I believe the team has 3 targets at 19

[Cowboyny]

It appears the team views their top 3 needs as WR, LB, OL based on their pre-draft visits. Barring anything unexpected, I believe they have 3 targets at pick #19, based on order

1) Calvin Ridley WR
2) Leighton Vander Esch LB
3) Will Hernandez G

 

[jujoboys]

It appears the team views their top 3 needs as WR, LB, OL based on their pre-draft visits. Barring anything unexpected, I believe they have 3 targets at pick #19, based on order

1) Calvin Ridley WR
2) Leighton Vander Esch LB
3) Will Hernandez G

Interested to know how you came to this conclusion. Why did you leave DT off the list? How did you narrow it down to those 3 players based on the fact the Cowboys have had 13 players visit the Star that could potentially go in the 1st round?

Players that came in for visits or had private workouts that could go in the 1st Round:

WR = Ridley, Moore, Sutton (3)
DT = Vea, Payne, Bryan (3)
OG = Daniels, Hernandez (2)
OT = McGlinchey, Williams (2)
DE = Landry (1)
LB = Vander Esch, Evans (2)

To me, drafting LVE and Hernandez probably goes against the theory of drafting the best player available. It seems more like desperation and drafting for need. DE, OT, and WR are far more valuable commodities than OG and LB. The draft shouldn't always be about filling your NEEDS. You should always try to draft the best player on your board, especially in the earlier rounds. If you have Harold Landry rated as the #11 propsect in the draft and LVE rated as the #25 prosepct in the draft then take LVE because you see LB as a bigger need then you are making a mistake. Stay true to your board. Now if you have similar ratings on the players listed then you can add need to the equation.

 

[gimmesix]

To me, drafting LVE and Hernandez probably goes against the theory of drafting the best player available. It seems more like desperation and drafting for need. DE, OT, and WR are far more valuable commodities than OG and LB. The draft shouldn't always be about filling your NEEDS. You should always try to draft the best player on your board, especially in the earlier rounds. If you have Harold Landry rated as the #11 propsect in the draft and LVE rated as the #25 prosepct in the draft then take LVE because you see LB as a bigger need then you are making a mistake. Stay true to your board. Now if you have similar ratings on the players listed then you can add need to the equation.

It depends on where they have the players rated. I remember all the complaining when we took Travis Frederick near the end of the first round and fans thought he was a second- or third-round pick. Dallas had him rated around where it took him and turned out to be right. (Well, actually, the Cowboys were wrong because he should have been rated higher.)

 

[Miller]

I've seen a few mocks lately with Ridley going higher. He may be moving up some boards depending on how the top plays out. I think Sutton or Moore are legit targets though at the spot. I think LVE at LB is in their sights but I wouldn't be surprised if they rated DT higher if one falls. If we went O-line I wouldn't be peeved...its actually picks in the 1st we've hit on. Plus this will be the year of Zeke where we ride him as much as possible.

 

[Cowboyny]

Interested to know how you came to this conclusion. Why did you leave DT off the list? How did you narrow it down to those 3 players based on the fact the Cowboys have had 13 players visit the Star that could potentially go in the 1st round?

Players that came in for visits or had private workouts that could go in the 1st Round:

WR = Ridley, Moore, Sutton (3)
DT = Vea, Payne, Bryan (3)
OG = Daniels, Hernandez (2)
OT = McGlinchey, Williams (2)
DE = Landry (1)
LB = Vander Esch, Evans (2)

To me, drafting LVE and Hernandez probably goes against the theory of drafting the best player available. It seems more like desperation and drafting for need. DE, OT, and WR are far more valuable commodities than OG and LB. The draft shouldn't always be about filling your NEEDS. You should always try to draft the best player on your board, especially in the earlier rounds. If you have Harold Landry rated as the #11 propsect in the draft and LVE rated as the #25 prosepct in the draft then take LVE because you see LB as a bigger need then you are making a mistake. Stay true to your board. Now if you have similar ratings on the players listed then you can add need to the equation.

Don't believe DT is in play. Vea won't be available, just don't see either Payne or Bryan being the pick. Outside of Shepherd, the team hasn't held a private workout with any of the DT's.

 

[Cowboyny]

I've seen a few mocks lately with Ridley going higher. He may be moving up some boards depending on how the top plays out. I think Sutton or Moore are legit targets though at the spot. I think LVE at LB is in their sights but I wouldn't be surprised if they rated DT higher if one falls. If we went O-line I wouldn't be peeved...its actually picks in the 1st we've hit on. Plus this will be the year of Zeke where we ride him as much as possible.

Moore was interviewed at the combine, had a private workout and was a 30 visit. He could very well he higher than all receivers.

 

[beware_d-ware]

LVE or Sutton Is my bet.

 

[Sydla]

And I believe my reaction that night when one of those three is selected at 19 will be this.............

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[northerncowboynation]

And I believe my reaction that night when one of those three is selected at 19 will be this.............

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Ok, syd! Which selection won't make you go ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz? Inquiring minds wanna know

 

[northerncowboynation]

Moore was interviewed at the combine, had a private workout and was a 30 visit. He could very well he higher than all receivers.

said it a few times, I'd be good with Moore in a trade down plus a 3'rd rounder. Or a trade up in the second round. First option preferred

 

[jujoboys]

Don't believe DT is in play. Vea won't be available, just don't see either Payne or Bryan being the pick. Outside of Shepherd, the team hasn't held a private workout with any of the DT's.

It doesn't matter what you believe. Dallas had Payne and Bryan visit for a reason. They may have a high grade on those 2 guys. Payne showed flashes in the National Championship game. Dallas may think one of them is the next Warren Sapp. None of us know how Dallas has these guys rated on their board and what position they prefer to draft in the 1st round.

 

[tm1119]

Don't believe DT is in play. Vea won't be available, just don't see either Payne or Bryan being the pick. Outside of Shepherd, the team hasn't held a private workout with any of the DT's.

No visit with Hernandez, yet you have him on your list of top 3 targets...
I think Payne is 100% on the short list of possibilities. Bryan probably not far off that list...hell, who knows they could love Bryan for all we know and he’ll be the pick. The truth is none of know, and that seems to be more true this year than ever.

 

[Sydla]

Ok, syd! Which selection won't make you go ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz? Inquiring minds wanna know

Let's note that I do realize it's quite possible those three will be the best names left at 19 on the board. In that case, I'd prefer a trade down if possible. So it is definitely possible the Cowboys may have little choice but to take one of those three. But being forced to take on of them doesn't make them any less boring picks to me.

Now if you want to talk names that I would like to see taken that might be there at 19 before those three? In no particular order............. Vea, Landry, Evans, Payne, Moore for starters. Hernandez isnt even the OL I'd take at 19, I'd rather have Wynn or Williams over Hernandez. I'd also take McGlinchey at 19 and move Collins to LG before I would take Hernandez.

Vea is self explanatory. I think this team still has an average pass rush and Landry has a skill set no one, including Lawrence, has. I want a pure thumper at MLB, that's more Evans than Vander Esch. I like Payne at the 1 Tech. Moore might be the best WR in what I think is a WR group that has no real stars.

Of the three, I think I'd be happiest with Ridley. I think an OG is a waste of value. I think Vander Esch has risks and I am not sure he's the type of LB we need.

 

[jujoboys]

It depends on where they have the players rated. I remember all the complaining when we took Travis Frederick near the end of the first round and fans thought he was a second- or third-round pick. Dallas had him rated around where it took him and turned out to be right. (Well, actually, the Cowboys were wrong because he should have been rated higher.)

The media fueled the fan reaction on Fredericks. I remember Dallas getting roasted by the Mel Kipers and Todd McShays of the world when they took that pick. I forgive fans for complaining because 99.9999% of us fans don't really have the time or knowledge to scout NFL talent. We like to look at the draft boards on the internet and watch a few youtube videos and then act like we know what we are talking about when it comes to drafting talent. Fans don't like to see positions like center taken in the 1st round because it is not sexy. However, the move turned out great for us.

 

[jujoboys]

No visit with Hernandez, yet you have him on your list of top 3 targets...
I think Payne is 100% on the short list of possibilities. Bryan probably not far off that list...hell, who knows they could love Bryan for all we know and he’ll be the pick. The truth is none of know, and that seems to be more true this year than ever.

Hernandez did not visit Dallas as one of the 30 draft visits. However, Dallas did meet with him and conduct a private work out with him so I assume he is on their radar. That being said, I would kind of be surprised if they went OLine in the 1st round. I tink OLine will be addressed in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

[DFWJC]

I've seen a few mocks lately with Ridley going higher. He may be moving up some boards depending on how the top plays out. I think Sutton or Moore are legit targets though at the spot. I think LVE at LB is in their sights but I wouldn't be surprised if they rated DT higher if one falls. If we went O-line I wouldn't be peeved...its actually picks in the 1st we've hit on. Plus this will be the year of Zeke where we ride him as much as possible.

yeah, about 2/3 of the mocks have Ridley going before us. When he does make it to 19, they have us taking him most of the time. There are a few (<5%) that have us taking a different WR even when Ridley is available....usually in a CBS mock.

Here's how it stacks up with 120 mocks
17 14% Payne
19 16% Ridley
15 13% Moore
13 11% Sutton
9 8% Vander Ech
9 8% Evans
8 7% Hurst
4 3% Vea
4 3% Bryan
3 3% Kirk
2 2% Roq Smith
2 2% James
2 2% Washington
3 3% Hernandez
1 1% Williams
1 1% Key
2 2% McGlinchey
1 1% Hughes
1 1% Goedert
1 1% Miller
1 1% Hurst
1 1% B Price
1 1% Davenport
0 0% Wynn
0 0% Jackson
0 0% Phillips
0 0% C Davis
120

 

[Miller]

yeah, about 2/3 of the mocks have Ridley going before us. When he does make it to 19, they have us taking him most of the time. There are a few (<5%) that have us taking a different WR even when Ridley is available....usually in a CBS mock.

Here's how it stacks up with 120 mocks
17 14% Payne
19 16% Ridley
15 13% Moore
13 11% Sutton
9 8% Vander Ech
9 8% Evans
8 7% Hurst
4 3% Vea
4 3% Bryan
3 3% Kirk
2 2% Roq Smith
2 2% James
2 2% Washington
3 3% Hernandez
1 1% Williams
1 1% Key
2 2% McGlinchey
1 1% Hughes
1 1% Goedert
1 1% Miller
1 1% Hurst
1 1% B Price
1 1% Davenport
0 0% Wynn
0 0% Jackson
0 0% Phillips
0 0% C Davis
120

Thanks for the hard work and breakdown DFWJC!!!

 

[ConceptCoop]

It appears the team views their top 3 needs as WR, LB, OL based on their pre-draft visits. Barring anything unexpected, I believe they have 3 targets at pick #19, based on order

1) Calvin Ridley WR
2) Leighton Vander Esch LB
3) Will Hernandez G

Support your thesis. They visited other WRs, RBs, and OL as well.

 

[bodi]

Evans
Sutton

LVE would due if his Med checks out

 

[cowboyec]

I think its one of these 4.
•Calvin Ridley,WR-Alabama
•Courtland Sutton,WR-Smu
•Rashaan Evans,LB-Alabama
•James Daniels,C/OG-Iowa

It sure does feel like Sutton...but Im not ready to give up seeing Ridley as a Cowboy.