I give you Dak Prescott - the NFL's highest rated passer

[Rockport]

Actually it's your and not you're.....as in you're making your moronic comments yet again.

Damn I thought you got banned.

 

[Nav22]

....and it's meaningless unless the team wins.

There are threads on the front page of CZ about Micah Parsons, Connor Williams, Dorance Armstrong, Zeke, Coach McCarthy and others.

Have you interrupted any of those threads with this same qualifier about it being “meaningless unless the team wins”?

No?

Oh.

Then it’s just a personal issue you have with our elite, MVP-candidate QB.

Dak wins, you lose. Winners win, losers lose.

 

[Mr_437]

Come on man.. in a sport where 52 other players and a dozen coaches contribute to wins and losses this is far too simplistic a view. There have been a lot of QBs who have played at the highest level whose teammates have let them down at the worst possible moment. If we're just counting Super Bowls then Jeff Hostetler, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Joe Theisman, Joe Flacco and a host of other less than great QBs are better than Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Fran Tarkenton and a couple dozen other QBs who are in the Hall .. It's always tricky to judge guys we didn't see play.. but for the guys I did see play I try to stay away from evaluating them in a vacuum.. I mean who here thinks Eli Manning is better than Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers or Kurt Warner cause he won two Super Bowls and they only won one?

Dak is the Dallas Cowboys QB, and that's how Cowboys QBs are judged fair or not. This man has all types of endorsements and praise without winning two playoff games in a row because he's the QB for Dallas. Tony Romo will be remembered as a broadcaster more than a player in all likelihood...just an example. Dak has to bring home that hardware or all his stats won't amount to much.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dak is the Dallas Cowboys QB, and that's how Cowboys QBs are judged fair or not. This man has all types of endorsements and praise without winning two playoff games in a row because he's the QB for Dallas. Tony Romo will be remembered as a broadcaster more than a player in all likelihood...just an example. Dak has to bring home that hardware or all his stats won't amount to much.

Your endorsements and praise aren't really dependent on your hardware though ask Baker Mayfield....

 

[Rockport]

....and it's meaningless unless the team wins.

7-2 and Dak in the running for MVP.

 

[Doomsday101]

The trophy is what matters...

Yep I want the SB do not care about MVP of SB

 

[RonnieT24]

Dak is the Dallas Cowboys QB, and that's how Cowboys QBs are judged fair or not. This man has all types of endorsements and praise without winning two playoff games in a row because he's the QB for Dallas. Tony Romo will be remembered as a broadcaster more than a player in all likelihood...just an example. Dak has to bring home that hardware or all his stats won't amount to much.

Oh I don't disagree.. I just think it's silly to use a team metric to evaluate an individual. Like I always say, until they line the QBs up at the 50 yard line and make them play one on one I will never buy into the whole won/loss record thing. Never have and never will. You HAVE to watch the games and evaluate for yourself how a guy impacts it. We know stats are only part of the story... That's a given.. But if I watch a QB lead an offense to 30+ points per game all season and in the playoffs but we get knocked out of the playoffs because the defense gives up even more than that I am able to separate that QB's performance from the team's performance. I'm not holding him responsible for the failures of others. That can't be that hard a distinction to make can it?

 

[Mr_437]

Your endorsements and praise aren't really dependent on your hardware though ask Baker Mayfield....

Touche...haha Mayfield is not that dude.

 

[Ranching]

There are threads on the front page of CZ about Micah Parsons, Connor Williams, Dorance Armstrong, Zeke, Coach McCarthy and others.

Have you interrupted any of those threads with this same qualifier about it being “meaningless unless the team wins”?

No?

Oh.

Then it’s just a personal issue you have with our elite, MVP-candidate QB.

Dak wins, you lose. Winners win, losers lose.

Yep, this cat has some issues.....

 

[Mr_437]

Oh I don't disagree.. I just think it's silly to use a team metric to evaluate an individual. Like I always say, until they line the QBs up at the 50 yard line and make them play one on one I will never buy into the whole won/loss record thing. Never have and never will. You HAVE to watch the games and evaluate for yourself how a guy impacts it. We know stats are only part of the story... That's a given.. But if I watch a QB lead an offense to 30+ points per game all season and in the playoffs but we get knocked out of the playoffs because the defense gives up even more than that I am able to separate that QB's performance from the team's performance. I'm not holding him responsible for the failures of others. That can't be that hard a distinction to make can it?

I get your point, Dak is performing at an MVP level and I agree with that. In the opinion of the collective your either champ or chump.

 

[Ranching]

Damn I thought you got banned.

Didn't he post a while back apologizing for being a total tool? I guess he got over it....

 

[Rockport]

Didn't he post a while back apologizing for being a total tool? I guess he got over it....

If he did I missed it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Touche...haha Mayfield is not that dude.

I'll say this for him......his commercials are pretty good lol.

 

[RonnieT24]

I get your point, Dak is performing at an MVP level and I agree with that. In the opinion of the collective your either champ or chump.

Well I've never been all that good at following the herd..

 

[Mr_437]

I'll say this for him......his commercials are pretty good lol.

Right..the concept is awesome, but the player isn't aging well. Replace Baker with Dak at AT&T.

 

[phildadon86]

@Captain-Crash Interesting. You told me he folds under pressure and cant pass when pressured. Amazing

 

[Mr_437]

Well I've never been all that good at following the herd..

Sweet...me either, but herd is majority and shape the narrative, especially in Pro Football.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Right..the concept is awesome, but the player isn't aging well. Replace Baker with Dak at AT&T.

Yeah I think Dak could handle it lol. /And they got Baker to do those commercials so early......I guess they feel they are tied in lol.

 

[Seven]

There are threads on the front page of CZ about Micah Parsons, Connor Williams, Dorance Armstrong, Zeke, Coach McCarthy and others.

Have you interrupted any of those threads with this same qualifier about it being “meaningless unless the team wins”?

No?

Oh.

Then it’s just a personal issue you have with our elite, MVP-candidate QB.

Dak wins, you lose. Winners win, losers lose.

........ and BAM!!!! x 1,000,000,000

OWNED.....AGAIN.

 

[Seven]

We are not fans of 31 other teams. This league doesn't give participation trophies.
2nd place is the first loser.

Uhhhhh... ya, they do.

It's called Conference championship.

They get a trophy and everything..