Hunkering down with a statistically brilliant QB who's a loser

[UVAwahoos]

We have a head coach, his name is Jerry Jones

Hahaha that's true. Womp womp

 

[Mansta54]

Romo is the least of the Cowboys problems.

I can't believe I just said that. Anyway, there are probably 20 or more teams in the NFL who would love to have Romo as their starting QB.

It was said here a long time ago now...the kid has moxie. No quit in him at all. Problem is and only is that he has a little too much Favre resemblance than Peyton Manning as far as playing style.

Ahh, such as yours.. Just sayin!!

 

[DWhite Fan]

False statement unless you assume that without Romo we would have to use McGee or some other QB that is not and never will be starting caliber.

Remember, we won 5 games in half a season without Romo in 2010.

The reality is that without Romo we could win or lose more than we do now. It just depends on who the replacement is.

I am saying that if you had to start Kitna or McGee for any substantial time, like a whole season, you would find out just how important Romo is to this team. As to being able to win or lose, that is why the games are played (on any given Sunday) but does not reflect on how important Romo is to this team
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[SkinsandTerps]

Wimbo, Marino never really had a running game. They passed and passed and passed some more.

Dolphins never gave Marino a real chance to not throw the ball. His best RB was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

 

[CCBoy]

Well, for starters... Marino Started for 17 seasons (Moon 17, Fouts 15, Esiason 14, and Kelly 11) while Romo has only been a starter for 6 seasons. Looking at totals is not a fair assessment of statistics. Yet, with all Marino's greatness (which I watched as an avid football fan & agree with ), consider this...

Completion %: Romo 64.5; Marino 59.4
TD %: Romo 5.7; Marino 5.0
Interception %: Romo 2.8; Marino 3.0
Yards per attempt: Romo 8; Marino 7.3
QB Rating: Romo 96.9; Marino 86.4
Sacked %: Romo 5.2; Marino 3.1

Despite being a QB known for being mobile in the pocket, Romo has been sacked (on average) nearly twice as much as Marino, who was known as a purely pocket passer that couldn't move well. Yet, Romo's production is still on par with (or in most cases better than) the great Dan Marino. The difference is that Marino had protection and Romo does not.

Give Romo a solid line & great things will happen.

Now that's a power packed post....:starspin

 

[DWhite Fan]

Wimbo, Marino never really had a running game. They passed and passed and passed some more.

Dolphins never gave Marino a real chance to not throw the ball. His best RB was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

What I will always remember about Marino is his game against the Bears in 1985. In the shotgun from the very first snap, Dan was brilliant that night against one heck of a defense.

 

[Gemini Dolly]

Romo is going to be our Mcnabb. But at least mcnabb can say he got to puke on superbowl grass

 

[DWhite Fan]

Romo is going to be our Mcnabb. But at least mcnabb can say he got to puke on superbowl grass

I assure you this, if Tony gets to a SB, he will do a heck of a lot more than McFlabb did and Romo's team will walk away with the Lombardi...
:starspin

 

[Stautner]

Well, for starters... Marino Started for 17 seasons (Moon 17, Fouts 15, Esiason 14, and Kelly 11) while Romo has only been a starter for 6 seasons. Looking at totals is not a fair assessment of statistics. Yet, with all Marino's greatness (which I watched as an avid football fan & agree with ), consider this...

Completion %: Romo 64.5; Marino 59.4
TD %: Romo 5.7; Marino 5.0
Interception %: Romo 2.8; Marino 3.0
Yards per attempt: Romo 8; Marino 7.3
QB Rating: Romo 96.9; Marino 86.4
Sacked %: Romo 5.2; Marino 3.1

Despite being a QB known for being mobile in the pocket, Romo has been sacked (on average) nearly twice as much as Marino, who was known as a purely pocket passer that couldn't move well. Yet, Romo's production is still on par with (or in most cases better than) the great Dan Marino. The difference is that Marino had protection and Romo does not.

Give Romo a solid line & great things will happen.

Looking at totals is fair because in the absence of playoff appearances and successes career numbers and longevity are what a QB has to lean on to be deemed great. At a minimum you have to have one or the other, and often both, and without either a player will be left as a star player for a time who fell short of greatness.

As for the statistical comparison with Marino, remember that his stats also reflect the dropoff over the last 3-4 years of his career as he aged. The same will happen to Romo.

Also, your stats ignores that Marino was in the playoffs 10 times, and got to the Super Bowl once, and maintained success for a hell of a long time - all of which adds to his status as a great QB.

Finally, Romo also passed Staubach in those areas you mentioned. Not sure many Cowboy fans would put Romo in the same Company with Staubach.

As for Marino not being sacked that much, the thought on him was always quick decisions, quick release and great pocket awareness. All of that was obvious in watching Marino.

 

[gbrittain]

If you put an ALL STAR team around most any QB, they can win a Super Bowl. UNFORTUNATELY, that's not how this league works. You have to win with what you have. You can't tell me his receivers aren't good enough. If you do, then I'll simply point to Terrell Owens and a young Jason Witten. He had Parcells as a coach, Wade and Garrett.

He's had some solid offensive lines when he started out his for 2 or 3 years. They were never GREAT, but you can't have GREAT all the time. YOU have to be great. He's had 6 years. The guy folds with pressure while guys like Eli, step aside, spots his target and gets the ball out.

Romo has fun playing against the trash of the league. This is where he brain-washes his fans. He takes teams like tampa bay, destroys them. Occasionally, he'll be a great team. Whoopie!! Even a gazelle escapes the super fast cheetah every now and then. Roethlisberger has a solid defense, but it's not like they are shutting teams down like the 85 bears. But when it's time to play the best of the best and win those games that will move you forward in the playoffs towards teh super bowl, he's got ice water in his veins.

Even when Romo played in the Pro Bowl a few years ago with the BEST OFFENSIVE LINE money can buy, he was HORRIBLE. You can root for the guy if you want, but I'm starting to hate the guy as a football player.

LOL. I think I have read it all now.

 

[LOBO7]

Well, for starters... Marino Started for 17 seasons (Moon 17, Fouts 15, Esiason 14, and Kelly 11) while Romo has only been a starter for 6 seasons. Looking at totals is not a fair assessment of statistics. Yet, with all Marino's greatness (which I watched as an avid football fan & agree with ), consider this...

Completion %: Romo 64.5; Marino 59.4
TD %: Romo 5.7; Marino 5.0
Interception %: Romo 2.8; Marino 3.0
Yards per attempt: Romo 8; Marino 7.3
QB Rating: Romo 96.9; Marino 86.4
Sacked %: Romo 5.2; Marino 3.1

Despite being a QB known for being mobile in the pocket, Romo has been sacked (on average) nearly twice as much as Marino, who was known as a purely pocket passer that couldn't move well. Yet, Romo's production is still on par with (or in most cases better than) the great Dan Marino. The difference is that Marino had protection and Romo does not.

Give Romo a solid line & great things will happen.

Nice post Wimbo. Too many facts for the hate Romo crowd.

 

[DWhite Fan]

Looking at totals is fair because in the absence of playoff appearances and successes career numbers and longevity are what a QB has to lean on to be deemed great. At a minimum you have to have one or the other, and often both, and without either a player will be left as a star player for a time who fell short of greatness.

As for the statistical comparison with Marino, remember that his stats also reflect the dropoff over the last 3-4 years of his career as he aged. The same will happen to Romo.

Also, your stats ignores that Marino was in the playoffs 10 times, and got to the Super Bowl once, and maintained success for a hell of a long time - all of which adds to his status as a great QB.

Finally, Romo also passed Staubach in those areas you mentioned. Not sure many Cowboy fans would put Romo in the same Company with Staubach.

That is a fair statement.
I will say this, I believe the Cowboys team that Roger took control of in 1971 was a heck of a lot better (and better coached) that the team Romo took over in 2006. I say that in fairness to Romo.

 

[ufcrules1]

I am saying that if you had to start Kitna or McGee for any substantial time, like a whole season, you would find out just how important Romo is to this team. As to being able to win or lose, that is why the games are played (on any given Sunday) but does not reflect on how important Romo is to this team
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Yes, but you are just pointing out exactly how bad Kitna and McGee are. I think we all know those 2 are terrible QB's. How about if we had a Cutler in here, or Rape-lisburger, or Eli? How would we do then? Are those guys all going to choke bad because of our offensive line? Cutler tears it up with TERRBILE WR's and his line is no better than ours.

 

[Stautner]

I can agree with your post.... and I bet you would throw in Jones too! Would you do Miles, Witten, and 1st and 3rd rounders for Luck? I'm not sure a QB like this comes around very often. He could be an elite guy like Rogers, Brady, Brees, and Peyton.

It would be hard to throw in Witten. He's too valuable as a TE, and I think it's important to have players like him to be an example for younger players to follow. He and Ware are the two players on the team that are unquestioned in terms of work ethic and contribution to the team.

 

[Stautner]

That is a fair statement.
I will say this, I believe the Cowboys team that Roger took control of in 1971 was a heck of a lot better (and better coached) that the team Romo took over in 2006. I say that in fairness to Romo.

This is a fair statement as well.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I am really tired of people saying Romo will not be considered a great QB until he wins a Super Bowl. That is just ignorance. There have only been 28 QB's in the history of the NFL to win a Superbowl, and some of those guys were not so great (Hostetler, Rypien, Dilfer, Brad Johnson). There have also been a lot og great QB's who never won a Super Bowl (Marino, Fouts, Esiason, Kelly, Moon, etc).

This is a team sport, and Romo does not have a lot of talented teammates to help him out right now. Sure, the skill positions on offense are all good enough to win, but without an OL it ain't going to happen. And, the Defense is terrible beyond about 4-5 guys.

Big games are only played against the best opponents. We are losing a lot of those games because our TEAM is not good enough to compete with the opponent. Pinning that soley on Romo is just silly.

This.

 

[Stautner]

I am saying that if you had to start Kitna or McGee for any substantial time, like a whole season, you would find out just how important Romo is to this team. As to being able to win or lose, that is why the games are played (on any given Sunday) but does not reflect on how important Romo is to this team
:starspin

I don't think anyone questions that Romo is our best option among the currently available options - at least no rational fan does. But those who are down on Romo aren't advocating replacing him with McGee or Kitna, they are advocating going out and finding someone new who is better than all of the current options.

 

[Dodger]

Cutler tears it up with TERRBILE WR's and his line is no better than ours.

Tears it up? Really? What has he ever won?

 

[ufcrules1]

It would be hard to throw in Witten. He's too valuable as a TE, and I think it's important to have players like him to be an example for younger players to follow. He and Ware are the two players on the team that are unquestioned in terms of work ethic and contribution to the team.

I'm in the same boat with you.. although if Witten misses one more first down by a yard or less by not fighting for it.. I'm jumping ship.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

You're one clueless guy.

Perhaps. But I like the American tradition of having opinions.

Like Alexander Graham Bell said, "Give me libertines or give me death."

But a reminder to all the Romo lovers here: The post is not about our lousy secondary or lack of a pass rush or the O-line.

It is about a QB who compares with the greats re statistics but also compares to a QB who chokes with the best.