Hypothetical: Roy Williams WR for #18?

[Idgit]

Just looking over an NFLDraftCountdown draft that has us taking S. Holmes in round one, and mentions in the Detroit blurb what a disappointment the last 3 WRs have been in Detroit. I think Roy is a hell of a player. Has he met expectations so far? Or has he depreciated enough to make the 18 sound interesting?

Remember, Detroit has a new coach and a new system coming in, and are still living down taking two WRs and a slow TE with their last 3 1st round picks.

Thoughts? Other interesting current players we might get with the 18? Sorry, Summerisfunner, Bledsoe's already on our roster, so we can't trade the 18 for him. Nors, if you mention Ty Law, I'll explode. Anyone else? LBs, free safeties?

 

[Rush 2112]

Why would they trade the only one who has looked good?

 

[Alexander]

Why would they trade the only one who has looked good?

Because he is a former Texas Longhorn, some people are very very bored and have an overactive imagination.

 

[Idgit]

Because he is a former Texas Longhorn, some people are very very bored and have an overactive imagination.

Except I'm not a Longhorn fan. Not particularly bored, either. And imaginination's a bad thing, in your book? It shows in your posting style.

Point I was making is young players at positions of need might be a better route to go for a team that expects to be competitive. Roy Williams was drafted, what, #6? Again: has the met/exceeded potential? Because by now he's half-way through his original deal, and Detroit is going to have to make a decision on him eventually. Has he depreciated? If so, how much?

And I think you might be underestimating the value of two 1s to a team starting over at head coach and QB.

 

[Alexander]

Except I'm not a Longhorn fan. Not particularly bored, either. And imaginination's a bad thing, in your book? It shows in your posting style.

Point I was making is young players at positions of need might be a better route to go for a team that expects to be competitive. Roy Williams was drafted, what, #6? Again: has the met/exceeded potential? Because by now he's half-way through his original deal, and Detroit is going to have to make a decision on him eventually. Has he depreciated? If so, how much?

And I think you might be underestimating the value of two 1s to a team starting over at head coach and QB.

So how often do you see the #6 choice in the draft get shipped off unless something is very wrong with them? Roy Williams is not going anywhere. Now Charles Rogers is a different story.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'd do it in a heartbeat, but I don't think the Lions would. IIRC we had Williams as at least a top-5 player the year he was drafted -- maybe higher.

 

[jterrell]

Roy Williams is not available for trade. He's their best offensive player and will help whomever they sign or draft at QB.


Charles Rogers is but who wants him.
Mike Williams they are forced to try and develop.


I might pick up Charles Rogers as a free agent for a looksie.

 

[silver]

I might pick up Charles Rogers as a free agent for a looksie.

Mee too. He could turn out to be the next Jimmy Smith or Mike Sherrard

 

[Derinyar]

Is Matt Millen still in charge there? If he is thats the only reason that the Lions might be dumb enough to trade WR Roy Williams. I personally think Millen is probably one of the worst GM's in the history of football.

 

[Idgit]

So how often do you see the #6 choice in the draft get shipped off unless something is very wrong with them? Roy Williams is not going anywhere. Now Charles Rogers is a different story.

That's really the question I'm asking: is Roy Williams still worth the slot he was picked at?

You don't often see players taken that high traded because of their contracts, and because of the fact that there's still a lot of uncertainty about upside so early in a career. Closest comparison I can come up with is the Commanders getting L Coles as a RFA for the 13. The comparison of Coles to Williams is pretty fair, I would say. Of course, 13 is a better pick than 18, but Coles was a hell of a player at that point, and I think most people thought the Jets made out in the trade.

The scenario only makes sense if Det wants to take another QB high and doesn't want or expect Cutler to be there, but I don't think it's all that much of a stretch.

Nobody is obviously going to trade a 1 for Charles Rogers.

 

[conner01]

i think it's a great idea, and then we could trade shanlee and our 2nd rnd pick for tom brady. then we could trade jones and our 3rd, maybe even a 4th for hutchinson,then larry allen,glover, and our 5th for walter jones. yep, this will work guys.

 

[Idgit]

i think it's a great idea, and then we could trade shanlee and our 2nd rnd pick for tom brady. then we could trade jones and our 3rd, maybe even a 4th for hutchinson,then larry allen,glover, and our 5th for walter jones. yep, this will work guys.

Ok. I take it the consensus on the board is that Roy Williams is worth more now than he was when he came into the league. Fair enough.

Conner, I think the other trades you're suggesting are a bit unlikely.

 

[Idgit]

Mee too. He could turn out to be the next Jimmy Smith or Mike Sherrard

Except in the case of injury, it's pretty rare to see a first round bust at WR turn into a player for a second team, isn't it? I'm trying to think of an example, but all I come up with are the Florida players who never amounted to anything.

 

[Avery]

I would take RW for #18 in a hearbeat. We'd be crazy not to.

Not going to happen though.

 

[Bcburns]

i think it's a great idea, and then we could trade shanlee and our 2nd rnd pick for tom brady. then we could trade jones and our 3rd, maybe even a 4th for hutchinson,then larry allen,glover, and our 5th for walter jones. yep, this will work guys.

I've thought about a topic like this. Both Detriot and Arizona have at least 2 young, potentially top-flight receivers.
Detriot: Charles Rodgers, Roy Williams, and Mike Williams
Arizona: Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald

I think Roy Williams and Larry Fitzgerald are probably not for sale. But what about these other guys and what would it take to get them?

 

[CrazyCowboy]

No way would Detriot do that ......even as dumb as they are.

 

[Wheat]

maybe you can trade Henson for Roy Williams and their 1st round pick.

 

[JPM]

maybe you can trade Henson for Roy Williams and their 1st round pick.

Great idea !! They do need a QB.

 

[Qwickdraw]

I'd give the #18 pick for Williams so fast your head would spin...
IMO, he is the next "greatest WR to play the game" if he is on the right team or in the right system.

but it'll never happen.

Charles Rogers is a possible trade option. But not for a first.

 

[speedkilz88]

I don't know what kind of numbers Roy put up, but he looked like a big time receiver with no qb in Detroit's Thanksgiving game.