I dont like the RB usage

[jaythecowboy]

Are there plenty of backs who led League in rushing their first 3 years?

Are there plenty of RBs who lead League in rushing but are just as adept blocking and receiving?

YPC is poor way to evaluate RB. That is just one small factor. The distinction for RBs is total yards rushing. Then how many rushing TDs.

Total rushing yards mostly has to do with how many attempts you get. There is no difference for the team between one back getting 1600 yards and a committee of 3 backs getting 1600 yards.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Total rushing yards mostly has to do with how many attempts you get. There is no difference for the team between one back getting 1600 yards and a committee of 3 backs getting 1600 yards.

This. Any RB can get 1000 yards if you give him enough carries. Efficiency matters much more for evaluating an individual RB.

Efficiency does have a tie to volume though - the more carries you get, the more sub-optimal situations you tend to play in (3rd and goal, obvious clock killing, etc) that will hurt your YPC. The great thing about Zeke is that he remains efficient even on 25 touch workloads.

 

[blueblood70]

I have always thought his "normal workload" was too much. That is why I wanted a legit backup that could carry some of the load so we have Zeke at his freshest. I think Pollard should get at least one more drive per game. Now that Zeke is locked up for six more years minimum, they can't run him into the ground the way they have been.

dont fret they will find a rhythm for them both but Zeke needed early work get his legs and body used to contact and real loads..im sure as the season wears on they will have better mix for both.. gives pollard but of time to adjust as well..

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dont get me wrong, this was a great win. Yes, you could say I'm nitpicking. But we are always trying to get better, right?

Pollard only saw 4 carries, at a clip of 5.5 yards per. If I recall correctly, all but one was on a single drive in the 3rd quarter, while Zeke rested for several snaps.

Two things:

First, Pollard is showing that he can be a productive NFL RB in limited doses. I'd like it if a few of Zeke's 23 carries were given to Pollard. We easily could have snuck a few to Pollard during the 4th quarter, if nothing else.

Second, I don't like that his carries mostly came on one possession. If Zeke needs a rest, by all means play Pollard for a few consecutive series. But also, sprinkle in Pollard throughout the game, and hit the defense with a bit of a change up. San Diego, for example, has done a great job in years past of mixing Gordon and Ekeler dynamically and creatively.

I think fixing the above will help Pollard grow as a player and also help Zeke stay fresh during the game and over the course of the season. It could be that Pollard genuinely isnt ready for this. However, today's RB distribution has always been Jason Garrett's approach to Zeke, so I suspect this is a coaching decision.

Thoughts?

well, I didn't like the line up and personnel usage on the 35th play of the game, with 10:54 to go in the 3rd quarter and how they were lined up with the off set RB and Dak in shot gun with 2 WRs on the left and one TE on the right. it doesn't seem right to run that kind of formation at that point in the game

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Yeah, I know the numbers. I still think that 20 for Zeke and 7 for Pollard will eventually lead to a healthier offense.

Pollard can run down the clock too, you know.

23 carries are not earth shattering, you know. That was a slow day for Emmitt. My beef was the third & one call where Zak threw the pick. Not only did they not call a run, but didn't even have a RB in the formation for play action. Why would the DT even slow down without the threat of a run? It failed to protect Dak, & he was pressured from the get go.

 

[CowboyRoy]

m

Are there plenty of backs who led League in rushing their first 3 years?

Are there plenty of RBs who lead League in rushing but are just as adept blocking and receiving?

YPC is poor way to evaluate RB. That is just one small factor. The distinction for RBs is total yards rushing. Then how many rushing TDs.

Do you think Zeke would lead the league in rushing if he got 250 carries? Not likely.

Total yards from scrimmage and TD's are the measuring stick today. But really since there are so many RB by committee teams, there are only a handful of backs that are going to get 300 or more carries a year. Maybe 2 or 3 if that.

I like Zeke, but there are better backs.

 

[xtreme_2k]

Dont get me wrong, this was a great win. Yes, you could say I'm nitpicking. But we are always trying to get better, right?

Pollard only saw 4 carries, at a clip of 5.5 yards per. If I recall correctly, all but one was on a single drive in the 3rd quarter, while Zeke rested for several snaps.

Two things:

First, Pollard is showing that he can be a productive NFL RB in limited doses. I'd like it if a few of Zeke's 23 carries were given to Pollard. We easily could have snuck a few to Pollard during the 4th quarter, if nothing else.

Second, I don't like that his carries mostly came on one possession. If Zeke needs a rest, by all means play Pollard for a few consecutive series. But also, sprinkle in Pollard throughout the game, and hit the defense with a bit of a change up. San Diego, for example, has done a great job in years past of mixing Gordon and Ekeler dynamically and creatively.

I think fixing the above will help Pollard grow as a player and also help Zeke stay fresh during the game and over the course of the season. It could be that Pollard genuinely isnt ready for this. However, today's RB distribution has always been Jason Garrett's approach to Zeke, so I suspect this is a coaching decision.

Thoughts?

Here's my thoughts....glad you are not the offensive coordinator!

 

[DasSchnitzel]

Just judging by all these alerts I'm getting, people on here cant read.

People think I said Pollard is as good as Zeke. I didnt.

People think I said Pollard and Zeke should have similar carry counts. I didnt.

I love how all these posters saying "our offense is stuck in 1992" for years are freaking out at giving 7 carries instead of 4 to the RB2. People preaching that starters shouldn't play preseason want Zeke running useless garbage time inside runs.

And of course the obligatory shot at my intelligence in just about every alert, that's nice too.

 

[eromeopolk]

You're nit picking.

Agree. If not for the OL penalties, Pollard would have scored on that drive.

 

[Alexander]

Elliott
23 carries 111 yards 4.8 avg

Pollard
4 carries 22 yards 5.5 avg.

I like our RB usage just fine.

Agreed. If anything, I would rather see Pollard used more in the passing attack rather than have more than 4-5 carries a game.

 

[DasSchnitzel]

Agreed. If anything, I would rather see Pollard used more in the passing attack rather than have more than 4-5 carries a game.

That's fine too and I mentioned scenarios like that throughout the thread. I would want a carry or two though so that it doesn't turn into a Dunbar thing where the defense just assumes Pollard will do a gimmick. The kid can run well enough to establish that he's not a one trick pony.

 

[Established1971]

Dont get me wrong, this was a great win. Yes, you could say I'm nitpicking. But we are always trying to get better, right?

Pollard only saw 4 carries, at a clip of 5.5 yards per. If I recall correctly, all but one was on a single drive in the 3rd quarter, while Zeke rested for several snaps.

Two things:

First, Pollard is showing that he can be a productive NFL RB in limited doses. I'd like it if a few of Zeke's 23 carries were given to Pollard. We easily could have snuck a few to Pollard during the 4th quarter, if nothing else.

Second, I don't like that his carries mostly came on one possession. If Zeke needs a rest, by all means play Pollard for a few consecutive series. But also, sprinkle in Pollard throughout the game, and hit the defense with a bit of a change up. San Diego, for example, has done a great job in years past of mixing Gordon and Ekeler dynamically and creatively.

I think fixing the above will help Pollard grow as a player and also help Zeke stay fresh during the game and over the course of the season. It could be that Pollard genuinely isnt ready for this. However, today's RB distribution has always been Jason Garrett's approach to Zeke, so I suspect this is a coaching decision.

Thoughts?

we are 2-0 dont you know you have to be nothing but sunshine and optimism about all facets? according to some people

 

[JoeKing]

Dont get me wrong, this was a great win. Yes, you could say I'm nitpicking. But we are always trying to get better, right?

Pollard only saw 4 carries, at a clip of 5.5 yards per. If I recall correctly, all but one was on a single drive in the 3rd quarter, while Zeke rested for several snaps.

Two things:

First, Pollard is showing that he can be a productive NFL RB in limited doses. I'd like it if a few of Zeke's 23 carries were given to Pollard. We easily could have snuck a few to Pollard during the 4th quarter, if nothing else.

Second, I don't like that his carries mostly came on one possession. If Zeke needs a rest, by all means play Pollard for a few consecutive series. But also, sprinkle in Pollard throughout the game, and hit the defense with a bit of a change up. San Diego, for example, has done a great job in years past of mixing Gordon and Ekeler dynamically and creatively.

I think fixing the above will help Pollard grow as a player and also help Zeke stay fresh during the game and over the course of the season. It could be that Pollard genuinely isnt ready for this. However, today's RB distribution has always been Jason Garrett's approach to Zeke, so I suspect this is a coaching decision.

Thoughts?

I think you're 100% correct... you are nitpicking. We do want to always strive to get better but we also don't need to be fixing something that isn't broke. We are 2-0. That tells me whatever you have in mind with Pollard is just going to mess with the magic formula that has got us this far. Adjustments like what you are talking about can be made if what we are presently doing stops working.

 

[links18]

I thought they wer going to throw Pollard the ball, create mismatches, etc. Right now, they are using him like he was Rod Smith.

 

[DHCBF66]

Dont get me wrong, this was a great win. Yes, you could say I'm nitpicking. But we are always trying to get better, right?

Pollard only saw 4 carries, at a clip of 5.5 yards per. If I recall correctly, all but one was on a single drive in the 3rd quarter, while Zeke rested for several snaps.

Two things:

First, Pollard is showing that he can be a productive NFL RB in limited doses. I'd like it if a few of Zeke's 23 carries were given to Pollard. We easily could have snuck a few to Pollard during the 4th quarter, if nothing else.

Second, I don't like that his carries mostly came on one possession. If Zeke needs a rest, by all means play Pollard for a few consecutive series. But also, sprinkle in Pollard throughout the game, and hit the defense with a bit of a change up. San Diego, for example, has done a great job in years past of mixing Gordon and Ekeler dynamically and creatively.

I think fixing the above will help Pollard grow as a player and also help Zeke stay fresh during the game and over the course of the season. It could be that Pollard genuinely isnt ready for this. However, today's RB distribution has always been Jason Garrett's approach to Zeke, so I suspect this is a coaching decision.

Thoughts?

13 carries for 24 yards against the Giants....1.8 YPC....We never had an issue with Emmitt's back ups not getting reps!

 

[BAT]

m


Do you think Zeke would lead the league in rushing if he got 250 carries? Not likely.

Total yards from scrimmage and TD's are the measuring stick today. But really since there are so many RB by committee teams, there are only a handful of backs that are going to get 300 or more carries a year. Maybe 2 or 3 if that.

I like Zeke, but there are better backs.

LMAO, you are hopeless.

 

[ShiningStar]

13 carries for 24 yards against the Giants....1.8 YPC....We never had an issue with Emmitt's back ups not getting reps!

thats because the goal back then was to win the SB. see the big difference.

 

[DHCBF66]

thats because the goal back then was to win the SB. see the big difference.

And running Pollard more and NOT running Zeke is going to win us a Super Bowl? See the difference? Pollard was a 4th rounder for a reason, Zeke was the 4TH over all pick for a reason.

 

[Bohuntr97]

Relax, it was a divisional game and we were not exactly blowing them out. Pollard will get his reps this season, Miami is coming up.

 

[ShiningStar]

And running Pollard more and NOT running Zeke is going to win us a Super Bowl? See the difference? Pollard was a 4th rounder for a reason, Zeke was the 4TH over all pick for a reason.

it could, Rbs dont get younger and if Dallas means business, they really gotta use him correctly. Effective is not a term this organization is used to. i know im sounding confusing, but i can see the OPs point. and im not against your point but back than the compeition was much stiffer and we could use Emmitt longer and harder. Rbs dont have as long a shelf life in todays league.