I believe Tyson Thompson should get his chance

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Hostile;1499092 said:
My name isn't Albert Merriweather or Brandon Haynesworth.

Intentional faux pas.

took me a second to get it lol, Way to knock the wind out of my sails then.
 

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Yeagermeister;1499084 said:
I was watching the videos from a Philly game from two yrs ago and TT had at least 3 tds if he either juked or ran over the kicker.

Good Facts:bow:
 

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RealCowboyfan;1499044 said:
How about the rest of you fans....

First of all the guy has speed and if he adds some shift to his straight ahead speed, I believe we have a starter in Dallas...
He'll have his chance. It's a new coaching staff for the most part. He just needs to start showing something early and often.

Besides the shiftiness factor (He needs that extra shift that you mention) and the competition for kick returning duties that others have mentioned, there is a new playbook to learn. Based on a few comments that Parcells made a while ago, it could be that learning the new playbook will be a challenge for the young man.
 

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I am a fan of Thomspon, but if Coleman or Battle beat him out for the 3rd spot, then I have no problems with watching him go. I am a fan of the team more so than fans of individual players.
 
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I think Tyson Thompson reminds me of A-Train...Remember now, Tyson Thompson DOES have good size too...But he can develop into a nice back. I just don't think that he will have a chance here...We have got to be the deepest team in the league and probably have two STARTING RB's on our team already...I think that TT can catch on with another team and could end up doing like Chester Taylor....it's possible...
 

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When BP put in TT for a few drives in that philly game 2 years ago when he was a rook, he looked pretty good despite just being a straightahead runner. He was gashing them. Never really got to see him take any snaps at RB last year except in preseason I think which I totally have forgotten, but if he's developing he can turn into a good back. We'll beable to see this preseason I suppose.
 

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Yeagermeister;1499053 said:
TT is Hambrick with more speed. I'll be surprised if he makes the team.


Yeah Yeags, but Hambrick with more speed might have been a pretty decent RB. If he can come back with no loss of explosion or strength, I think he beats out anybody else. You just can't underestimate the experience factor for a 3rd RB IMO. He's not your starter or even your relief back so it's not as if he's going to get many touches to begin with. He's not a difference maker, per say, unless he makes a mistake. Then, he's a difference maker you don't want to have. The young guys are all going to have to be better in the blitz pickups, hot packages, and special teams. That's a lot to ask of a 1st year guy. The talent difference (if Thompson comes back healthy) will be slight IMO. Will it compensate for the lack of experience?
 

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I have pulled for TT but unless he shows us something different I think he'll be gone this year. I think he was a Parcells pet project and they have spent time on trying to address other needs than RB. He just hasn't had good enough competition because he's just not that good. And some of it has been wishful thinking because he does have extraordinary speed.

If he wins the 3rd RB spot I hope it's because he's gotten much better and not because there just good enough other bodies.

I don't like thinking of him as the 2nd RB. That's what he would be if JJ or MB goes down. Just an unpleasant thought for me.
 

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I like Thompson and I think the best thing that can happen to him is to get cut early in TC so he can hook up w/ another team in need of depth at the position, early enough so he has time to learn their offense.

I agree he isn't very elusive, but I think he can hit the hole pretty quickly and end up w/ a pretty good ypc average if just given the chance. I think he will be a very productive 2nd back sometime soon, just not w/ us. He'll also help someone in a big way as a returner.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1499183 said:
Yeah Yeags, but Hambrick with more speed might have been a pretty decent RB. If he can come back with no loss of explosion or strength, I think he beats out anybody else. You just can't underestimate the experience factor for a 3rd RB IMO. He's not your starter or even your relief back so it's not as if he's going to get many touches to begin with. He's not a difference maker, per say, unless he makes a mistake. Then, he's a difference maker you don't want to have. The young guys are all going to have to be better in the blitz pickups, hot packages, and special teams. That's a lot to ask of a 1st year guy. The talent difference (if Thompson comes back healthy) will be slight IMO. Will it compensate for the lack of experience?

That's a great reminder. I really believe in the three year rule and I think the FO does as well. There is enough of a difference in salary to give rookies a chip. If they have enticing potential as well then it makes it harder for that third or fourth year RB to keep on.

Would you rather pay $250K and get a younger guy under contract for 3 years and have unseen potential or pay the minimum for a 3-4th year and have seen his potential and no you don't have anything really special there?
 

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jobberone;1499194 said:
That's a great reminder. I really believe in the three year rule and I think the FO does as well. There is enough of a difference in salary to give rookies a chip. If they have enticing potential as well then it makes it harder for that third or fourth year RB to keep on.

Would you rather pay $250K and get a younger guy under contract for 3 years and have unseen potential or pay the minimum for a 3-4th year and have seen his potential and no you don't have anything really special there?

If the difference in the two or three guys is minimul, then I'd rather pay the Vet. 250K is not a big salary, it's true, but the difference is maybe 200K or so. That's not a lot considering it only takes one guy to come free and end your QBs season. I'm a real big believer in going with guys who have proven they can understand the assignment and execute it. I'm not saying Thompson is that guy. Just saying that if the difference is slight and Thompson has the offense down, I'd rather pay the extra.

Of course, all bets are off if the injury has taken something away or the difference in potential is significant.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1499205 said:
If the difference in the two or three guys is minimul, then I'd rather pay the Vet. 250K is not a big salary, it's true, but the difference is maybe 200K or so. That's not a lot considering it only takes one guy to come free and end your QBs season. I'm a real big believer in going with guys who have proven they can understand the assignment and execute it. I'm not saying Thompson is that guy. Just saying that if the difference is slight and Thompson has the offense down, I'd rather pay the extra.

Of course, all bets are off if the injury has taken something away or the difference in potential is significant.

Yeah you're right. The money is not the most important thing. I'd say pretty minor at this level but still there. I think mostly like you. I would rather have experience. However as the third we can afford some inexperience. Even a rookie. I guess you have to ask yourself is that 1-2 year back is as good or better now and will be an improvement once potential is reached. I'd say a 3-4 year RB isn't going to magically get better. TT might get enough better with a lot more flexibility and strength with it as well. Add in some agility and maybe he has enough wiggle to keep his job. He still doesn't have major league competition. We didn't draft a pretty sure keeper at RB.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1499183 said:
Yeah Yeags, but Hambrick with more speed might have been a pretty decent RB. If he can come back with no loss of explosion or strength, I think he beats out anybody else. You just can't underestimate the experience factor for a 3rd RB IMO. He's not your starter or even your relief back so it's not as if he's going to get many touches to begin with. He's not a difference maker, per say, unless he makes a mistake. Then, he's a difference maker you don't want to have. The young guys are all going to have to be better in the blitz pickups, hot packages, and special teams. That's a lot to ask of a 1st year guy. The talent difference (if Thompson comes back healthy) will be slight IMO. Will it compensate for the lack of experience?

Hambrick with more speed just means he runs straight ahead faster. I just don't think he's versatile enough to keep his job.
 

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I am amazed how many people are automatically giving Stanback a roster spot.
Heck, a lot of top notch college kick and punt returners can't make it in the NFL(coughSklyar Greencough), let alone guys converted from QB and coming off an injury.
It will be a nice surprise if Stanback pans out but it ain't a lock.
 
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