I Like It When Fate Smiles On Us... Part II

[Chief]

Didnt Cosell call him Antho-ny DOR-sett?

I don't know.

I know Cosell called Commanders receiver Charlie Brown a "little monkey."

 

[bbgun]

A quote from Gil Brandt:

"We made the deal two weeks prior to the draft (contingent on Dorsett still being available, and he was)."

Ah, so it was Dorsett or bust. That's the clarification I was looking for.

 

[5Stars]

I don't know.

I know Cosell called Commanders receiver Charlie Brown a "little monkey."

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:


I remember that!! Something like "look at that little monkey run...."!!!


Tons of people hated Cosell, but I abslutely enjoyed listening to him, especially when he covered Ali's fights...


Man, those were some days....

 

[Hostile]

I don't know.

I know Cosell called Commanders receiver Charlie Brown a "little monkey."

Wasn't it Herb Mulkey the kick returner?

I could be wrong though. It was so long ago.

 

[Solnoir]

Wow, I didn't know I was that close to being a Bucs fan. Thanks for relating this bit of history. I barely knew my name when boys drafted him, but Dorsett made me a Cowboys fan. I can't imagine him in that puke orange the Bucs wore.

 

[FanSince61]

Wasn't it Herb Mulkey the kick returner?

I could be wrong though. It was so long ago.

I remember it happening, but do not remember the details. From what I can find, it was on Sept. 5, 1983, a Dallas/Washington game. It was Washington wide receiver, Alvin Garrett.

 

[Zaxor]

I remember it happening, but do not remember the details. From what I can find, it was on Sept. 5, 1983, a Dallas/Washington game. It was Washington wide receiver, Alvin Garrett.

I thought it was Garrett also... must be old age making the memory spotty

 

[Nors]

Manson Lived and Lennon died and we don't know the Reason Why....

And get The Romo in UDFA -

 

[burmafrd]

Bell was a pretty good back but he was never even close to TD.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Fate for me in 1977 was when Star Wars mania happened!!!!

:starspin :starspin :starspin

 

[Chuck 54]

In 1977 we needed a RB in the worst way. We had the 14th pick in the Draft. We traded that pick and two 2nd round picks to the Seattle Seahawks to move up to the #2 spot.

Then Tampa Bay did something beyond shocking. John McKay went complete homer and took Rickey Bell whom he recruited at RB for USC over Tony Dorsett, leaving the best player in the nation to fall right in the Cowboys laps and right into the Super Bowl.

If we had not had this happen we probably would have taken Ricky Bell and no disrespect to him, but he was no Tony Dorsett by any wild stretch of the imagination.

If we had gone another direction the best RBs in that Draft class were Wilbert Montgomery (6th), Terdell Middleton (3rd), Wendell Tyler (3rd), Rob Lytle (2nd), Horace Ivory (2nd), and Rob Carpenter (3rd, Bobby's dad). Other than Wilbert Montgomery there is not one other name on that list I would even remotely want in retrospect and that includes Ricky Bell.

Yep, I love it when fate smiles on us.

Great post, but here's a little more history. Ricky Bell was a great RB, and when Dallas moved up to number 2, they would have been very happy to have Ricky Bell. He was certainly a more physical runner than Dorsett. Playing for the lowly (and they were the worst team in the history of the NFL by record) Bucaneers, Bell rushed for almost 1300 yards and a 4.5 yard average in his third year for a horrible team where he was the only offense they had. He led the Buccaneers to their first playoff win in franchise history that season by rushing for 142 yards on 38 carries scoring 2 touchdowns against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Dorsett came in as a rookie for a SB team in Dallas, but it took him 6 seasons before he reached a 4.5 yard average.

I would never say Ricky Bell was as good as Dorsett, just as I would never say Earl Campbell was as good as Dorsett, but like Campbell, Bell was a great RB....sadly, his career and his life was cut short by heart disease....drafted in 1977, his greatest season in 1979, dead in 1984.

He was never going to be Tony Dorsett, but with a good heart, it is unlikely the Bucaneers would have seriously regretted the selection.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

wow Hos, we did get lucky that year!

 

[Everson24]

I remember it happening, but do not remember the details. From what I can find, it was on Sept. 5, 1983, a Dallas/Washington game. It was Washington wide receiver, Alvin Garrett.

It was that 1983 opening game and it was Alvin Garrett. His exact quote was "that little monkey gets open doesn't he?"

I remember thinking the same thing just before he said it.

 

[lurkercowboy]

Wasn't it Herb Mulkey the kick returner?

I could be wrong though. It was so long ago.

It was Alvin Garrett.

But anyway, getting back to fate smiling, I would nominate the following instances of fate smiling on the Cowboys. In no particular order....

Being able to draft Dorsett, Randy White, and Aikman. Even Emmitt Smith was not the first choice of the Cowboys that year. Johnson wanted someone else.
Drafting Herschel Walker and later trading him
Finding stellar free agents over the years from Drew Pearson to Romo

One time when fate frowned was in the 1985 draft. There was a lot of pre-draft talk about a guy named Jerry Rice. The 49ers traded up with the Giants and picked Rice one choice ahead of the Cowboys.

 

[Hostile]

I remember it happening, but do not remember the details. From what I can find, it was on Sept. 5, 1983, a Dallas/Washington game. It was Washington wide receiver, Alvin Garrett.

I thought it was Garrett also... must be old age making the memory spotty

It was Alvin Garrett.

But anyway, getting back to fate smiling, I would nominate the following instances of fate smiling on the Cowboys. In no particular order....

Being able to draft Dorsett, Randy White, and Aikman. Even Emmitt Smith was not the first choice of the Cowboys that year. Johnson wanted someone else.
Drafting Herschel Walker and later trading him
Finding stellar free agents over the years from Drew Pearson to Romo

One time when fate frowned was in the 1985 draft. There was a lot of pre-draft talk about a guy named Jerry Rice. The 49ers traded up with the Giants and picked Rice one choice ahead of the Cowboys.

You guys are right, it was Alvin Garrett.

 

[THUMPER]

Great post, but here's a little more history. Ricky Bell was a great RB, and when Dallas moved up to number 2, they would have been very happy to have Ricky Bell. He was certainly a more physical runner than Dorsett. Playing for the lowly (and they were the worst team in the history of the NFL by record) Bucaneers, Bell rushed for almost 1300 yards and a 4.5 yard average in his third year for a horrible team where he was the only offense they had. He led the Buccaneers to their first playoff win in franchise history that season by rushing for 142 yards on 38 carries scoring 2 touchdowns against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Dorsett came in as a rookie for a SB team in Dallas, but it took him 6 seasons before he reached a 4.5 yard average.

I would never say Ricky Bell was as good as Dorsett, just as I would never say Earl Campbell was as good as Dorsett, but like Campbell, Bell was a great RB....sadly, his career and his life was cut short by heart disease....drafted in 1977, his greatest season in 1979, dead in 1984.

He was never going to be Tony Dorsett, but with a good heart, it is unlikely the Bucaneers would have seriously regretted the selection.

You are absolutely right Wayne. Bell was a very good RB and would have had a great career if he would have gone to a better team and stayed healthy. Tragic that he died so young.

Also, there was ZERO chance that McKay would pass on Bell with the first pick so it was not much of a gamble by the Cowboys who were targeting Dorsett. McKay had recruited Bell at USC and liked his more physical running style, he would never have passed on him to take TD.