I do not like Burnett being moved

[JackMagist]

Good observation.

In one game he whips Hutchinson.

In another, Khalif Barnes is handling him with ease (but he did beat him once).

He will need some rest, and I don't understand why anyone wouldn't rather have Burnett doing it than Ogbogu or Thornton.

If Thornton were healthy I don't think Burnett would be moving over there. Thornton is a more complete player than Ogbogu though I actually thought Og would stick around this year.

 

[Champsheart]

Everyone is making some good points and observations.

I still do not like it though. Parcells did mention in one of his Press Conferences earlier that Burnett may be moved later on, but I was thinking to the inside, I can not remember what he said.

Short term I guess this could be OK, and good points are being made.

Long Term something else needs to be done.

Actually I would love for him to be able to play inside.

I love the thought of

Ware Burnett James Fujita

 

[wileedog]

And, the Cowboys aren't relying on two rookie LBs at two different spots.

I think that's the key to it in Bill's mind.

He only has to worry about one side of the field at LB, and won't find himself in a situation, at least early, where Burnett and Ware are both on the field at the same time and not 100% confident in what they are doing.

This is not a permanent move by any means, so until Ware and Burnett have some games under their belt and a better feel for what's going on I really don't have a problem with it.

 

[Alexander]

If Thornton were healthy I don't think Burnett would be moving over there. Thornton is a more complete player than Ogbogu though I actually thought Og would stick around this year.

I did not see anything from Thornton that made him any better than Ogbogu. I think Ogbogu was a better pass rusher, while Thornton was a tad more athletic.

 

[STSINAZ]

burnett will play the run well and ware is having trouble at that...this sures that up....

 

[speedkilz88]

I did not see anything from Thornton that made him any better than Ogbogu. I think Ogbogu was a better pass rusher, while Thornton was a tad more athletic.

Thornton was playing on a bad knee all training camp. One that landed him on the IR and slated for surgery. I think he played really well considering. He wasn't exposed in coverage or in the run game and was in position to rush the passer but didn't have any burst at all on the one leg.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

How about this scenario. Burnett learns to play the outside spot, which is the harder of the spots, and rotates, and then eventually, our LB corps looks like this

ROLB: Ware
ILB: James
ILB: Burnett
LOLB: Fujita

Dat Nguyen isn't going to last forever. He's 30.

 

[Nors]

Parcells likes his backup to be able to play multiple positions. This gives Fujita the reps to oust AlS and Burnett can move back if need be.

 

[lwehlers]

burnett will play the run well and ware is having trouble at that...this sures that up....

this is also in my opinion why bill moved burnett to the weak side. i think all of us noticed how ware got burned by the run atleast once each game. in short yardage situations fujuta is better run stopper then singleton on the strong side also. so we will have two good run stoppers on the field at the same time instead of just one side. on passing downs ware and singleton are our better lbs. singleton also does a better job of covering tightends then what burnett did. one my best friends is a chiefs fan and he also said that fujita (sp?) is a much better run stopper then a pass defender.

 

[Alexander]

this is also in my opinion why bill moved burnett to the weak side. i think all of us noticed how ware got burned by the run atleast once each game. in short yardage situations fujuta is better run stopper then singleton on the strong side also. so we will have two good run stoppers on the field at the same time instead of just one side. on passing downs ware and singleton are our better lbs. singleton also does a better job of covering tightends then what burnett did. one my best friends is a chiefs fan and he also said that fujita (sp?) is a much better run stopper then a pass defender.

No offense to Ware, but Burnett can play linebacker.

Either side.

Ware is still feeling his way around.

I think it is a smart move.

If anyone knows the LBer position it is Coach Parcells.

Just shut up. Nod your head. And learn something.

 

[JackMagist]

I did not see anything from Thornton that made him any better than Ogbogu. I think Ogbogu was a better pass rusher, while Thornton was a tad more athletic.

Thornton was injured throughout most of training camp this year and was slowed. He made some good plays early on in the AZ game. And I though he showed good athletic ability last year even though he was playing down on the end. Og had more experience as a pass rusher and he was bigger.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I bet Burnett's move had as much to do with his not being quite big and strong enough to play strongside as anything. I'm sure that eventually he'll add 8-10 pounds and will be moved back, but right now it makes more sense to have an experienced 250 lb. Fujita there while Burnett plays part time on the weakside. In additon to spelling Ware, he'll have a lot more freedom to run and make plays at that spot.

 

[Dallas4ever]

This makes little sense to me, and I do not like it.

I want Burnett on the field!

For those who are not sure what I am talking about, today Parcells said Fujita plays the same side as Singleton, and Burnett is being moved to Ware's side.

It does look like good depth, but really limits Burnett's chance of getting playing time.

One positive is this will allow Burnett to come in when we play 4 man fronts with Ware at DE.

All in all I do not like it though.

Don't worry. Parcells will get this guy on the field. He's too good to hold back for long.

 

[SmashFactorGolf]

fujihata plays on spec teams?

 

[Bobo]

How are the ILB's working? Does James have the other spot beside Dat all wrapped up? How has James been playing? How about Shanle?

I always thought Burnett would probably best be suited for ILB, guess that's not happening soon. Have they been bringing him out there in the nickle?

 

[smashmouth]

How are the ILB's working? Does James have the other spot beside Dat all wrapped up? How has James been playing? How about Shanle?

I always thought Burnett would probably best be suited for ILB, guess that's not happening soon. Have they been bringing him out there in the nickle?

I'm glad you mentioned that because I have some un-popular things to say about out ILB positions.



I don't think that Dat looked very well at all in any of the pre-season games, unless he was blitzing.



James did a little better-- but every time Ware got blamed for moving up the field, or holding his block, or moving inside and a RB goes in between his position or the outside of him, there was no ILB to be seen.



I have all of the games on tape and have watched them a ton of times play by play, studying every defensive snap.



Those ILB are getting swallowed up on outside runs and it's making me sick. The guards are pulling and neither can shed the TE block or the Guard block, and that's not good.



With that being said and I know this might not be a popular sentence right here, but I think Shanle and Burnett should be our future ILB later on this year.



Shanle seems to be around the ball more than James or Nugyen, and sheds blocks with more ease. Burnett seems to just be a tough arse SOB, and I would groom him for the inside, and let DAT come in on the nickel for his coverage and blitzing skills, and let Fujita and Ware man the outside, IMO.

 

[Bobo]

Thanks for the info Smashmouth. I haven't been able to see much at all this preseason....and I've wondered if this team is still better suited for the 4-3 for now.

 

[Nors]

I isolated Shanle in his starts last year - kid is a player and starting in nickel. Parcells is high on him. I'd not be suprised to see him starting.

 

[smashmouth]

I wouldn't mind seeing Shanle and Dat in the Nickel, and Dat in on the dime.

 

[Galian Beast]

Parcells said he didn't want Ware playing 70 times on the line, but he also said he didn't want him playing 70 times period, and that he'd rather save players like ware, ellis, and glover.

You'll see Ware on nickel downs in the base 4 man line, and in the 3-4 in the second half of games.