I hope we don't draft this bust!

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Romoisgod;1959507 said:

Dude! You are deliberately missing the point. It's not that people think he is a talentless scrub. The problem is that we are more than a rb away from improving to a truly strong team. We already have a great running back, so when you have another great running back taking away carries to be admittedly marginally better, how much have you really gained. In order to do this you've given up an extra 1st round pick that could've been used to pick up the other corner that we all know we need. In the meantime you could have used the other pick to pick up a back like Mendenhall, Stewart, Jones, or various others, discussed ad nauseum, that are still great backs and would compliment, not replace, our other great back. Come on man, be sensible. :bang2:
 

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I can understand people not wanting to move up to the top 5 to get McFadden but as far as talent the kid has it and these bust posting really go overboard as some are trying to make the point of not moving up. People did the same thing with Peterson last year, oh don't move up to get him he gets injured and would be a bust. If you don't want to move up says so but to sit there and deny this guy has great talent is ridicules
 

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Doomsday101;1959584 said:
I can understand people not wanting to move up to the top 5 to get McFadden but as far as talent the kid has it and these bust posting really go overboard as some are trying to make the point of not moving up. People did the same thing with Peterson last year, oh don't move up to get him he gets injured and would be a bust. If you don't want to move up says so but to sit there and deny this guy has great talent is ridicules

Exactly.

Just wait until the kid gets into some NFL training and bulks up. He will turn into an absolute monster like Peterson.

If we get D Mac we will have the nastiest backfield in the league.
 

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CATCH17;1959588 said:
Exactly.

Just wait until the kid gets into some NFL training and bulks up. He will turn into an absolute monster like Peterson.

If we get D Mac we will have the nastiest backfield in the league.

I agree. So for me the question is would you move up to get him and I think both sides make valid points on the pros and cons. No doubt moving up to get DMac is a risky move but it is also a move that could elevate the Cowboys to the next level should it work out.
 

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Doomsday101;1959590 said:
I agree. So for me the question is would you move up to get him and I think both sides make valid points on the pros and cons. No doubt moving up to get DMac is a risky move but it is also a move that could elevate the Cowboys to the next level should it work out.

Im on the fence and to me im fine either way.

Just as long as Barber has a star on his helmet next season then you wont see any complaints from me.

Personally i'd try and get Roy Williams from Detroit and with our other 1st rounder get the best CB/RB available.

If we give up 2 1's for D Mac then thats fine with me too because we basically got Clevelands 1st for a 3rd and I think McFadden is worth a 1st and a 3rd.
 

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InmanRoshi;1959600 said:
Skinny legs.

Probably has hammer toes too.

The only problem with the "skinny legs" theory is he is not a finished product.

He is going to bulk up a lot. Especially with the guy we have training our players.

His frame is just asking to pack on serious amounts of muscle.

He gets low at the point of contact. He runs like a mad man.

If I see one more Reggie Bush comparison im going to flip.

Sure hes a risk, but they all are.

IMO hes going to be a really great player.
 

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CATCH17;1959598 said:
Im on the fence and to me im fine either way.

Just as long as Barber has a star on his helmet next season then you wont see any complaints from me.

Personally i'd try and get Roy Williams from Detroit and with our other 1st rounder get the best CB/RB available.

If we give up 2 1's for D Mac then thats fine with me too because we basically got Clevelands 1st for a 3rd and I think McFadden is worth a 1st and a 3rd.

The potential of a backfield with McFadden and Barber would make me lose my mind. The time between the draft and the beginning of the season would be way too long to maintain any sense of sanity.
 

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InmanRoshi;1959600 said:
Skinny legs.

Probably has hammer toes too.

sarcasm meter is reading off the charts... I think I might join in...

and that stiff-arm of his shows how soft he is, and that he shies away from contact...
 

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Doomsday101;1959584 said:
I can understand people not wanting to move up to the top 5 to get McFadden but as far as talent the kid has it and these bust posting really go overboard as some are trying to make the point of not moving up. People did the same thing with Peterson last year, oh don't move up to get him he gets injured and would be a bust. If you don't want to move up says so but to sit there and deny this guy has great talent is ridicules
I absolutely agree. It's like there's no middle ground for some people's thinking.
 

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Romoisgod;1959507 said:

The interesting thing about McFadden highlights is that you rarely see defenders touch him. He's either running through large holes or outracing someone to the sidelines.

I just wonder how well he's going to do breaking tackles or cutting with defenders in front of him because he really hasn't had to do much of that in college.

But it may be neither here nor there because he's going to be long gone before the Cowboys pick.
 

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tyke1doe;1959618 said:
The interesting thing about McFadden highlights is that you rarely see defenders touch him. He's either running through large holes or outracing someone to the sidelines.

I just wonder how well he's going to do breaking tackles or cutting with defenders in front of him because he really hasn't had to do much of that in college.

But it may be neither here nor there because he's going to be long gone before the Cowboys pick.

BigDave95 has watched a lot of Arkansas and McFadden, and he says that this is a misunderstanding. The fact is, it is a highlight reel, and McFadden in the open field, because of his speed, is gone. If you look at his stats for this year, 9 out of 12 of his games, his longest run was a 30 yarder. 4 of his other games, he had a 51, 56, 80, 79 yarder.

McFadden seems to be deceptive in that he seems to be a home-run hitter, but in reality, he also is a grinder. He enjoys contact and gets tough yardage, and it is pretty amazing considering teams stacked 9 in the box to stop him. The guy had a horrible QB and passing attack to complement him. McFadden at 5.6 YPC was hard earned yardage.
 

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khiladi;1959630 said:
BigDave95 has watched a lot of Arkansas and McFadden, and he says that this is a misunderstanding. The fact is, it is a highlight reel, and McFadden in the open field is gone. McFadden enjoys contact and gets tough yardage. Teams stacked 9 in the box to stop him.
If you look at his stats for this year, 9 out of 12 of his games, his longest run was a 30 yarder. 4 of his other games, he had a 51, 56, 80, 79 yarder. He only broke 30 yards once in those 9 cames, the second highest a 25 yarder.

McFadden at 5.6 YPC was hard earned yardage.

I was about to post the same thing.

I've watched this guy play over a dozen times since he was a freshman and he can lay the wood to opposing players.

Hes not easy to take down. Keep in mind he plays in the SEC too and hes not easy to take down.

I think thats the reason why I see all the Reggie Bush comparisons. People turn on a highlight film and see him blowing by people.
 

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CATCH17;1959636 said:
I think thats the reason why I see all the Reggie Bush comparisons. People turn on a highlight film and see him blowing by people.

I especially love the, McFadden is an 'outside' runner one. It is just untrue. What is even more strange regarding these comparisons is that Reggie Bush had a great passing attack that complemented him. McFadden didn't have anybody, and played against the SEC, which is strong defensively.

I absolutely love Marion Barber, and his highlight reel is freakin' amazing. But one thing that is obvious is that when Marion broke a 20 or 30 yarder, he was caught from behind because of his lack of open-field speed. People may argue that Felix would do the same thing because of speed, but those runs of Marion were in-between tackles and Felix, from my understanding, hasn't shown an ability to do that. McFadden has, and he would have been gone.
 
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