulk Smash and its benefit for our offense

[ESisback]

I would have lit up your signal, but I knew your arrival was inevitable.

What’s Ranching’s light? A cow? A tractor? For example, G2’s light isn’t a bat. It’s 2 strips of bacon.

 

[McKDaddy]

The key to anything gimmicky is not showing it till you need it because teams adjust to almost anything they see on film

That is the beauty of this package at this time in the NFL. Most teams are built to be better lighter as passing has dominated. Not sure how many even have the personnel to counter much less to take up roster spots on game days.

 

[xwalker]

I'm going to light the @xwalker @Dak_Attack_09 signals on this one.
I have that power.
And it's cloudy outside so the light beams should be wonderfully defined.

Just when I took out the telescope too!

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...-7-ol-packages-shows-big-creativity-offers-ju

I wanted to discuss the 7 OL package that we rolled out last year and how and why it could be a huge addition to our offense if used correctly.
Now obviously we don't have those same 7 linemen this year, but IT will still work the same if the offensive brain trust puts the effort into continuing it.
The beauty of this package is that when used enough ( not just the couple throw away plays they had last year especially in the playoffs ) it can be an equal threat in the running and passing game.

Lets brainstorm to figure out the best uses of this offense and how on earth you would defend this without revamping your whole draft strategy.

5 OL on the line, 1 QB, 2 OL lined up as wingbacks - and three wildcard players to do with as you please.
Do you go with 1 RB, 2 WR. 1 RB 2 TE for a truly big package that can still pass effectively.
2 RB 1 WR.
The obvious advantage is the multiple inside and outside runs that can be configured, with pulls, traps, straight blocking and inside and outside zone blocking.
But for us the beauty of this is the coverage mismatches.
Say you go 1 RB, 2WR. They will have to use man coverage, they cant disguise anything against Dak, one guy gets doubled one gets singled and there is still and outlet swing pass.

If I were Kellen, I'd still use it sparingly until the playoffs then crank its usage to 90% and beat the other teams into submission. It was the perfect counter to the 49ers bully ball, we ran it, they were like oh ****. Then we stopped ( still pisses me off ).

I'll start the discussion on how to defend it would you use a 6/2/3 a 5/3/3 because remember the bigger you go the more back ups you are playing.

All of these decades of NFL teams and hundreds of coaching staffs, but none of them every saw the magical opportunity that menolian has identified to run a 7 OL package on 90% of snaps.

It seems so obvious now, especially in the modern era of the NFL as a passing league.

Those thousands of coaches that spend all day, every day scheming to get an advantage on their opponents must have been some really dumb suckers for not thinking of this concept themselves...

Why stop at 7...I remember seeing Martin throwing passes to Frederick in pre-game warmups back when Fred was on the roster.
- Martin at QB.
- Tyler Smith at RB.
- 9 OL in front of them.

OT OL OL OG OC OG OL OL OT

We're going to need new position names for those guys between the OT and OG.
- Are the guys next to the OT called Tackle-Guards and the guys next to the OG called Guard-Tackles?

OT OTG OGT OG OC OG OGT OTG OT

Do they give out Nobel prizes for this type of revolutionary thinking...

 

[conner01]

That is the beauty of this package at this time in the NFL. Most teams are built to be better lighter as passing has dominated. Not sure how many even have the personnel to counter much less to take up roster spots on game days.

If you surprise a team with it you could really get a great matchup or force a TO
But like the wildcat and others, teams will be watching for it and when you send it out they will counter
Used sparingly it could get you a positive result and I think that’s the way trick plays work best

 

[menolian]

Well we know who gets the nobel prize for being a douchenozzle.

The NFL has always been about exploiting matchups, if Mike Martz hadnt come around the run and gun would have died in the nineties and we'd all still be watching two back, two wr, one TE sets. Hell with your way of thinking we'd be driving gas cars till the cows come home.
Sometimes its worth it to think outside the box. And guess what our OC and HC ( who have plenty of experience )have already put this play in. All i'm suggesting is that come playoff time - it may be the catalyst that gets us over the hump. So what if it gets figured out a year after, you get your superbowl and say thank you.
And for your information a balanced running attack ( actually run heavy) is what beat us in this most recent playoff and also what won the last superbowl.
Since xwalker posted the stats of what our defense uses - what defense would you run against it, remember our lightest lineman is still over 300lbs.
As far as questioning my intelligence, you will lose.
You're great with stats but that parnell fetish you had just made it seem like you wanted him to turn your tight end into a wide receiver.

 

[xwalker]

Well we know who gets the nobel prize for being a douchenozzle.

The NFL has always been about exploiting matchups, if Mike Martz hadnt come around the run and gun would have died in the nineties and we'd all still be watching two back, two wr, one TE sets. Hell with your way of thinking we'd be driving gas cars till the cows come home.
Sometimes its worth it to think outside the box. And guess what our OC and HC ( who have plenty of experience )have already put this play in. All i'm suggesting is that come playoff time - it may be the catalyst that gets us over the hump. So what if it gets figured out a year after, you get your superbowl and say thank you.
And for your information a balanced running attack ( actually run heavy) is what beat us in this most recent playoff and also what won the last superbowl.
Since xwalker posted the stats of what our defense uses - what defense would you run against it, remember our lightest lineman is still over 300lbs.
As far as questioning my intelligence, you will lose.
You're great with stats but that parnell fetish you had just made it seem like you wanted him to turn your tight end into a wide receiver.

With 27 posts but you remember the Parnell posts...that's a guarantee that this is not your 1st member account at CZ.

Martz didn't run an offense on 90% of snaps that no teams had ever used for more than 10 snaps in a game.

My point is that you!re insulting the intelligence of all offensive coaches when you believe that you're on to something that they were too dumb to have tried.

I design machines (instruments) for a Silicon Valley company that extract information from DNA beyond what has been done previously. We're literally going to cure diseases that most people believe would never be cured.

 

[buybuydandavis]

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...-7-ol-packages-shows-big-creativity-offers-ju

I wanted to discuss the 7 OL package that we rolled out last year and how and why it could be a huge addition to our offense if used correctly.
Now obviously we don't have those same 7 linemen this year, but IT will still work the same if the offensive brain trust puts the effort into continuing it.
The beauty of this package is that when used enough ( not just the couple throw away plays they had last year especially in the playoffs ) it can be an equal threat in the running and passing game.

Lets brainstorm to figure out the best uses of this offense and how on earth you would defend this without revamping your whole draft strategy.

5 OL on the line, 1 QB, 2 OL lined up as wingbacks - and three wildcard players to do with as you please.
Do you go with 1 RB, 2 WR. 1 RB 2 TE for a truly big package that can still pass effectively.
2 RB 1 WR.
The obvious advantage is the multiple inside and outside runs that can be configured, with pulls, traps, straight blocking and inside and outside zone blocking.
But for us the beauty of this is the coverage mismatches.
Say you go 1 RB, 2WR. They will have to use man coverage, they cant disguise anything against Dak, one guy gets doubled one gets singled and there is still and outlet swing pass.

If I were Kellen, I'd still use it sparingly until the playoffs then crank its usage to 90% and beat the other teams into submission. It was the perfect counter to the 49ers bully ball, we ran it, they were like oh ****. Then we stopped ( still pisses me off ).

I'll start the discussion on how to defend it would you use a 6/2/3 a 5/3/3 because remember the bigger you go the more back ups you are playing.

Arguably our best formation last year, putting defenders on an island against our best players. Without Cooper and Collins, it's not as strong this year. Not the same depth on the oline, certainly not as much threat at WR.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I don't like jumbo personal. Our RB's have to get pass all of those offensive and defensive players just to pick up one yard. The OL as a fullback worked in short yardage pretty good last season. But thinking we can drive the ball using jumbo only, isn't going to work. This is the NFL not the CFL.

I don't like Fake Jumbo, where we put a bunch of TEs who can't really block on the field.

If you can still drive with 7 linemen, I think it's a huge advantage. You're gonna wear down the dline. Dlines rely on rotation to stay fresh. Not rotation for the big guys if your defense has to match up against 7 310+ linemen on every down.

 

[DCwarrior]

Jerry needs to do a Cowboys comic book. Make a killing

He does a comic book story every year as GM. All he has to do is put it on paper with cartoon drawings.

 

[Whirlwin]

I love a NG....line him up in front of the center and then slant him....a good one can take up the center and both guards.....that's 3 OL for one nose guard.....we don't have one of them studs, I had 2 of them and they made my career.

I’ve been saying it for The last 25 years

 

[ESisback]

Arguably our best formation last year, putting defenders on an island against our best players. Without Cooper and Collins, it's not as strong this year. Not the same depth on the oline, certainly not as much threat at WR.

Cooper and Collins weren’t near the threat in 2021 that they were previously. I think once Gallup returns, we’ll be fine at WR, and I actually believe the OL will be improved in 2022.

 

[charron]

I'm not so sure about the whole 90% thing but could they run more hulk package...yes absolutely. Best chance of success is let this OL run block a defense to death and beat them into submission. Sprinkle in some pass plays vs a wore out DL who can't get off the field and make Dak's job super easy. Just don't stop running pollard after he runs in a 40+ yard TD and they will be ok regardless of formation.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Cooper and Collins weren’t near the threat in 2021 that they were previously. I think once Gallup returns, we’ll be fine at WR, and I actually believe the OL will be improved in 2022.

Oline probably worse.
Certainly not the depth we had last year, which is relevant to the Hulk Smash. Steele used to be one of the +2. Now it's who? We lost two starters and drafted one. Our depth took a hit.

 

[ChuckA1]

Fastest way to an elite defense is an elite NT. The Cowboys organization doesn't seem to place an emphasis on that position

 

[buybuydandavis]

Cooper and Collins weren’t near the threat in 2021 that they were previously. I think once Gallup returns, we’ll be fine at WR, and I actually believe the OL will be improved in 2022.

Cooper was still our best WR. Still a guy teams had to double. Particularly relevant in the Hulk Smash, as it clears out the field for the remaining WRs. Much harder to cheat other players to help. You're putting the DBs on an island.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Fastest way to an elite defense is an elite NT. The Cowboys organization doesn't seem to place an emphasis on that position

I wonder. I was surprised they did nothing at 3T. Will the next high draft choice in the middle be a NT or DT? Could be NT.

 

[ChuckA1]

I wonder. I was surprised they did nothing at 3T. Will the next high draft choice in the middle be a NT or DT? Could be NT.

That will make me plenty happy. And that's one position a high quality FA might be worth taking on the expense

 

[ESisback]

Oline probably worse.
Certainly not the depth we had last year, which is relevant to the Hulk Smash. Steele used to be one of the +2. Now it's who? We lost two starters and drafted one. Our depth took a hit.

My opinion remains unchanged.

 

[ESisback]

Cooper was still our best WR. Still a guy teams had to double. Particularly relevant in the Hulk Smash, as it clears out the field for the remaining WRs. Much harder to cheat other players to help. You're putting the DBs on an island.

I think we’ll be fine.

 

[xwalker]

Fastest way to an elite defense is an elite NT. The Cowboys organization doesn't seem to place an emphasis on that position

• Is it?
  • Super Bowl Winning Team's Starting NT
    • 2021 season: Greg Gaines
    • 2019 season: Derrick Nnadi
    • 2018 season: Malcom Brown