Hypothetical: What's the final margin of victory (or defeat) if (a) McCaffrey played

[atlantacowboy]

No idea but their offense runs through him and it would have been a much different game.

 

[nightrain]

Carolina would have had a more run focused game plan and lost by 20.

 

[TexasHillbilly]

The world may never know. Just like "how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?"

 

[zrinkill]

If all their hurt guys and all our hurt guys where playing , and we did not let up in the 4th quarter ....... The ending would have been even worse for them.

 

[bigdnlaca]

Probably would be the same. Because mcc didn’t play, Hubbard and Moore got the stats. If mcc did play, Moore and Hubbard would have gotten less yards because mcc would have been the featured player.

Same goes for DLaw although I don’t think Darnold would have ran for that many yards.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Not sure. Are Collins, Dlaw and Wilson back as well?

Asking for a friend.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

but no Tank... (b) if Tank played, but no McCaffrey... and (c) if both played.

I'll venture a guess first, I suppose...

With McCaffrey, but no Tank:
I'll say we win by 1, but it's really a matter of who would have the ball last.

With Tank, but no McCaffrey:
Think it's plausible one of those CAR TDs end up a FG instead, so to my mind, the margin is 12.

With both:
Think they both represent similar values to their side of the ball, so I'll stick with the actual margin, 8.

Interested in others' perspectives (self-evidently).

well, I don't want to hear about hypotheticals and if and thens...we had boat load of injuries last year and nobody cried for us....

and what if we had Neal, DLaw, Collins and Joseph? I bet the margin of victory would have been larger.

 

[_sturt_]

If mcc did play, Moore and Hubbard would have gotten less yards because mcc would have been the featured player.

Appreciate the thinking that the net difference wouldn't have been that much to tilt the score.

I tend to agree, again, with Helman and Eatman that both players would have affected the end product (they didn't put numbers to it, I wish they had), and that by virtue of him being an elite skill player who plays offense, the net difference would lean toward a closer game had both been on the field.

 

[Doomsday101]

Have no clue what the margin would have been then again no one cried over Cowboys injuries and I sure as hell do not care about other teams injuries.

 

[_sturt_]

I don't want to hear about hypotheticals

Here's an idea... then scroll on by. I'm not even meaning to be smart aleck, but I don't know how else to say it... it's not as-if any mere mortal should perceive him/herself to have policing powers over what people discuss within the bounds of the forum rules.

About 90-something percent of posts so far seem to totally miss that the hypothetical is less about the game itself, and more about analyzing the net point value that the best defensive player for us represents in comparison to the best offensive player for them.

 

[Jarntt]

 

[MWH1967]

117-3 Panthers?

 

[blueblood70]

but no Tank... (b) if Tank played, but no McCaffrey... and (c) if both played.

I'll venture a guess first, I suppose...

With McCaffrey, but no Tank:
I'll say we win by 1, but it's really a matter of who would have the ball last.

With Tank, but no McCaffrey:
Think it's plausible one of those CAR TDs end up a FG instead, so to my mind, the margin is 12.

With both:
Think they both represent similar values to their side of the ball, so I'll stick with the actual margin, 8.

Interested in others' perspectives (self-evidently).

SAME

those final 2 tds wouldn't have happened as the game may have been tighter but we still win by the same margin..

btw as a runner last two seasons while upright is under 4YPC hes a bigger threat at WR so maybe he makes a difference but not in the final score IMO, we still win..

theta 3rd qtr does Cmac play defense?? OL? did you watch they were up 14-13 but then we opened up a huge can of whoop but and couldn't be stopped in all phases..

what IF want to paly that game,

WHAT IF

we had Collins, Gallup, healthier Cooper, Gallimore, tank, neal ,Joseph, hill, and anae..did I miss anyone? oh and finish the game with Diggs not resting??

 

[blueblood70]

but no Tank... (b) if Tank played, but no McCaffrey... and (c) if both played.

I'll venture a guess first, I suppose...

With McCaffrey, but no Tank:
I'll say we win by 1, but it's really a matter of who would have the ball last.

With Tank, but no McCaffrey:
Think it's plausible one of those CAR TDs end up a FG instead, so to my mind, the margin is 12.

With both:
Think they both represent similar values to their side of the ball, so I'll stick with the actual margin, 8.

Interested in others' perspectives (self-evidently).

WHAT IF

we had Collins, Gallup, healthier Cooper, Gallimore, tank, neal ,Joseph, hill, and anae..did I miss anyone? oh and finish the game with Diggs not resting??

 

[_sturt_]

About 90-something percent of posts so far seem to totally miss that the hypothetical is less about the game itself, and more about analyzing the net point value that the best defensive player for us represents in comparison to the best offensive player for them.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Here's an idea... then scroll on by. I'm not even meaning to be smart aleck, but I don't know how else to say it... it's not as-if any mere mortal should perceive him/herself to have policing powers over what people discuss within the bounds of the forum rules.

About 90-something percent of posts so far seem to totally miss that the hypothetical is less about the game itself, and more about analyzing the net point value that the best defensive player for us represents in comparison to the best offensive player for them.

someone p!ss in your coffee this morning.....

 

[_sturt_]

I don't know how else to say it... it's not as-if any mere mortal should perceive him/herself to have policing powers over what people discuss within the bounds of the forum rules.

 

[Qcard]

Absolutely.

But no one is wrong to request just a little maturity, and for those with opinions to post their opinions in threads where their opinions are actually relevant.

There is something to be said for self-policing, and discernment, and responding in this thread to the questions actually asked, not the question you want to answer.

Indeed, fortunately, there is no fee for posting new threads, making it possible for anyone to post whatever opinion they so desire as long as it conforms to board rules.

And by the way... there's no refuting this topic to be an absolutely legit topic to address... in fact, it was the topic on The Break at about 27:00 of yesterday's podcast. Here's what was said...



Of course, I asked a more specific question that effectively was intended to quantify the degree to which two specific players' (one on each side) absence affected the game. But it seems these guys probably would have answered the OP questions about the same as I did, based on their comments.

Oh I see your hypothetical was a maturity test!!

Thank you for the lesson

 

[_sturt_]

I see your hypothetical was a maturity test

Yes, it did turn out that way, didn't it.

 

[HoplessCowboysFan36]

but no Tank... (b) if Tank played, but no McCaffrey... and (c) if both played.

I'll venture a guess first, I suppose...

With McCaffrey, but no Tank:
I'll say we win by 1, but it's really a matter of who would have the ball last.

With Tank, but no McCaffrey:
Think it's plausible one of those CAR TDs end up a FG instead, so to my mind, the margin is 12.

With both:
Think they both represent similar values to their side of the ball, so I'll stick with the actual margin, 8.

Interested in others' perspectives (self-evidently).

The game was a blow out. We took our foot completely off the gas tbe whole 4th quarter.