I didn't see game: 2 things

ABQCOWBOY

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The false start by Minny on the same play should also have been called. Should have been offsetting penalties and replayed from the same spot.

Actually, I believe it should have been a 5 yard penalty and Minnesota with another chance to get the two from 5 yards further. The False start basically kills the play so there never would have been a penalty for hands to the face at all.
 

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They should have called the false start. The play would have been dead at that point and the ball moved back another 5 yards,, 2 pt conversion from the 12. The hit to the head should have been called though, but it had no effect on the outcome of the play.

This.
 

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Ok first off that is the coolest signature picture I have seen. It combines my two favorite things. Where did you get that and how can I get one. That is really cool.

One thing that annoys me about all this complaining about the Bradford no call is how many times in the last 5-6 years was Romo hit in the head and there wasn't a call. Boo hoo Vikings you didn't get the call. We didn't get the call on the false start on the same play. I admit that it should have been called but what irritates me is all the times Romo was hit in the head, or hit late, or had roughing the passer that didn't get called. between 2010-2014 there was a lot of times that Romo got hit illegally and it wasn't called. It might not have happened at the end of a game on a possible scoring play but it still happened. And as another poster put it in another thread, Whenever the Viking are robbed in Green Bay on a catch that was ruled a no catch on a 4th down that went for a TD in the playoffs, then come and complain to us.

PM'd you the full picture.
 

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That "hit to the head" or "facemask" whatever they are wanting it to be called... the funny thing is, if the roles would have been reversed the same people complaining about it would be saying "naw, they just need to let these guys play, incidental contact like that after the ball was thrown shouldn't effect the game."

I mean come on... he put his hands up to try and block the pass, his momentum came forward and his arm hit Bradford in the facemask. He didn't grab it, he didn't tug, he didn't even hit him with a enough force to knock Bradfords head around any... get over it. Hell, that's what we Cowboys fans have been told to do since that non-catch in Green Bay. Deal with it.
 

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Yeah, it should have been called. But it didn't affect Bradford throwing it into the first row of the bleachers.

We still got the worse end of the officiating so whatever.
 

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Actually, I believe it should have been a 5 yard penalty and Minnesota with another chance to get the two from 5 yards further. The False start basically kills the play so there never would have been a penalty for hands to the face at all.
You're correct. I was just thinking of each team committing a penalty on the play without giving thought that the false start kills the play. I'm getting old, so give me a break on this one! :)
 

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The false start by Minny on the same play should also have been called. Should have been offsetting penalties and replayed from the same spot.

No, the play should have been blown dead with the false start and the refs should have backed the Vikings up.
 

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They should have called the false start. The play would have been dead at that point and the ball moved back another 5 yards,, 2 pt conversion from the 12. The hit to the head should have been called though, but it had no effect on the outcome of the play.
False start negates anything that happened subsequently.
The personal foul never happened if false start is called.
 

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You're correct. I was just thinking of each team committing a penalty on the play without giving thought that the false start kills the play. I'm getting old, so give me a break on this one! :)

Can do and have been there many times myself.

;)
 

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Actually no-play would have been blown dead.
You're absolutely correct (as I've been reminded at least 10 times already in the posts above). But thanks for pointing it out again anyways! :)
 

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False start negates anything that happened subsequently.
The personal foul never happened if false start is called.
Yep, thus I said the play should have been dead and 5 yards enforced. However, since the play continued with no call on the false start, the hit to the head should have been called.
 

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Great challenge by Garrett. I'm always critical of him, but that was a game changing call

You gonna give props to the nameless guy in the booth who told Garrett to challenge it?
 

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The hit on Bradford at the end....the most important part of that was that no-call didn't affect the outcome of the game. Meaning it didn't cause Minny to lose.

exactly. bradford had already thrown it 10 ft over everyone.
 

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You gonna give props to the nameless guy in the booth who told Garrett to challenge it?

Lol. Like I said. I've been hard on him, so this time I'll just give the benefit of the doubt. I certainly don't blame nameless booth man for poor challenges
 

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The false start by Minny on the same play should also have been called. Should have been offsetting penalties and replayed from the same spot.

I believe this is false. Had they called the false start (like they should've) the play is blown dead and they are pushed back 5 more yards.

The QB's head never gets hit there because they don't let plays that have a false start continue; they're blown dead.
 

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Yep, thus I said the play should have been dead and 5 yards enforced. However, since the play continued with no call on the false start, the hit to the head should have been called.
The hit to the head never happened because the False Start should have been called. It's not rocket science.
 

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I believe this is false. Had they called the false start (like they should've) the play is blown dead and they are pushed back 5 more yards.

The QB's head never gets hit there because they don't let plays that have a false start continue; they're blown dead.
You are correct. I was simply thinking of both teams committing a penalty and, without thinking, saying the penalties,would offset. I had a senior moment while posting. :)
 
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