I did not know it was this bad between TO & Haley

Crown Royal;1090485 said:
I'm not a TO supporter, I never wanted him here, etc. However - he is seriously misquoted here. He said that he didn't expect to talk to Haley outside of football, not that he was done talking to him. I'm shocked no one else has pointed this out.

Correct.

This just means that he is quite the socially challenged individual who has bizarre ways of integrating the personal relationship and the professional. In other words, he is a bit unbalanced.

And I don't think even his most ardent supporter would try to argue he was a well-adjusted individual.

The parallels are all consistent. He lets someone in, he sees some act (even small to others) as an act of betrayal. It is not uncommon with those with mental problems. He trusted McNabb, McNabb "disrespected" him by telling him to shut up in the huddle. He was now the enemy. He opened up to Coach Haley over a few drinks and now Coach Haley doesn't appreciate the fact he had lower gastric distress and raised his voice to him in front of the team. Now Haley is the enemy.

It is pretty simple. Those are the pratfalls. Everyone knew them. It is just that perhaps his responsibility to produce is now an issue. As it should be.

I have to admit as someone who supported the signing, that how he reacts now is going to tell where we are.

If he comes out and produces, I doubt it is an issue. If not, then the meltdown everyone predicted is true.
 
Exactly gang.

be very wary of press of any kind now a days. Dive deeper, Kind of like Fox News.

There you will find the press printing "what they think he said/meant" as opposed to what was actually said.

I'm seeing this more and more with the press, to gather attention to themselves. The "diry Laundry" song is getting more applicable as time goes on.

The difference I'm smart enough to see through their spew, and all the while they think the general public is too stupid to realize.

ya know, there used to be times when we read/heard the news, we didn't question. now I question EVERYTHING. My opinion could go on, but these so called college grads I would fire in an instant for being stoooopid.

(no Lowtech, I'm ok tonight, LOL!!!!)
 
lol,

what I'm referring to is what we seem to be doing here. If you watch very closely, the media (almost all), are continueing to try to stir stuff up. As long as it has partial truth, they will report it in a way to stir stuff up in order for YOU to get riled, and watch their crap.

In sports, the reporting is going to almost like O.J., Katrina, and whatever story that will bring emotional responses to their reporting. This, in turn, gets them mentioned, and YOU to watch and listen.

If everyone doesn't get that, then, welp, good luck. These media groups have meetings everyday, multiple times, to adjust their hype, to get more press. Positive or negative, no matter if they are right or wrong. that is because there is no pain for them being wrong by "US".

Do the research, find them wrong, and hammer them with not watching or listening. My "Fox" analysis was compared to Fox kicking the living crap out of CNN and the rest in ratings, because the American people are a hell of a lot more smarter than these media guys think we are.

and we are not watching them as we used to, because we don't trust them to give us the real facts.

Sports media, get a clue, or a new Fox type media will come around and back-haul all your *****.

Bottom line, media, "Give me the facts, report, and the story will take its course. That is why I watch you in the first place, not to be entertained
 
HighTechDave;1090515 said:
Exactly gang.

be very wary of press of any kind now a days. Dive deeper, Kind of like Fox News.

There you will find the press printing "what they think he said/meant" as opposed to what was actually said.

I'm seeing this more and more with the press, to gather attention to themselves. The "diry Laundry" song is getting more applicable as time goes on.

The difference I'm smart enough to see through their spew, and all the while they think the general public is too stupid to realize.

ya know, there used to be times when we read/heard the news, we didn't question. now I question EVERYTHING. My opinion could go on, but these so called college grads I would fire in an instant for being stoooopid.

(no Lowtech, I'm ok tonight, LOL!!!!)

good...keep that bottle out of your mouth :laugh2:
 
lol!!!!

Tommorrow brotha!!! A shot after every score by the boyz.

I hope I'm drunk off my @$$,,,,,,
 
HighTechDave;1090528 said:
lol!!!!

Tommorrow brotha!!! A shot after every score by the boyz.

I hope I'm drunk off my @$$,,,,,,


You'll be face down in the floor by halftime:beer2:
 
JustSayNotoTO;1090403 said:
It is starting.

up until now, everything reported on TO was fabricated crap.

this is real and *this* is why i never wanted him here. and maybe it's me, but this actually seems to be a well written article about it.

TO will be TO in the end. he can't help it. since i was one that said as soon as drew bounces a few at his feet it's over, i'm not surprised at all.
 
iceberg;1090544 said:
up until now, everything reported on TO was fabricated crap.

this is real and *this* is why i never wanted him here. and maybe it's me, but this actually seems to be a well written article about it.

TO will be TO in the end. he can't help it. since i was one that said as soon as drew bounces a few at his feet it's over, i'm not surprised at all.

On the reverse side, I fully expected better production and Owens being the "X factor" that helped Bledsoe and our offense take the next step.

Losing and Owens' behavior play off each other. It always has and only the foolish would believe it didn't. Had Bledsoe thrown a touchdown to Witten with minutes left, who believes any of this would have resulted?
 
Dale;1090474 said:
Of course, it's not looking like we're any better with TO. So who knows what the heck this team needs.

What this team needs???? How about an improved offensive line? It was putrit when Parcells first got here and it has remained putrid ever since. We should nick-name our OL "The Treadmill" because it is what's making our offense look like it's running in place. Sorry Dale, but I can't blame that on T.O.; no way!

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Alexander;1090547 said:
On the reverse side, I fully expected better production and Owens being the "X factor" that helped Bledsoe and our offense take the next step.

Losing and Owens' behavior play off each other. It always has and only the foolish would believe it didn't. Had Bledsoe thrown a touchdown to Witten with minutes left, who believes any of this would have resulted?

bledsoe shouldn't need any help.

we've got too many last chance players on the team and they're not getting along. the last chance coach isn't helping any either.
 
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