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Let's say Julius Jones doesn't get an offer that he likes enough to leave. If he were to go to Jerry and say he wanted to stay and be Barber's backup, would you be okay with it? Why or why not?
 

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Nope. We need some new blood and new competition. JJ had his shot(s).
 

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No.

It would not be good for team chemistry in my opinion. This draft has so many guys that can come in and play a role and it would cost less in the long run.
 

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Hostile;1985787 said:
Let's say Julius Jones doesn't get an offer that he likes enough to leave. If he were to go to Jerry and say he wanted to stay and be Barber's backup, would you be okay with it? Why or why not?

I'll be honest.

We have 2 open positions at RB. You can either fill both with rookies which I'm not real comfortable with or you can fill 1 with a vet and 1 with a rookie. Why throw money at an aging vet from another system is you can have Jones back for the right deal and still be able to draft a RB?

In the right situation with no promises and for the right price I would prefer to have Jones back and draft a RB then any of the other options avaliable.
 

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Julius needs 20 carries in a game to be effective and he will just not get that here.

We need a guy who can do more with less.

Sorry Julius but your out.
 

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HomeOfLegends;1985807 said:
I'll be honest.

We have 2 open positions at RB. You can either fill both with rookies which I'm not real comfortable with or you can fill 1 with a vet and 1 with a rookie. Why throw money at an aging vet from another system is you can have Jones back for the right deal and still be able to draft a RB?

In the right situation with no promises and for the right price I would prefer to have Jones back and draft a RB then any of the other options avaliable.
I feel the same way.
 

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If Jones was willing to come in at a low cost as a backup then fine. I don't think this will happen I think Jones moves on.
 

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Hostile;1985787 said:
Let's say Julius Jones doesn't get an offer that he likes enough to leave. If he were to go to Jerry and say he wanted to stay and be Barber's backup, would you be okay with it? Why or why not?

It all comes down to that "Show me something" rule that Parcells installed when he was hired as the Cowboys head coach.

Julius showed some flashes his rookie year, but after that, he has been no more than a backup RB in a starting role.

Julius's tenure with the Cowboys has run its course. The Cowboys will be drafting Marion's partner in April.
 

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I like the fact that he knows the system and he's good at blitz pickup but I think it may be time to move on. If we could get Felix and he wore #21 that would help my son's jersey collection.:D
 

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HomeOfLegends;1985807 said:
I'll be honest.

We have 2 open positions at RB. You can either fill both with rookies which I'm not real comfortable with or you can fill 1 with a vet and 1 with a rookie. Why throw money at an aging vet from another system is you can have Jones back for the right deal and still be able to draft a RB?

In the right situation with no promises and for the right price I would prefer to have Jones back and draft a RB then any of the other options avaliable.


That would be the logical way to go about things. But Julius and his agent are looking for a suitor who will hand Julius the starting job. That is no longer the case here in Dallas.

Some team will feel that all Julius needs is a change of venue to be a successful RB. And Julius will get paid. He won't get Michael Turner money, but he will make more than his second round status paid him.
 

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Hostile;1985787 said:
Let's say Julius Jones doesn't get an offer that he likes enough to leave. If he were to go to Jerry and say he wanted to stay and be Barber's backup, would you be okay with it? Why or why not?

I think he has to much pride to return to the Cowboys. The only way I see that happening is if he doesn't get an offer anywhere else.
 

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HomeOfLegends;1985807 said:
We have 2 open positions at RB. You can either fill both with rookies which I'm not real comfortable with or you can fill 1 with a vet and 1 with a rookie. Why throw money at an aging vet from another system is you can have Jones back for the right deal and still be able to draft a RB?

I'm guessing you are referring to Dunn. First off, Dunn was a pretty good running back. I didn't get to see him play at all last season so he may have went off the cliff like many RBs do just after 30.

If his play has in fact dropped off in that way, then Jones is a better option. Otherwise, Dunn would be a great chance of pace back. A lot better than Jones.

I'm not completely against two rookies though. If one of them is one of the better prospects in the draft and the other is something picked up late on day two of the draft.
 

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nyc;1985852 said:
I think he has to much pride to return to the Cowboys. The only way I see that happening is if he doesn't get an offer anywhere else.

I think this may be a real problem.

And would JJ be prepared to be the 3rd RB? Because that's a distinct possibility if we draft a RB this year.

It one thing to swallow one's pride and go from the starting RB to the complementary back. But it's another thing to go from the starting RB to the 3rd string RB.

I just don't think this would work with respect to team chemistry.
 

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Woods;1985863 said:
I think this may be a real problem.

And would JJ be prepared to be the 3rd RB? Because that's a distinct possibility if we draft a RB this year.

It one thing to swallow one's pride and go from the starting RB to the complementary back. But it's another thing to go from the starting RB to the 3rd string RB.

I just don't think this would work with respect to team chemistry.

I agree, but if he wants an NFL paycheck and no other teams give him an offer. He would have no choice but be relegated to a 3rd RB.

If the Cowboys do draft one of the better running backs and still offer Jones a contract. It will be for league minimum. Without question, he would take that contract elsewhere before he would accept it from the Cowboys.
 

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I don't think it's a situation with much chance of happening.

I'll echo what others have said about Jones' ego and damaged pride. It would be tough to swallow coming back tail-between-legs looking for a job.

And I also think there's a measure of bad blood between Julius Jones and the team, meaning both sides want to move on.

And I think it would do more harm than good considering that it could adversely affect the team's draft strategy causing them to pass on one of the quality running backs available.
 

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I've been of the opinion, for a long time, that the Cowboys would be well served to attempt to add a modern day Preston Pearson. That's a tall order, because Pearson might have been the best third down back to play the game.

This is a long winded way of saying that I'm intrigued by the thought of adding Warrick Dunn. Obviously, Dunn would be, very much, a short term answer to that Pearson role. But Dunn still can do some interesting things in the passing game.

Julius Jones, I think, still can be a decent NFL running back. I don't dismiss the idea of his value as a "counterpunch" backup to Barber. But Jones has been a disappointment, to me, in his contributions to the passing game (which might be more a fault of scheme than of the player). Jones would be a solid backup, but I like the idea of getting that player in the draft. I'm still not completely sold on the notion that Barber, given his running style and past workload, is a long term 20-30 carries a game guy. I think the Cowboys would do well to have another option, the younger the better.

Because I would love to see Dallas pick up a third down back who could be a dangerous threat as a receiver, I probaby would prefer to see them move past the Jones era.

It's not likely Jones will be an option, in any case. If he is, the Cowboys certainly would be better off with him than with some of the other players available, so the idea shouldn't be dismissed.

But wouldn't it be nice to have a number three back who offers something different? Again, a Preston Pearson...
 

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stasheroo;1985875 said:
And I also think there's a measure of bad blood between Julius Jones and the team, meaning both sides want to move on.

The Cowboys have been nothing but respectful to Jones. Hell, no way he should have been the starting RB last year, yet he was until they entered the playoffs. The dished him up as a starting RB until the season was over helping him in finding a new job.

I disagree with this. I think it is true that both him and the team want to move on.
 

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IMO, the only way he stays is if he wants to be Barber's back up's back up.
 

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nyc;1985882 said:
The Cowboys have been nothing but respectful to Jones. Hell, no way he should have been the starting RB last year, yet he was until they entered the playoffs. The dished him up as a starting RB until the season was over helping him in finding a new job.

I disagree with this. I think it is true that both him and the team want to move on.

Don't misunderstand, I don't think the Cowboys have been anything but respectful to Jones, but I remember an incident late in the season where Jones threw a tantrum or something similar.

I think it's obvious that neither side has any probleem with a change of scenery.
 
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