I feel like im in the Twilight Zone

[Deep_South]

I don't mind having Garrett back, mainly because he is probably our best chance to convince Jerry to draft linemen in the early rounds. Plus, I think Garrett will be a much better coach if we get NFL quality talent to start on the DL, depth at OL, etc. Our list of needs is long, but that is where to start, IMO.

 

[Zordon]

Just wait till those corporate dbags Ben and Skin come on later.

 

[MikeT22]

I don't mind having Garrett back, mainly because he is probably our best chance to convince Jerry to draft linemen in the early rounds. Plus, I think Garrett will be a much better coach if we get NFL quality talent to start on the DL, depth at OL, etc. Our list of needs is long, but that is where to start, IMO.

Jason has consistently shown he has no feel for the game. He makes the same mistakes in game management and playcalling over and over and over and never learns. We've wasted the last 3 years with him as gameday HC and looks like we're going to bring him back for another turn.

But I'm sure Jerry will try and sell a new DC to the fans as the big change that will turn everything around.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Jason has consistently shown he has no feel for the game. He makes the same mistakes in game management and playcalling over and over and over and never learns. We've wasted the last 3 years with him as gameday HC and looks like we're going to bring him back for another turn.

But I'm sure Jerry will try and sell a new DC to the fans as the big change that will turn everything around.

so you want your gm to react to fans outrage. you think that is an improved way to handle things?

 

[pjtoadie]

same here. people are crying about an offense that scored the 4th most points in the league.

that alone is twilight zone material.

Who cares how many points this team scored. Three 8-8 seasons and no playoffs. Horrible playcalling and game mgmt in the GB and Detroit games. Not to mention last night having a backup QB throwing the ball 46 times when the game was within reach.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Who cares how many points this team scored. Three 8-8 seasons and no playoffs. Horrible playcalling and game mgmt in the GB and Detroit games. Not to mention last night having a backup QB throwing the ball 46 times when the game was within reach.

I care about things like how many points our offense scored.

 

[pjtoadie]

I care about things like how many points our offense scored.

Hmm so play calling and game mgmt have no effect on you? So you were happy that we scored 26 points in the 1st half of the GB game but could care less that we still threw the ball mostly in the 2nd half and kept putting our bad defense in bad situations?

 

[blindzebra]

Who cares how many points this team scored. Three 8-8 seasons and no playoffs. Horrible playcalling and game mgmt in the GB and Detroit games. Not to mention last night having a backup QB throwing the ball 46 times when the game was within reach.

I am still waiting for any of you broken records to sum up what was the problem against the Lions.

I have totally shot down each and every BS argument.

And the GB game taken in context was not the colossal mess you all make it out to be either.

 

[Fmart322]

I think that would be a good move on Jerry's part but I doubt the RHG would go for it. I actually believe that Garrett would be a great GM/personnel guy.

I also agree that Garrett would better serve in a FO position. He would act as a buffer between the head coach and Jerry. If that's the only way to get Garrett out as HC.

 

[pjtoadie]

I am still waiting for any of you broken records to sum up what was the problem against the Lions.

I have totally shot down each and every BS argument.

And the GB game taken in context was not the colossal mess you all make it out to be either.

I love how we're called "broken records" but the Garrett lovers always say "hey we scored a lot of points the year" and have no other defense for the guy. The owner even said that Garrett makes many mistakes and he's his biggest fan.

The GB game in context or out of context is what it is! We had a 26-3 lead at half where our RB was shredding their defense but decided to go pass happy in the 2nd half, not kill any clock, and continue to put our defense in bad situations. Anything I miss?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

And the GB game taken in context was not the colossal mess you all make it out to be either.

The Green Bay game was an absolute disaster. People like Mickey were claiming it would take a miracle to beat the Eagles with Orton, a highly-paid backup who's been here for years? Well, we lost to Matt Freaking Flynn, a fourth string backup off the street, and made him look like Joe Montana. With an assist from our HC who refused to run the ball and shorten the game at all in the second half.

 

[MikeT22]

so you want your gm to react to fans outrage. you think that is an improved way to handle things?

Nope. Didn't say that.

What I want is for the gm to do what's best for the team, not his own ego. Even though the main problem is Jerry being GM and Jerry trying to pull the strings and do things his way, he won't change that. He also won't change the 2nd biggest problem, which is Garrett.

And since Jerry is also the teams primary salesman, in order to try and quell the criticism and keep the fans onboard I'm sure he knows he has to change something and not just go into next year with total status quo. So I expect letting Kiffin go will be the only main change he makes and he'll try and pass that off the big change that will get us over the hump.

 

[MikeT22]

I care about things like how many points our offense scored.

I care about things like how many games the team wins. A big problem with our lack of wins is Garrett's horrible gameday management and playcalling. When in doubt, abandon the run and pass, pass, pass.

 

[MikeT22]

LOL I am loving it!

Interesting how a "fan" can find pleasure in our constant failures.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Nope. Didn't say that.

What I want is for the gm to do what's best for the team, not his own ego. Even though the main problem is Jerry being GM and Jerry trying to pull the strings and do things his way, he won't change that. He also won't change the 2nd biggest problem, which is Garrett.

And since Jerry is also the teams primary salesman, in order to try and quell the criticism and keep the fans onboard I'm sure he knows he has to change something and not just go into next year with total status quo. So I expect letting Kiffin go will be the only main change he makes and he'll try and pass that off the big change that will get us over the hump.

Fans don’t seem to want to acknowledge how ignorant they are here. We are incredibly ignorant, will you agree?

For instance, who really decided on acquiring press corners, then firing Ryan and hiring the next guy? Was it the HC? Are we sure?

I can only go by what I know is true. I know the only reason we have remained competitive is because of our offense I know when really bad things have happened to this franchise, like the death of players, we have rallied around the team and fought adversity. I know those are signs the offensive minded head coach has potential.

I’m guessing like the rest. My hunch is the power structure in Dallas is rotten and we aren’t going to improve by changing the guy wearing the hat on the sidelines because the problem is bigger then that.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I care about things like how many games the team wins. A big problem with our lack of wins is Garrett's horrible gameday management and playcalling. When in doubt, abandon the run and pass, pass, pass.

your opinion is noted, but I don't agree.

time after time, this horrible game management boils down to not liking a play call that failed.

like the 4th and 1 pass. that wasn't bad game management. it was a play that didn't work. or calling a time out that supposedly iced a kicker. just fans being fans and venting, but I don't agree or respect their opinion in those cases.

 

[MikeT22]

I’m guessing like the rest. My hunch is the power structure in Dallas is rotten and we aren’t going to improve by changing the guy wearing the hat on the sidelines because the problem is bigger then that.

I agree the main problem is higher up than Garrett. I'm also fairly certain that Jerry isn't going to hire another GM.

Another thing I'm certain about is that we've gone 8-8 with Garrett the last 3 years. We have also lost numerous games where he's made major gametime mismanagement mistakes. There's also been quite a few losses where our pass happy attack has bite us in the butt.

Now is it possible that our next "HC" could be worse? Sure, since it's Jerry that will be doing the hiring. But the status quo with Garrett is only providing us with 8-8 non-playoff seasons. I'd rather take my chances than stick with the known mediocrity.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

We have also lost numerous games where he's made major gametime mismanagement mistakes.

strongly disagree. instead, we have lost games where ignorant fans blame him for losses because they don't really know what is going on and have to blame someone.

 

[MikeT22]

your opinion is noted, but I don't agree.

time after time, this horrible game management boils down to not liking a play call that failed.

like the 4th and 1 pass. that wasn't bad game management. it was a play that didn't work. or calling a time out that supposedly iced a kicker. just fans being fans and venting, but I don't agree or respect their opinion in those cases.

By game management I was referring more specifically to clock management, timeout usage, going for it on 4th down or not, etc. Play calling is a whole 'nother matter that is also been a problem. He has zero idea how to run a balanced attack, how to attack a defense, how to make in game adjustments, how to have the QB manage the game on the field, etc.

But sure, I'm sure after all these years he'll magically get it right before next season.

 

[MikeT22]

strongly disagree. instead, we have lost games where ignorant fans blame him for losses because they don't really know what is going on and have to blame someone.

Noted. But the fans aren't going to be responsible for Garrett's failures.