I hate the Eagles

[tomson75]

First of all its common knowledge that Irvin was a drug user and pleaded "no contest" to felony cocaine possession. His plea bargain got him off with no jail time. If you're going to question my knowledge have the facts first.

I did....you suggested he was convicted. He wasn't. He was man enough to admit what he did. Vick? Not so much.

Secondly.. again, its not like Mike Vick was slaughtering those dogs himself. He was in it for the money. How is it anymore "right" to have millionaires who slaughter animals to eat them, or to hunt or fish and kill certain animals for sport, then to well.. kill certain animals for sport?

While we're on the topic of "having the facts", how about you follow my lead cochise...

Vick did kill dogs himself. In fact, he got an "Adrenaline rush" from doing so....

http://www.wvec.com/home/Vick-got-adrenaline-rush-from-killing-dogs-documents-say-81034412.html

....and if you can't see the difference between hunting for food, killing animals in a controlled environment to support a population, and hanging dogs from trees or beating their skulls in with shovels....well, you're dumber than I thought...which is a pretty bad place to start.

The only thing dumb about it is that our culture makes one of those seem ok and another not ok and people just blindly follow it. If you're offended then i encourage you to think about what the real differences actually are, because there are few.

The only thing I'm offended by is your existence. No surprise you're from the Philly area...you deserve to be.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Vick's boys that rolled over on him claim he held the dogs heads under water. Vick denied it to the very end! He thought his boys were going to take the heat! He wasn't sorry! He was sorry he got caught! It's easy to say all the right things when things are going well for you. I'd like to see or hear what the guy has to say if some team wouldn't have picked him up. If he had to fall back on that VA Tech education.

Look, lets not turn this thread into some ethics debate.

Bottom line.. Vick killed defenseless animals, and made them suffer before doing it.

What he did was.. WRONG.

However, a good population of Americans hunt for sport, they make animals suffer, and then kill them.

The major difference.. we don't have the same kind of emotional attachment to the animals that we say its ok to "hunt" as we do to the ones we think are "cute" and we love to pet and throw frisbees too.

To say that Vick shouldn't be allowed back in the NFL or win any award relating to his play on the football field because he committed a felony crime.. yet we have one of the greatest and most popular players in Cowboys history who committed a felony crime and came back and is in the HoF now.. is hypocritical.

That's all i was saying. Anyone who was offended, i apoligize to you, but please don't be so sensitive. Back to your regularly scheduled Eagles suck thread..

 

[hookemhorns72]

I did....you suggested he was convicted. He wasn't. He was man enough to admit what he did. Vick? Not so much.



While we're on the topic of "having the facts", how about you follow my lead cochise...

Vick did kill dogs himself. In fact, he got an "Adrenaline rush" from doing so....

http://www.wvec.com/home/Vick-got-adrenaline-rush-from-killing-dogs-documents-say-81034412.html

....and if you can't see the difference between hunting for food, killing animals in a controlled environment to support a population, and hanging dogs from trees or beating their skulls in with shovels....well, you're dumber than I thought...which is a pretty bad place to start.



The only thing I'm offended by is your existence. No surprise you're from the Philly area...you deserve to be.

Got this from your link Tomson.

"I did all the right things," Vick said at a September event in Philadelphia. "Did a great job in school, listened to my mom because she taught me right from wrong. But when I walked out that door I had another side to me and it was a dark side."

Is his mom with him now? And let's not leave Marcus Vick out of this discussion! Ms Vick keep doing what your doing! You've raised some fine young men!

 

[RoyTheHammer]

....and if you can't see the difference between hunting for food, killing animals in a controlled environment to support a population, and hanging dogs from trees or beating their skulls in with shovels....well, you're dumber than I thought...which is a pretty bad place to start.

Yes because hunters in America hunt for food right? Because there's a necessity to feed themselves? Its not for sport or for entertainment at all right?

Please.. get outta here.

Vick killed animals and made them suffer. Hunters kill animals and make them suffer. What's the differnce?

We don't need hunters to support our population, we have slaughterhouses for that. That's much more humane right?

Calling me dumb with these arguments is laughable at best. PM me if you want to discuss it because this thread isn't about this.

Honestly mods.. if you want to delete all the posts that got off topic here, please do. I apoligize for helping to drag this thread off the OP.

 

[hookemhorns72]

Look, lets not turn this thread into some ethics debate.

Bottom line.. Vick killed defenseless animals, and made them suffer before doing it.

What he did was.. WRONG.

However, a good population of Americans hunt for sport, they make animals suffer, and then kill them.

The major difference.. we don't have the same kind of emotional attachment to the animals that we say its ok to "hunt" as we do to the ones we think are "cute" and we love to pet and throw frisbees too.

To say that Vick shouldn't be allowed back in the NFL or win any award relating to his play on the football field because he committed a felony crime.. yet we have one of the greatest and most popular players in Cowboys history who committed a felony crime and came back and is in the HoF now.. is hypocritical.

That's all i was saying. Anyone who was offended, i apoligize to you, but please don't be so sensitive. Back to your regularly scheduled Eagles suck thread..

FYI You should never bring up Irvin's name ,in a negative way, in a HATE EGALS thread! No matter what point you are trying to make! Doesn't go over well! And not the same thing!

 

[RoyTheHammer]

FYI You should never bring up Irvin's name ,in a negative way, in a HATE EGALS thread! No matter what point you are trying to make! Doesn't go over well! And not the same thing!

Its just making the point that football players are human. They make mistakes, they commit crimes. Both committed a felony. Both were wrong. I just don't subscribe to all the homerism that makes one felony different than another, as far as them not being able to come back and play the game again.

 

[Boom]

Desean Jackson
Ricky Watters
Fred-Ex
Annoying Jaws
Eagles fight song

 

[Aikmaniac]

UPDATE 12/7/10:

So I realized there was a lot more I had to say about this team. Try and bear with me here.

I'm going to quickly revisit how much I hate McNabb. For me, there is no such thing as beating a dead horse with this guy. I was watching the Commanders-Giants game with my fraternity this weekend, and as I was watching McNabb do what he does best (choke), I overheard some Eagles fans going "Hey, McNabb why aren't you smiling? That's what you always do when you mess up!" How true this is. I know I already addressed this, but this is something I can't stand. People get on Romo's case for messing up and then doing some arbitrary thing that people have to piss and moan about, but step back for a second and look at McNabb. He made a career out of literally puking away games for the Eagles, and then just gets up and smiles, pats himself on the chest saying "my fault my fault". Everyone knows it's your fault you *******, the defender just returned your INT for a TD. In addition to his dumb post mistake smiles, his dancing is absurd. It's playoff time, and here you go out of the gate playing AIR GUITAR and dancing around like a monkey. Of course his little stooge DeSean is all in his butt as he's doing this.

McNabb Part III: Things I hate about his play: Around my friends, we refer to what Rape Fumblesberger does on the Steelers in reference to staying alive in the pocket as "The Ben Shuffle". I hate that he can't go down no matter what defenses do. It's a trait that I can't stand when it isn't on my team. McNabb's whole career was this. I would tear my hair out constantly because we couldn't bring his fat *** down. McNabb also gets praise as an accurate passer, yet he also spent much of his life throwing balls at 100 mph and launching epic dirt balls and then going into the post game press conference complaining about the need for "weapons". What a joke.

For whatever reason, I don't really have a problem with Reid, but I HATE his west coast offense. If I'm not watching a screen go for 30 yards every other play, I'm watching a QB friendly designed slant pass or roll out to throw for easy 10 yards. I refuse to believe every QB they have isn't a product of their system. They were able to make Jeff Garcia into a superstar. They were able to make AJ FEELY into a superstar. So no matter what anyone tells me about Kolb being so good or Vick being this monster QB, take them out of Philly and you have nothing.

I HATE LeSean McCoy. Why? Because his nickname is Shady. That's lame. Moving on.

I HATE their stadium. Lincoln Financial Field is a piece of garbage that breeds even more garbage from their fans. I can only hope and pray that we shutout the Eagles on Jan. 2, because when I go to that game for the first time ever, I may end up choking someone out if I have to hear their fight song. Hilariously enough, they've been "fighting" for 50 years. I guess that makes all of their fans veterans.

I HATE how Philadelphia celebrates a championship win. Now this may not be fair, because the Phillies were the first team there to win anything in 30 some years, but I'll do it anyway. When your team wins a championship, there is absolutely no reason to loot and pillage your own city. For crying out loud, I had to watch commercials of BILL COSBY telling people to stop the violence.

I HATE that my manager at work as literally never talked to me (this is actually not an exaggeration) without somehow managing to sneak something about the Cowboys in there. Oh hey can I get my paycheck? Oh sure, by the way the Cowboys are terrible and there's a new tax New Jersey passed that says all Cowboys fans have to pay them 50%!!! herp a derp derp. HUR HUR HURRRRRRRRRR. That's .00001% of the comments I deal with whenever I'm working. I blame this solely on the Eagles, therefore fitting criteria for putting it in this thread. :laugh2:

I HATE Merrill Reese. He's a radio broadcaster for Philadelphia and I have never heard a more biased talking announcer. I mean, most in Philly are, but this guy takes it to a new level. Someone try and look up a sound bite from him if I don't end up posting one. I'll walk you through a typical Eagles play compared to the visiting team:

"Vick steps back... he's looking, looking... STEPS UP ONE YARD HE'S DOWN TO THE 29 HE STEPS BACK 5 YARDSS!!!!!! HE'S RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLES NOW!!!! VICK BACK TO THE 49, HE'S LOOKING AGAIN, SPRINTING FORWARD, HE FFFIIIIIRREEESSSSSSS AND ITTSSSS CAUGHT! CAUGHT BY DESEAN JACKSON! CAUGHT CAUGHT CAUGHT!!! ITS GOOD FOR 5 YARDS AND AN EAGLES FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRST DOWN!"

Visiting Team: "Romo steps back. He throws to Witten for a touchdown."

I'm almost positive for every offensive snap the Eagles take, Merrill Reese has an aneurysm.

I think this one is more personal to me. I HATE... HATE... HATE that I have to "fear" going to the Cowboys game @the Linc in a month. I have people coming up to me not to wear Cowboys gear or try not to cheer for my team because I might get shot or beat up my drunk people. And these are all serious comments to, I actually have people that are scared for me to go to this football game. This is absurd. Honestly. I have my mother asking what kinds of tear gas or tazer guns to bring with me (said in all joking though) and to strap up with a bullet proof vest. If that's what happens to be a fan of a rival team, that it means people throw away their humanism and revert to drunkenly violent and abusive acts just for supporting a different team, there is seriously something wrong with this city.

I actually stood up and applauded this post.

 

[bayeslife]

I almost went as far as to say if we sweep the Eagles this year, I would go ahead and buy a round for everyone, then realized I would be in debt for quite some time. :laugh2:

 

[ilovejerry]

Well it's almost time to play the puke green wearing Eagles again, and I'm getting all fired up to watch them get drilled into the ground by our own guys this week.

There only about 100,000 things I can't stand about the Eagles, but I guess the first of it has to start with this: their fans. I can't tell you just how annoying, arrogant, and idiotic this fan base is. I happen to live in the center of New Jersey where it's split between Giants and Eagles, and I can tell you that the Eagles are way way worse for me to deal with. This is a fan base that shows absolutely no respect for anyone and goes about it in the most scumbaggish way possible. These guys have never won a Superbowl, but you would be hard pressed to think that if you hung around here for about 5 seconds. Division titles, NFC Championship games are about the only things these guys can hang their hats on. They wish injury upon every player on the Cowboys, and make life hell for anyone who wants to sport silver and blue. I understand football is a harsh sport and its up to the own choice of the person, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere. The other thing I can't stand is disrespect for injuries when they happen. I don't think I need to tell everyone about Irvin going down and him being booed out of the stadium. Well earlier this year I watched Austin Collie get destroyed and looked near paralyzed when he was playing the Eagles. A penalty was called and the fans were booing non stop. Several minutes after the penalty had been resolved and fans could still see Collie not moving at all, boos still rained down from the Linc and it showed how disrespectful and terrible these people are.

The fans are the worst part for me, but I can go on. I HATE Donovan McNabb. Yes, I know he isn't on the Eagles anymore, but he has been a thorn in our side for over a decade and it's been terrible watching his stupid smug little face after he does anything. I can't stand the fact that in 1998 he was booed during the draft, and yet he finds it necessary to bring it up every freaking year and look to be pitied by everyone. Shortly after, he lee-ways into talking about how everyone is racist to him. Like he's had a hard life. McNabb literally went on HBO with Bryant Gumble and actually had the balls to say it's hard to be a black QB in the NFL today because of racism and mentioned Vince Young as an example (bad idea). Oh please. This guy grew up in a predominately white community and even went to college playing for SYRACUSE. Moving on. He doesn't hold himself accountable for anything that he does. If you've ever listened to his PCs, he always complains that he "needs better weapons" or "needs a defense" or some other arbitrary thing that will draw blame away from him. He was an awful leader for them, and definitely a reason that they didn't win jack in Philly. I may not have had so disdain for the Eagles if it wasn't for McNabb. He literally used to be the only reason I didn't like the team, and it was going good that I thought after he left I would let up on the hate until I realized that...

I HATE DeSean Jackson. Have you ever seen a more annoying ***** than this kid? He's so cocky in everything that he does and he gets HOF praise in Philly like he's the second coming. Let me just bring this up. He catches a long bomb against the Cowboys, and arrogantly flaunts his way into the endzone and DROPS THE BALL AT THE 1 YARD LINE. Yes, he roasted us on that play, but good grief I wanted to jump through the screen and punch his head into pieces. I can take bragging and taunting, but this guy takes it to a whole new level. I hate his little backwards struts into the endzone. Honestly it drives me insane. I hate that everyone makes him out to be some kind of god WR when in reality all he does is run straight and catch bombs. Woop dee friggin do. He's so lauded but does he show up to ever play the Cowboys? No, not really. That may change next week but the Cowboys have proven how one dimensional he is. If I may quote the little pecker, "sting they ***"

I can not will not and refuse to EVER EVER EVER give Michael Vick any kind of praise. He is playing out of his mind this year and that's all well and fine but I won't ever forgive what he did. This is a guy that killed animals for fun and money and was tossed into jail for 2 years. Let me ask you something? Who do you know that can be convicted for 2 years for a heinous crime, and then gets to come back and make millions of dollars again? Not many. I know people who go to jail for something small and can't ever find a well paying job ever again. He served his time and that's fine but he doesn't deserve what he has right now. The worst part is it makes Andy Reid look like a genius.

I HATE Jeff Lurie. I don't even think it's been a long time thing. But I look back and see how they treated a fan favorite Brain Dawkins and how they penny pinched him and it makes me sick. Bash Jerry all you want, our owner will never treat a player like Dawkins was treated. Absolutely disgusting.

Last but not least, I HATE the Philadelphia media when it comes to the Eagles. They are literally the nega-Dallas media. Everything the Eagles do is "genius" and I'm sick and tired of hearing about it. It's like they can do no wrong. They have yet to win a Superbowl yet everyone is gumdrops and lolipops over there. Let me narrow this down a bit. I HATE Howard Eskin. He is so up Andy Reid's butt it's not even funny. He will dismiss callers and hang up on them if they have one bad thing to say about the Eagles and will then go on to say how Celek>Witten, Kolb>Romo, etc. WHAT?! **** of here you troll. Granted, everyone in Philly hates that tool, but mine is a special breed. Here's what I really HATE about it. They don't do the same for the Flyers, Sixers, or Phillies. They dish out just about as much hate as there can be for non-football teams and I don't understand the imbalance. (fwiw I'm a Flyers and Phillies fan)

It's unreal how fired up I get when they play this team. My blood boils. I have such a deep rooted passion to hate this team. The smile on my face when we swept them last year went from cheek to cheek and it was a greater feeling then how well I did in school that semester. Very sad, but oh well.

I hate this team. I hate this team. I hate the freaking Eagles so so so much.

Anyone else?

I hate them more then you I have in-laws that are iggle fans its all good, have the nephews converted thats how you get even. assimilate them all to the Silver and Blue

 

[ilovejerry]

I hate them more than I hate the giants.

the fans, the owner, the fans, the fans, and they even hired dog killa.

ahhhhh

me too used to be the Commanders but now these iggles are way worse to live with ( I live in Central NJ as well )

 

[ilovejerry]

Meh, I hate the Skins more than the Eagles, and the Steelers a fair bit more than that. Why hate a team with an empty trophy case? Hate is often just misdirected envy, nothing to envy the Eagles about. Can't bring myself to hate them, besides, they invented the cheesesteak...

Though I wouldn't mind if fans threw small dog biscuits at Vick on the sideline...

I hear ya I despise the steelers and Commanders but if you live in NJ you would know what kinda scum roots for the iggles...

Ok ... heres a question

steelers vs eagles in a SB who do you hope wins

Iggles or Steelers

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

:disseags:

 

[ilovejerry]

UPDATE 12/7/10:

So I realized there was a lot more I had to say about this team. Try and bear with me here.

I'm going to quickly revisit how much I hate McNabb. For me, there is no such thing as beating a dead horse with this guy. I was watching the Commanders-Giants game with my fraternity this weekend, and as I was watching McNabb do what he does best (choke), I overheard some Eagles fans going "Hey, McNabb why aren't you smiling? That's what you always do when you mess up!" How true this is. I know I already addressed this, but this is something I can't stand. People get on Romo's case for messing up and then doing some arbitrary thing that people have to piss and moan about, but step back for a second and look at McNabb. He made a career out of literally puking away games for the Eagles, and then just gets up and smiles, pats himself on the chest saying "my fault my fault". Everyone knows it's your fault you *******, the defender just returned your INT for a TD. In addition to his dumb post mistake smiles, his dancing is absurd. It's playoff time, and here you go out of the gate playing AIR GUITAR and dancing around like a monkey. Of course his little stooge DeSean is all in his butt as he's doing this.

McNabb Part III: Things I hate about his play: Around my friends, we refer to what Rape Fumblesberger does on the Steelers in reference to staying alive in the pocket as "The Ben Shuffle". I hate that he can't go down no matter what defenses do. It's a trait that I can't stand when it isn't on my team. McNabb's whole career was this. I would tear my hair out constantly because we couldn't bring his fat *** down. McNabb also gets praise as an accurate passer, yet he also spent much of his life throwing balls at 100 mph and launching epic dirt balls and then going into the post game press conference complaining about the need for "weapons". What a joke.

For whatever reason, I don't really have a problem with Reid, but I HATE his west coast offense. If I'm not watching a screen go for 30 yards every other play, I'm watching a QB friendly designed slant pass or roll out to throw for easy 10 yards. I refuse to believe every QB they have isn't a product of their system. They were able to make Jeff Garcia into a superstar. They were able to make AJ FEELY into a superstar. So no matter what anyone tells me about Kolb being so good or Vick being this monster QB, take them out of Philly and you have nothing.

I HATE LeSean McCoy. Why? Because his nickname is Shady. That's lame. Moving on.

I HATE their stadium. Lincoln Financial Field is a piece of garbage that breeds even more garbage from their fans. I can only hope and pray that we shutout the Eagles on Jan. 2, because when I go to that game for the first time ever, I may end up choking someone out if I have to hear their fight song. Hilariously enough, they've been "fighting" for 50 years. I guess that makes all of their fans veterans.

I HATE how Philadelphia celebrates a championship win. Now this may not be fair, because the Phillies were the first team there to win anything in 30 some years, but I'll do it anyway. When your team wins a championship, there is absolutely no reason to loot and pillage your own city. For crying out loud, I had to watch commercials of BILL COSBY telling people to stop the violence.

I HATE that my manager at work as literally never talked to me (this is actually not an exaggeration) without somehow managing to sneak something about the Cowboys in there. Oh hey can I get my paycheck? Oh sure, by the way the Cowboys are terrible and there's a new tax New Jersey passed that says all Cowboys fans have to pay them 50%!!! herp a derp derp. HUR HUR HURRRRRRRRRR. That's .00001% of the comments I deal with whenever I'm working. I blame this solely on the Eagles, therefore fitting criteria for putting it in this thread. :laugh2:

I HATE Merrill Reese. He's a radio broadcaster for Philadelphia and I have never heard a more biased talking announcer. I mean, most in Philly are, but this guy takes it to a new level. Someone try and look up a sound bite from him if I don't end up posting one. I'll walk you through a typical Eagles play compared to the visiting team:

"Vick steps back... he's looking, looking... STEPS UP ONE YARD HE'S DOWN TO THE 29 HE STEPS BACK 5 YARDSS!!!!!! HE'S RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLES NOW!!!! VICK BACK TO THE 49, HE'S LOOKING AGAIN, SPRINTING FORWARD, HE FFFIIIIIRREEESSSSSSS AND ITTSSSS CAUGHT! CAUGHT BY DESEAN JACKSON! CAUGHT CAUGHT CAUGHT!!! ITS GOOD FOR 5 YARDS AND AN EAGLES FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRST DOWN!"

Visiting Team: "Romo steps back. He throws to Witten for a touchdown."

I'm almost positive for every offensive snap the Eagles take, Merrill Reese has an aneurysm.

I think this one is more personal to me. I HATE... HATE... HATE that I have to "fear" going to the Cowboys game @the Linc in a month. I have people coming up to me not to wear Cowboys gear or try not to cheer for my team because I might get shot or beat up my drunk people. And these are all serious comments to, I actually have people that are scared for me to go to this football game. This is absurd. Honestly. I have my mother asking what kinds of tear gas or tazer guns to bring with me (said in all joking though) and to strap up with a bullet proof vest. If that's what happens to be a fan of a rival team, that it means people throw away their humanism and revert to drunkenly violent and abusive acts just for supporting a different team, there is seriously something wrong with this city.

How about the lisping fan that is always saying "Dallas I hate you " I want Dallas" I hate You" They always show this little twerp on NFL films Im sick of this clown from the 80s ....another reason to hate the iggles

 

[ilovejerry]

Yes because hunters in America hunt for food right? Because there's a necessity to feed themselves? Its not for sport or for entertainment at all right?

Please.. get outta here.

Vick killed animals and made them suffer. Hunters kill animals and make them suffer. What's the differnce?

We don't need hunters to support our population, we have slaughterhouses for that. That's much more humane right?

Calling me dumb with these arguments is laughable at best. PM me if you want to discuss it because this thread isn't about this.

Honestly mods.. if you want to delete all the posts that got off topic here, please do. I apoligize for helping to drag this thread off the OP.

I like ya Roy ......but you shouldnt have brought up Michael .. snorting or whatever he did ...isnt killing dogs

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I like ya Roy ......but you shouldnt have brought up Michael .. snorting or whatever he did ...isnt killing dogs

It wasn't my intent to question who's crime was worse. Taken in context, i was simply commenting on how if Irvin committed a felony and was allowed back in the league and even made it to the hall of fame, then Vick, who committed a felony, should be allowed back as well.

Now, if we want to discuss if either of them should have been allowed back, or any player that committs a crime.. that's another discussion.

 

[Longboysfan]

Me and my wife were having dinner at my parents' house before the Cowboys/Eagles SNF game last year and were going to watch the game afterwards with them. My sister (5 years younger than me) had invited this guy she was seeing over and he shows up wearing an Eagles hat (turns out he grew up in Philly and moved to the DFW area when he was 12). Me and my dad saw him walking up the drive, both got ****-eating grins on our faces and didnt let him in until he took off the hat and put on one of our Cowboys caps.

Luckily, he was a good sport about it

This is useless with pictures of your sister.

 

[Longboysfan]

I don't hate the fans.

They have been given very few glimpses of a team that can win it all.

Most recent - Lurie while not a bad owner - will not pay the price for those FA's that will put them in position to win.

Reid - The way they draft and manage the personnel on the team. McNabb was never going to win you a Super Bowl. The latest set of offensive wepons they have are fast but undersized. They will get hurt and miss critical time during the season. They have no depth. Knock out a front line player and there is not much behind the - see my Lurie statement above.

The Philly press gives these guys a pass every year.... Reid knows what he's doing.... Well where are the results. They got to one Super Bowl in all the time he has been there.

Pity the fans but the rest is hateable - from a football perspective.

 

[Rynie]

I hear ya I despise the steelers and Commanders but if you live in NJ you would know what kinda scum roots for the iggles...

Ok ... heres a question

steelers vs eagles in a SB who do you hope wins

Iggles or Steelers

While this would be my nightmare, I think I'd rather have the Eagles win. I've made too many bets that the Cowboys will have 6 rings before the SteAlers get 7. LOL.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I don't hate the fans.

They have been given very few glimpses of a team that can win it all.

Most recent - Lurie while not a bad owner - will not pay the price for those FA's that will put them in position to win.

Reid - The way they draft and manage the personnel on the team. McNabb was never going to win you a Super Bowl. The latest set of offensive wepons they have are fast but undersized. They will get hurt and miss critical time during the season. They have no depth. Knock out a front line player and there is not much behind the - see my Lurie statement above.

The Philly press gives these guys a pass every year.... Reid knows what he's doing.... Well where are the results. They got to one Super Bowl in all the time he has been there.

Pity the fans but the rest is hateable - from a football perspective.

There are other teams who have had FAR less success the past 20 years and their fans don't act like Eagles fans do.

Do you live in the region? Its hard to get the full scope of just how horrible and idiotic Eagles fans are without experiencing it on a daily basis.