Hunter Leupke and Daryl Johnston

[quickccc]

Leupke can do it all. Pass block, block up in the hole, catch the ball, run with it. He can be a great asset to this team if used properly.

A guy that can do it all .. yet went undrafted ? .. Jack of all trades but master of none ?

Questionable blocking skills and has questionable bad shoulders ..its a reason why Loop went undrafted .... hopes he proved to be John Kuhn 2.0 after all.

 

[nathanlt]

A guy that can do it all .. yet went undrafted ? .. Jack of all trades but master of none ?

Questionable blocking skills and has questionable bad shoulders ..its a reason why Loop went undrafted .... hopes he proved to be John Kuhn 2.0 after all.

Please.... what EVIDENCE do you have that he has questionable blocking skills? Video please.

 

[blueblood70]

A guy that can do it all .. yet went undrafted ? .. Jack of all trades but master of none ?

Questionable blocking skills and has questionable bad shoulders ..its a reason why Loop went undrafted .... hopes he proved to be John Kuhn 2.0 after all.

Why is that fans always use where a player was drafted or undrafted as some kind of precursor to knowing their future when we all know there are a lot more hall of Famers that have come late in the draft or undrafted than there were in the first round if you go back and look at history just because you were overlooked or under the radar doesn't make it your future less bright once you get on a team you can throw all that other stuff away now we get to see what this guy can do or not do but to say because of where he was drafted or undrafted as an automatic knock on the guy is ridiculous

we all know that there are players like Tony Romo and Kurt Warner and Terrell Davis and Tom Brady and many others that were overlooked in the draft and many the statistics are crazy on guys who nearly get undrafted or get late pick like Brock Purdy or something have a better shot than the guys in the first round because they are over drafted and their expectations become ridiculous especially quarterbacks but we all know there are some really good players that have slipped through the cracks.

I'm not saying hunter is going to be any good or is going to make the team or going to have a bright future but you saying because of where he was drafted somehow we should just expect nothing? No I'm not buying that and you need to get off that people around here do that but you guys get guys like Taco Charlton and others that have been drafted in the first round I shouldn't have it pushes the draft down and some guys get pushed out because teams made mistakes earlier in the draft there's only seven rounds nowadays where there used to be 12 or 14.

 

[conner01]

Every Rook has a learning curve
Somewhat up to Dak as he see it, and Biadasz line calls
All in cohesion
Texas coast/ west coast will help,
West coast was designed to offset 92’ Bears D that brought the house every play

Very true
And nothing helps pass protection like quick passes and a run game

 

[conner01]

Please.... what EVIDENCE do you have that he has questionable blocking skills? Video please.

Most of his pre draft scouting reports pointed out his pass protection
But that doesn’t mean he can’t learn, just something he needs to improve
Every player has something he can or should improve

 

[BlindFaith]

Why is that fans always use where a player was drafted or undrafted as some kind of precursor to knowing their future when we all know there are a lot more hall of Famers that have come late in the draft or undrafted than there were in the first round if you go back and look at history just because you were overlooked or under the radar doesn't make it your future less bright once you get on a team you can throw all that other stuff away now we get to see what this guy can do or not do but to say because of where he was drafted or undrafted as an automatic knock on the guy is ridiculous

we all know that there are players like Tony Romo and Kurt Warner and Terrell Davis and Tom Brady and many others that were overlooked in the draft and many the statistics are crazy on guys who nearly get undrafted or get late pick like Brock Purdy or something have a better shot than the guys in the first round because they are over drafted and their expectations become ridiculous especially quarterbacks but we all know there are some really good players that have slipped through the cracks.

I'm not saying hunter is going to be any good or is going to make the team or going to have a bright future but you saying because of where he was drafted somehow we should just expect nothing? No I'm not buying that and you need to get off that people around here do that but you guys get guys like Taco Charlton and others that have been drafted in the first round I shouldn't have it pushes the draft down and some guys get pushed out because teams made mistakes earlier in the draft there's only seven rounds nowadays where there used to be 12 or 14.

Its called statistics and probability.

If you had to bet a million dollars, are you putting your money on a draft pick or UDRFA?

Yes, low round guys and undrafted guys make teams. Some do very well. But statistically speaking, higher round, drafted players pan out more than lower round or undrafted players.

 

[CowboyRoy]

A guy that can do it all .. yet went undrafted ? .. Jack of all trades but master of none ?

Questionable blocking skills and has questionable bad shoulders ..its a reason why Loop went undrafted .... hopes he proved to be John Kuhn 2.0 after all.

The main reason he went undrafted was that the FB position is almost extinct.

 

[quickccc]

The main reason he went undrafted was that the FB position is almost extinct.

I think you could be right about the FB position per NFL 2023 Draft ..and the position being non-existent.

Because I looked back at this recent draft class and unless I'm missing them, I saw none of the top ranked FBs ..even drafted .

The FB position is NFL nowadays is more of an occasional, spot role ... and it also depends upon the coaches, scheme and NFL team ...
And unless that FB is exceptionally combined in all phases -( yes, Blocking comes first) you just don't see many teams daring to carry one, much less utilize
him in all phases.

It's no longer the full time, every down role as in the dayz of Moose Johnson
and there's only a handful of FBs that are counted on to be that occasional spot player - little wonder that these are run-oriented teams

Kyle Juszczyk, Niners
Patrick Ricard, Baltimore
CJ Ham, Vikes
Derek Watt, Pittsburgh
Jakob Johnson Raiders

All of these notable FBs are block first .. they are all not exceptional runners and catchers, but they stand out for their blocking skills,.. supposedly that area is not
Hunter's game ...usually that area of physicality comes natural with the notable FBs, That already says he's not quite John Kuhn

To be along with that.. we await to see if the bad shoulder red flag concerns are behind him.. post-surgery and rehab .

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think you could be right about the FB position per NFL 2023 Draft ..and the position being non-existent.

Because I looked back at this recent draft class and unless I'm missing them, I saw none of the top ranked FBs ..even drafted .

The FB position is NFL nowadays is more of an occasional, spot role ... and it also depends upon the coaches, scheme and NFL team ...
And unless that FB is exceptionally combined in all phases -( yes, Blocking comes first) you just don't see many teams daring to carry one, much less utilize
him in all phases.

It's no longer the full time, every down role as in the dayz of Moose Johnson
and there's only a handful of FBs that are counted on to be that occasional spot player - little wonder that these are run-oriented teams

Kyle Juszczyk, Niners
Patrick Ricard, Baltimore
CJ Ham, Vikes
Derek Watt, Pittsburgh
Jakob Johnson Raiders

All of these notable FBs are block first .. they are all not exceptional runners and catchers, but they stand out for their blocking skills,.. supposedly that area is not
Hunter's game ...usually that area of physicality comes natural with the notable FBs, That already says he's not quite John Kuhn

To be along with that.. we await to see if the bad shoulder red flag concerns are behind him.. post-surgery and rehab .

I havent heard that he isnt a good blocker. The guy is big and athletic so I dont see how he would be bad at it. He played mostly RB in college so he probably wasnt asked to do it much.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think you could be right about the FB position per NFL 2023 Draft ..and the position being non-existent.

Because I looked back at this recent draft class and unless I'm missing them, I saw none of the top ranked FBs ..even drafted .

The FB position is NFL nowadays is more of an occasional, spot role ... and it also depends upon the coaches, scheme and NFL team ...
And unless that FB is exceptionally combined in all phases -( yes, Blocking comes first) you just don't see many teams daring to carry one, much less utilize
him in all phases.

It's no longer the full time, every down role as in the dayz of Moose Johnson
and there's only a handful of FBs that are counted on to be that occasional spot player - little wonder that these are run-oriented teams

Kyle Juszczyk, Niners
Patrick Ricard, Baltimore
CJ Ham, Vikes
Derek Watt, Pittsburgh
Jakob Johnson Raiders

All of these notable FBs are block first .. they are all not exceptional runners and catchers, but they stand out for their blocking skills,.. supposedly that area is not
Hunter's game ...usually that area of physicality comes natural with the notable FBs, That already says he's not quite John Kuhn

To be along with that.. we await to see if the bad shoulder red flag concerns are behind him.. post-surgery and rehab .

This was his scouting report about his blocking:

He is a gritty, hard-nosed blocker who offers the discipline and power to successfully pick off and seal gaps for his ball carriers from backfield alignments and as a wing.

So I think the lack of blocking ability is misinformation that someone started on here after the draft and it somehow has become a talking a point. It makes little sense that a guy like that cant block well.

 

[blueblood70]

Its called statistics and probability.

If you had to bet a million dollars, are you putting your money on a draft pick or UDRFA?

Yes, low round guys and undrafted guys make teams. Some do very well. But statistically speaking, higher round, drafted players pan out more than lower round or undrafted players.

Just stop I'm over your RB/FB post umm ok no faith move it along.. a TON OF 1st round busts, go check..,many 2nd so on so forth.

 

[quickccc]

This was his scouting report about his blocking:

He is a gritty, hard-nosed blocker who offers the discipline and power to successfully pick off and seal gaps for his ball carriers from backfield alignments and as a wing.

So I think the lack of blocking ability is misinformation that someone started on here after the draft and it somehow has become a talking a point. It makes little sense that a guy like that cant block well.

Depends upon where we are hearing it from ...

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...pke-cowboys-newest-attempt-resurrect-fullback

Scouting reports on Luepke glow with his athletic potential and abilities as a runner and receiver out of the backfield. Some even see him lining up as a small tight end in certain packages. The biggest concern is his consistency as a lead blocker, but that may not be as big a factor in the modern NFL as in the past.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Depends upon where we are hearing it from ...

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...pke-cowboys-newest-attempt-resurrect-fullback

Scouting reports on Luepke glow with his athletic potential and abilities as a runner and receiver out of the backfield. Some even see him lining up as a small tight end in certain packages. The biggest concern is his consistency as a lead blocker, but that may not be as big a factor in the modern NFL as in the past.

True, but that critique sounds more like its a concern because he wasnt asked to do it much in college. He got the ball most of the time.

 

[Jarv]

I think you could be right about the FB position per NFL 2023 Draft ..and the position being non-existent.

Because I looked back at this recent draft class and unless I'm missing them, I saw none of the top ranked FBs ..even drafted .

The FB position is NFL nowadays is more of an occasional, spot role ... and it also depends upon the coaches, scheme and NFL team ...
And unless that FB is exceptionally combined in all phases -( yes, Blocking comes first) you just don't see many teams daring to carry one, much less utilize
him in all phases.

It's no longer the full time, every down role as in the dayz of Moose Johnson
and there's only a handful of FBs that are counted on to be that occasional spot player - little wonder that these are run-oriented teams

Kyle Juszczyk, Niners
Patrick Ricard, Baltimore
CJ Ham, Vikes
Derek Watt, Pittsburgh
Jakob Johnson Raiders

All of these notable FBs are block first .. they are all not exceptional runners and catchers, but they stand out for their blocking skills,.. supposedly that area is not
Hunter's game ...usually that area of physicality comes natural with the notable FBs, That already says he's not quite John Kuhn

To be along with that.. we await to see if the bad shoulder red flag concerns are behind him.. post-surgery and rehab .

Wow, this is the first I'm hearing about bad shoulders. Hope it gets straightened out, I liked what little I saw of him in the highlight reels.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Some comes down to if your TB prefers a lead blocker. Emmitt did. But they ran primarily a man blocking scheme.

Todays running game is more about zone schemes and allowing the RB to find the lane or cut it back side. A lead blocker becomes less useful in that scheme.

Thats why teams go with 2 TEs alot now. Bigger blockers that can help stretch both front side and back side plays.

With all that being said, I do like what Hunter can bring. But he'll really have to bring it to make the team. There is an UDFA they brought in at TE that they seem to really like and can move. So we'll see.

great breakdown off the diferenc ein blocking with this team, in the zone blocking scheme i could see Hunter being really good at sealing an edge from the backfield going to be very interesting seeing what they want him to do. If he shows the ability to move the ball in the NFL they have a weapon in thier hands for sure.