I like the trade.

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Wow...just wow.

It's amazing how many people we have who dont understand the draft at all.

There are genuinely people here who believe picking someone at 51, no matter that the team didnt see anyone worthy of the pick, is better than moving down.

Teams were not crazy to move up to 51 where we were. There were no must have players. If a Chad Henne type QB would have been there (like last yr) we'd have probably got a much better "value" trade. Without it, you are stuck either vastly overdrafting someone there or trusting your scouts, who say there's nobody available (save McCoy, who they rated as a 1st rd pick and he was of absolutely no use to us) worth the pick or moving down and getting what you can.

What makes it look even dumber for some is alot of the players people were pounding their chest about as guys we should pick at 51 (or even trade up for) are still available. We have 5 of the first 52 picks tomorrow and 12 overall. We are going to own the 2nd day.

I dont know what some of you expected. They had one or maybe two positions where a 2nd rd pick could have come in and maybe challenged for a starting role. When those guyss werent available, the focus should then be on getting value and creating better depth over the 2nd half of the roster, and they'll be able to do that now.
 

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dbair1967;2747309 said:
Wow...just wow.

It's amazing how many people we have who dont understand the draft at all.

There are genuinely people here who believe picking someone at 51, no matter that the team didnt see anyone worthy of the pick, is better than moving down.

Teams were not crazy to move up to 51 where we were. There were no must have players. If a Chad Henne type QB would have been there (like last yr) we'd have probably got a much better "value" trade. Without it, you are stuck either vastly overdrafting someone there or trusting your scouts, who say there's nobody available (save McCoy, who they rated as a 1st rd pick and he was of absolutely no use to us) worth the pick or moving down and getting what you can.

What makes it look even dumber for some is alot of the players people were pounding their chest about as guys we should pick at 51 (or even trade up for) are still available. We have 5 of the first 52 picks tomorrow and 12 overall. We are going to own the 2nd day.

I dont know what some of you expected. They had one or maybe two positions where a 2nd rd pick could have come in and maybe challenged for a starting role. When those guyss werent available, the focus should then be on getting value and creating better depth over the 2nd half of the roster, and they'll be able to do that now.

How about the flip side?

That Dallas got cute when a player they wanted and a player who could have helped (Unger) was sitting there at 48 or 49?

The team gets overconfident and thinks they can sit.

They guess wrong and then panic and take a net loss in the trade because they had no backup plan.
 

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stasheroo;2747350 said:
How about the flip side?

That Dallas got cute when a player they wanted and a player who could have helped (Unger) was sitting there at 48 or 49?

The team gets overconfident and thinks they can sit.

They guess wrong and then panic and take a net loss in the trade because they had no backup plan.

massive overreaction

also you are assuming he'd help us, exactly how? he'd be a backup here, just like a number of guys they can draft tomorrow...if he was a sure fire starter it'd been worth it to move up a few spots...otherwise, you take the guy if he falls in your laps

obviously they liked him, but not enough to give up something to acquire...nothing wrong with that
 

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everybody seems to be jumping over the fact that they did not even bother to have Roscoe Parish included, who the Bills are dying to get rid of. Trade would have been alot better to me then.
 

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dbair1967;2747367 said:
massive overreaction

also you are assuming he'd help us, exactly how? he'd be a backup here, just like a number of guys they can draft tomorrow...if he was a sure fire starter it'd been worth it to move up a few spots...otherwise, you take the guy if he falls in your laps

obviously they liked him, but not enough to give up something to acquire...nothing wrong with that

Again. They had no problem giving up something for a 'backup' cornerback last season and that was 'genius'.

They followed up guessing wrong with getting fleeced in the trade with the Bills.
 
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