I have a question about the defense

[rags747]

Defense lacks talent on the edges other than Lawrence and they still have weak secondary play where their best CBs might be a guy in his 2nd year and two rookies. Heath is bad, Jones is largely average at safety. Carroll is an abomination and I warned people about him but too many of the homers just thought if the FO wanted him, ergo, he must be pretty good,.

Defense lacks talent and while I don't think Marinelli is terrible, I think people overrate how good he is.

Heath I actually don't have too much problem with...he at least was around the ball and throwing his body around. Jones will not be signed to his 5th yr option hopefully, saw him pansy out of a couple of plays today.

 

[ilykdrama]

Do we have the talent to have a consistently great defense?

A yes or no will suffice

No. Plain and simple. Maybe in Byron Jones' 7th year he'll "get it," maybe Jeff Heath will show us why the front office has such faith in him. Maybe we'll see why the front office got desperate and pulled the trigger so quick on Taco instead of trading down.

 

[Macnalty]

We're a basic 4-3 zone scheme. That means smaller, faster players on the front 7 and good tacklers (or at least that's what you're supposed to do) with the DB's.
Front 7 looked slow and lethargic out there and missed tackles left and right.

Byron isn't a terrible tackler, but he's not exactly Jack Tatum. For a SS, Heath is a weak tackler.

The scheme is pretty bland and our lack of blitzing makes it even more bland.

I don't have problems with the scheme as a whole. I prefer to have 4 pass rushers and your 4 best pass rushers out there every down in today's game. We are starting to work on changing up the coverages, but today we couldn't get Semien out of rhythm. When he went with 3 step drops, the first read was wide open. When he went with 5 step drops, there was no consistent pass rush. All the while we gave up all this rushing yards as our DT's stunk today and we were missing tackles left and right.

I do think it was just one of those games at one of those stadiums where opposing teams just happen to struggle at. But we need to put our DB's in position to make plays and we could really use another playmaker along the D-Line.





YR

We also need the offense to step up and be the 12th man on defense, they were out coached today. Jason Garrett got some splaining to do....

 

[TWOK11]

No. Plain and simple. Maybe in Byron Jones' 7th year he'll "get it," maybe Jeff Heath will show us why the front office has such faith in him. Maybe we'll see why the front office got desperate and pulled the trigger so quick on Taco instead of trading down.

Then why are you crying about the guy who takes that terrible talent and turns it into consistently average/above average defenses?

You can't have it both ways

 

[RS12]

But the defense.

You start by fixing the 178 yards they gave up rushing and 9-14 third downs they converted. Defense begins and sometimes ends by stopping the run, or not.

 

[ryanbabs]

The offense just got way outplayed today and now people know how to beat us that have the tools to beat us.

But the defense. Why does it always get excuses/no focus nationally with coverage/analysis? No one ever really talks about how horrible they are. The constantly give up plays and yardage and rely on "splash" plays to get off the field. Marinelli is years ago due for a firing and I just don't understand why the draft has brought us such horrible unreliable defensive players. If you lose big games constantly, and it's because of the defense, at some point, the excuses have to stop.

With the exception of Sean Lee, I just don't we have a whole lot of talent there. It is what it is.

 

[Romotil45]

The offense just got way outplayed today and now people know how to beat us that have the tools to beat us.

But the defense. Why does it always get excuses/no focus nationally with coverage/analysis? No one ever really talks about how horrible they are. The constantly give up plays and yardage and rely on "splash" plays to get off the field. Marinelli is years ago due for a firing and I just don't understand why the draft has brought us such horrible unreliable defensive players. If you lose big games constantly, and it's because of the defense, at some point, the excuses have to stop.

Technically they were solid last year in the regular season when they played one of the softest schedules in the league. But they were out clased in the playoffs when they had to play a real team. We have problems in the secondary and pass rush and after the broncos ran it down our throats today we may have problems stopping the run against a good run team. Too small a sample size everybody played bad today even witten dropped a TD. Give it a few weeks help is coming on the D line.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I too have a question about the defense.

Do we have one?