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Cajuncowboy;1193655 said:
Yeah. We've done so well with our kickers since he left.

He had one GOOD to Great kicker while he was a coach in Dallas...the rest were average at best.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1193693 said:
He had one GOOD to Great kicker while he was a coach in Dallas...the rest were average at best.

thank you, another voice of reason in here :worthy:
 

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summerisfunner;1193685 said:
I don't hate Hoffman, just hate people pimping him on here

if you guys think Vandy was stealing from Jerry's wallet, how about a coach who specializes in coaching up average Ks?

How do you feel about Offensive Line Coaches? OR DB coaches?
Kickers just need a different kind of coaching. Mostly coaching them to keep their heads on straight. Something that obviously we didn't have this year.
 

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Cajuncowboy;1193701 said:
How do you feel about Offensive Line Coaches? OR DB coaches?

1st off, Vandy needs a psychologist, not a coach, and 2nd, other teams have position coaches, only 1 team has a kicking coach

Atlanta

Hoffman

and they had to move away from his under-study, and go to the vet Hoffman never coached before
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1193693 said:
He had one GOOD to Great kicker while he was a coach in Dallas...the rest were average at best.

And that's the point. He did the most with what he had. And it kept Jerry from having to spend big bucks on kickers. And now we see how that worked out. If Hoffman had worked with Vandy, would it have been different? Who knows, but his history says it very well might have.
 

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Cajuncowboy;1193710 said:
And that's the point. He did the most with what he had. And it kept Jerry from having to spend big bucks on kickers. And now we see how that worked out. If Hoffman had worked with Vandy, would it have been different? Who knows, but his history says it very well might have.

The only thing I see is paying for a high priced kicker ala vandy, or paying for rat turd kickers and a kicking coach and getting no better for results...the reason why we went through mutliple kickers over the years.

IF we would have signed the right kicker to a high priced contract we would not be boohooing for Hoffman.

Hoffman may be the most over rated coach in dallas cowboys history IMO.
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1193630 said:
His guy did great in Atlanta this year, diddnt he?

He's done so well they went and got Anderson. That's outstanding coaching, my friends. Truly dazzling. By all means, we should offer him whatever he wants to come back. Possibly even fire Coach Parcells also. We cannot afford not to have his expertise back on the payroll.
 

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summerisfunner;1193704 said:
1st off, Vandy needs a psychologist, not a coach, and 2nd, other teams have position coaches, only 1 team has a kicking coach

Atlanta

Hoffman

and they had to move away from his under-study, and go to the vet Hoffman never coached before

Whatever, I'm not arguing about a kicking coach. All I know is that he had success here before with Average kickers. No reason to think he wouldn't again.

~stupid discussion over~
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1193714 said:
Hoffman may be the most over rated coach in dallas cowboys history IMO.

Eddie Murray strongly disagrees.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1193693 said:
He had one GOOD to Great kicker while he was a coach in Dallas...the rest were average at best.


Which kicker is the good-great one?

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, just wanna know.
 

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DragonCowboy;1193721 said:
Which kicker is the good-great one?

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, just wanna know.

Chris Boniol was not bad at all.

But the rest were pretty dreadful, went through one every few years. I still remember one of those fellows was so bright he got run over by a horse.
 

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DragonCowboy;1193721 said:
Which kicker is the good-great one?

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, just wanna know.

Richie Cunningham was the only good to great (and great is a stretch of kindness but he was pretty good while here).
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1193725 said:
Richie Cunningham was the only good to great (and great is a stretch of kindness but he was pretty good while here).

Alexander;1193724 said:
Chris Boniol was not bad at all.

But the rest were pretty dreadful, went through one every few years. I still remember one of those fellows was so bright he got run over by a horse.

summerisfunner;1193723 said:
Chris Boniol

I'm guessing Boniol and Cunningham were here before my time.

Boniol...wasn't he there during the super bowl years?

And Cunningham....around 1998?
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1193725 said:
Richie Cunningham was the only good to great (and great is a stretch of kindness but he was pretty good while here).

I thought it was Boniol, but whatever

it's funny though, since Hoffman couldn't stop them from sliding into oblivion
 

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summerisfunner;1193731 said:
I thought it was Boniol, but whatever

it's funny though, since Hoffman couldn't stop them from sliding into oblivion

what's funny is that Boniol slid into oblivion when he left via FA to the Eagles and didn't take Hoffman with him.
 

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Cajuncowboy;1193739 said:
what's funny is that Boniol slid into oblivion when he left via FA to the Eagles and didn't take Hoffman with him.

what happened to Richie?
 

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Cajuncowboy;1193739 said:
what's funny is that Boniol slid into oblivion when he left via FA to the Eagles and didn't take Hoffman with him.

Whats funny is how bad Hoffmans project in Atlanta failed. If this guy were anywhere near the miracle worker you claimed he was, there wouldnt be a cemetary with a giant hole in it.
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1193744 said:
Whats funny is how bad Hoffmans project in Atlanta failed. If this guy were anywhere near the miracle worker you claimed he was, their wouldnt be a cemetary with a giant hole in it.

Morten is a small guy ;)
 
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