I like the Pickens trade, but I have one football-related red flag

[Pass2Run]

Consider his QB.

 

[America's Cowboy]

What did last year look like? We are dealing with old and breaking down Dak now

What kind of a team did Dak have last year? Do you take that into account?

 

[StarOfGlory]

Without reading your entire post, it remained easy to ask: who was throwing him the ball?

That has been addressed throughout the thread.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

What kind of a team did Dak have last year? Do you take that into account?

Maybe but regardless stats from 6 years ago don't really tell the story about today.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I'll take 53 thugs if it means I get to see my first Super Bowl

 

[dupree89]

I'll take 53 thugs if it means I get to see my first Super Bowl

this is honesty and i like it

 

[America's Cowboy]

Maybe but regardless stats from 6 years ago don't really tell the story about today.

How about stats from 2 seasons ago? Or is that too close?

 

[5Stars]

I'll take 53 thugs if it means I get to see my first Super Bowl

I'm down wit you dog! lol
Cowboys

 

[BoyzBlaster]

How about stats from 2 seasons ago? Or is that too close?

if you have them maybe post them. But regardless I don't remember him throwing many if any what I would call deep balls last year. And he used to be half decent at the deep ball down either sideline. But I don't remember him throwing it much recently. That was the point if my post - does he even throw it deep anymore?

 

[Pass2Run]

The other thing to consider is Pickens was generally covered by CB1. That changes now.

 

[BrassCowboy]

That has been addressed throughout the thread.

Well I did not read past the first paragraph in your post, but I do think, as most others apparently do, that the QB throwing to him apparently matters.
He is a great pickup for us. We asked for WR help, and we got it. The guy is only 24 years old .

 

[conner01]

Bro, do you know how percentages work?

Based on those numbers, Lamb has the higher drop rate.

He does have a higher drop rate. The players who get the most targets generally have the most drops. The point is drops haven’t been a big factor for Pickens. For the number of targets he doesn’t have a lot of drops. More than half his drops was one season with no QB

 

[JW82]

Pickens is already a better wr than Higgens or Smith.

 

[conner01]

The other thing to consider is Pickens was generally covered by CB1. That changes now.

Great point. Being WR2 means generally less targets but getting open is a bit easier. And ideally one is open on every pass play. It also makes it harder to double lamb because he is a deep threat

 

[conner01]

drops definitely not a problem for him. Kind of stupid to claim that.

I think some look at total number of drops rather than targets to drops. If you get a ton of tsrgets your total number of drops could look higher than a guy that literally dropped 20% of his targets

 

[Pass2Run]

Yeah, he's a little weak on shorter routes but we have guys for that.

Our TEs will be better too because of Pickens' ability to get deep.

I'm actually not sure what Pittsburgh was thinking dumping him with one more year left. I guess they wanted something in return?

If you listen to his interviews, he's obviously a relatively likeable personality. Just likes to compete.

 

[Pass2Run]

Then I hope Dak throws him the ball deep often, because he isn't as good catching intermediate routes. The numbers don't lie either way, good or bad.

Yeah, Lamb is more complete. Pickens helps stretch the field. Too bad we didn't have him and Blue for San Fran. Pickens opens it up for guys like Blue.

The doubters will soon find out. Blue has NFL talent, just like Overshown: I think Timb2 could end up being right that Blue was a first round talent by year 2. He may have some rookie struggles. Or he may not and light it up.

But, aside from han size, he can work on other weaknesses with NFL training. He makes up for small hands by being a good receiver in the passing game.

 

[Pass2Run]

Blue is like Overshown where you think the tape is lying to you because it's college or X,Y,Z

Not versus good teams. See championship game.

One thing I like about Blue is he's clutch. He comes up big in big moments. He's got some dog in him.

 

[Havic]

Dak always excels on deep throws when he has 2 good weapons at wide receiver. Look at 2019 when he had Amari Cooper and young Michael Gallup (before CeeDee was drafted). That was Dak's best throwing season (4,902 passing yards) and he excelled on his deep throws.

Dak should be able to get back to completing good deep throws now that he has two very good WR weapons in CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens.



PS: What Jerry Jones should do is go sign UDFA WR Isaiah Bond right now. That guy is a separation freak on the field. Him and Turpin would tear things up underneath. No defense would be able to stop our passing threat of CeeDee, Pickens, Turpin and Bond.

It all depends on how he has recovered from his injury. You cant throw deep or with zip when you cant plant effectively.

 

[America's Cowboy]

It all depends on how he has recovered from his injury. You cant throw deep or with zip when you cant plant effectively.

Very true. Definitely all depends on how his hamstring injury heals or not.