I love Deion, but his answers on Romo vs. Rivers INTs...

Deion is a businessman, actually a glorified used car salesman that also used to be an incredible athlete.
 
tyke1doe;4258420 said:
Romo gets way more criticism because he plays for the Cowboys, a very popular, very marketable team. Rivers is getting his share of criticism, but few care comparatively speaking because the Chargers aren't as "popular" as the Cowboys.

I don't see why Cowboys fans can't understand that. :huh:

Agreed, we are America's Team we will always be held to a higher standard. Its annoying but we're always in the news.....
 
Tenkamenin;4258720 said:
Agreed, we are America's Team we will always be held to a higher standard. Its annoying but we're always in the news.....

Yeah, it's a double-edged sword. But it's the reason why there are so many Cowboys fans. Growing up in Washington, they were forced to air the Cowbosy, even when they weren't playing the Skins, because they were "America's Team."

That's how I became a convert in the heart of Commanders country. :D
 
miamicowboy21;4258352 said:
Did you hear him dance around the question Rich Eisen asked him about if that was Romo throwing all these picks like rivers the set would be on fire. Deion's answer was a joke. He said san Diego isn't Dallas or new York, and the expectation wasn't for the chargers to be in the super bowl. Who picked Dallas to go this year. Sanders should be ripping rivers apart, but instead he's giving him a pass.
He told the truth!
 
tyke1doe;4258420 said:
I don't think that's what he said. I understood him to say the reason why Phillips isn't getting criticized as heavily is that he's in a small market unlike NY or Dallas.

And that's true.

Romo gets way more criticism because he plays for the Cowboys, a very popular, very marketable team. Rivers is getting his share of criticism, but few care comparatively speaking because the Chargers aren't as "popular" as the Cowboys.

I don't see why Cowboys fans can't understand that. :huh:

Disagree Tyke and here's why. Deion is supposed to be a "football" analyst and not a "market" analyst. He is supposed to see past that part of it. Secondly, market or not, Philip Rivers was a first round draft pick from a major college. The expectations should be through the roof for Rivers but instead he puts those expectations on a undrafted QB from a small school who is quarterbacking for one of the highest profile teams in all of sports.

Look at it any way you want it, Deion has a boner for the Cowboys and his answer only magnifies this point.
 
Martice;4259141 said:
Deion is supposed to be a "football" analyst and not a "market" analyst. He is supposed to see past that part of it. Secondly, market or not, Philip Rivers was a first round draft pick from a major college. The expectations should be through the roof for Rivers but instead he puts those expectations on a undrafted QB from a small school who is quarterbacking for one of the highest profile teams in all of sports.

Not only that but his alibi for Rivers was "nobody picked the Chargers to go to the Super Bowl." Did he forget that NOBODY picked the Cowboys to go to the Super Bowl either.

He knew he sounded silly which explains why he said "let's talk Packers and Bucs!"
 
RCowboyFan;4258365 said:
First big mistake is that you love Deion, second, take anything he says seriously as an analyst. As a clown/entertainer, he is pretty entertaining at times. But as serious analyst, he has zero credibility or insight, other than maybe DB analysis.

How about it didn't like him when he was here, like him even less now (if possible)
 
tyke1doe;4258609 said:
I know what Deion has said about Romo. I'm speaking about the comments I heard him say tonight. So you're really not in a position to judge how Deion makes sense to me since you didn't hear him and don't have complete and critical information from which to criticize my interpretation.

Regardless how he feels about Romo, I interpreted him to say that Rivers isn't getting criticized like Romo because he's not in a market like Dallas. He didn't say Rivers isn't getting criticized because he didn't choke early in his career like Romo.

So I didn't judge his comments to be aimed at Romo. He was just making a comparison. And I agree with that. Romo gets criticized because the Dallas Cowboys quarterback position is judged like no other position. That's just fact.

You can hate himn all you want. And I don't particularly like his analysis of football games. But the way I interpreted his statement, he is correct.

You are not in a position to judge why Cowboys fans take issue with his comments either. Goes both ways. Seems like you are all up to defend the detractors but surprised when they go back at detractors.

Any analyst can be fair in their judgement. If you follow the OP posts, you would have understood why he said that on what context he was questioning Deion's comments. He said specifically Romo is not a QB that will take Cowboys to SB. Understand that!! Or doesn't it fit your definition unfair critisism since its against Romo?

I don't hate Deion, the analyst. He is a joke, I don't care for his analysis, but like I said he is good for good comic relief or two, so I guess in that sense, I enjoy some of his antics.

Now, if you want to go about defending the class clown or like him, then so be it. But don't ask us to pretend that he is a serious analyst or fair analyst.Again if you want to do so, do so. Don't act like those who don't buy his nonsense as someone who are clueless.
 
Deion is a grudge holding hater. If you do something that makes him not like you, he'll never like you again. Look at the whole Dez thing. The guy is a teenaged girl in a middle aged man's body.
 
Martice;4259141 said:
Disagree Tyke and here's why. Deion is supposed to be a "football" analyst and not a "market" analyst. He is supposed to see past that part of it. Secondly, market or not, Philip Rivers was a first round draft pick from a major college. The expectations should be through the roof for Rivers but instead he puts those expectations on a undrafted QB from a small school who is quarterbacking for one of the highest profile teams in all of sports.

Look at it any way you want it, Deion has a boner for the Cowboys and his answer only magnifies this point.

I really don't know what market analyst has to do with it. Eisen raises the comparison between Rivers and Romo and Deion answers it. Eisen's question wasn't a football question, so Deion's answer was a football answer.

Second, you're arguing what you think should be vs. what is.

Regardless whether you think Rivers should be criticized more heavily because he's a first-round pick, the really is that the Dallas Cowboys quarterback receives more attention than a rinky dink quarterback like Rivers, even if he is a first-round pick. If it's Peyton Manning, that's different. But it's River. He's a good quarterback, he's not in Peyton's league. And that doesn't necessarily mean because you QB the Chargers and were drafted in the first round you should shine brighter than a successful QB for the Cowboys.
 
RCowboyFan;4259329 said:
You are not in a position to judge why Cowboys fans take issue with his comments either. Goes both ways. Seems like you are all up to defend the detractors but surprised when they go back at detractors.

What comments have I taken issue with? :huh:

I didn't knock any comments Cowboys fans had about Deion other than his comments tonight, which I heard and others said they didn't.

Second, to the poster who DID hear them, I merely offered my perspective/interpretation of Deion's comments.

Please make contextual arguments not general arguments that fail upon closer scrutiny.

Any analyst can be fair in their judgement. If you follow the OP posts, you would have understood why he said that on what context he was questioning Deion's comments. He said specifically Romo is not a QB that will take Cowboys to SB. Understand that!! Or doesn't it fit your definition unfair critisism since its against Romo?

What are you talking about? Do you know what you're talking about?

Did you see the NFL Network piece? River doesn't get criticized as much as Romo because, Deion said, he's not in NY or Dallas. I interpreted that to mean he's not in a big market like Romo and Eli.

Second, I don't care what Deion's opinion of Romo leading the Cowboys to the Super Bowl is. If it happens, Deion will be proven wrong. If Romo doesn't, Deion will be proven right. I don't get all bent out of shape because some expert gives his opinion. That opinion will be validated one way or the other.

I don't hate Deion, the analyst. He is a joke, I don't care for his analysis, but like I said he is good for good comic relief or two, so I guess in that sense, I enjoy some of his antics.

For a man who doesn't care, you sure do spend a lot of time arguing about that which you have no concern. :laugh2:

Now, if you want to go about defending the class clown or like him, then so be it. But don't ask us to pretend that he is a serious analyst or fair analyst.Again if you want to do so, do so. Don't act like those who don't buy his nonsense as someone who are clueless.

You're being oversensitive now. I didn't say anyone was clueless.

Don't be so offended because someone steps outside of group-think and takes a perspective different than yours. You'll never survive in the real world with a mindset like that.

We may be Cowboys fans, but we don't have to think alike. I have my opinion, you have yours. Of course, mine are more well-thoughout out, aren't reactionary and tend to address subjects in their context. ;)
 
SDCowboy85;4259384 said:
Deion is a grudge holding hater. If you do something that makes him not like you, he'll never like you again. Look at the whole Dez thing. The guy is a teenaged girl in a middle aged man's body.

:laugh2:
 
tyke1doe;4259608 said:
What comments have I taken issue with? :huh:


We may be Cowboys fans, but we don't have to think alike. I have my opinion, you have yours. Of course, mine are more well-thoughout out, aren't reactionary and tend to address subjects in their context. ;)

Above statements sums up why anyone would have issue with you and you probably should read your original post about not understanding Cowboy fans. I guess you are not one of them. Enough said. Oh yeah, I have read enough of your posts to know, you are the "Realistic" fan type. :cool:
 
Was my favorite player growing up, a great athlete and entertainer back then.

Now he's just an entertainer.
 
RCowboyFan;4259657 said:
Above statements sums up why anyone would have issue with you and you probably should read your original post about not understanding Cowboy fans. I guess you are not one of them. Enough said. Oh yeah, I have read enough of your posts to know, you are the "Realistic" fan type. :cool:

I did read my original post. Here, I'll include it once again:


tyke1doe;4258420 said:
I don't think that's what he said. I understood him to say the reason why Phillips isn't getting criticized as heavily is that he's in a small market unlike NY or Dallas.

And that's true.

Romo gets way more criticism because he plays for the Cowboys, a very popular, very marketable team. Rivers is getting his share of criticism, but few care comparatively speaking because the Chargers aren't as "popular" as the Cowboys.

I don't see why Cowboys fans can't understand that. :huh:

How is not understanding why Cowboys fans can't see that we get more publicity because we're America's Team judging other Cowboys fans?

You're just mad because I preferred to give a different interpretation of Deion's comments, and I didn't buy into the usual and customary group think.

I'm sorry if a different opinion hurts your feelings. But you'll learn to deal with it. Really, you have no other choice. :)
 
I said this about a month back, but Deion is like the Charles Barkley of football. He's hilarious when he's not talking football, when he is he's freaking clueless.
 
Dallas Cowboys Fan;4259729 said:
I said this about a month back, but Deion is like the Charles Barkley of football. He's hilarious when he's not talking football, when he is he's freaking clueless.

The next funny thing he says will be the first.

He was a mercenary and a showboat as a player. As an analyst, he's the worst of the worst. His 21st and Prime segment is literally unwatchable. Yuck. I'd rather watch Marshall Faulk debate the merits of Tony Romo with Jamie Dukes.
 
tyke1doe;4258420 said:
I don't think that's what he said. I understood him to say the reason why Phillips isn't getting criticized as heavily is that he's in a small market unlike NY or Dallas.

And that's true.

Romo gets way more criticism because he plays for the Cowboys, a very popular, very marketable team. Rivers is getting his share of criticism, but few care comparatively speaking because the Chargers aren't as "popular" as the Cowboys.

I don't see why Cowboys fans can't understand that. :huh:

Right, but that doesn't explain why people also love to praise Rivers more than Romo too...

Throughout Romo and Rivers' careers anytime there's a (stupid) article on QB rankings, it was always a safe bet that you would find Rivers ranked numerous slots ahead of Romo... Yet when Rivers struggles, the media will look to blame it on Norv or whatever, but when Tony is struggling it's just because he's a big choker who cant win big games...

Seriously, Romo is the most unfairly scrutinized player in the NFL today, the only player close to him is Eli Manning...
 
cowboyuptx;4259840 said:
Right, but that doesn't explain why people also love to praise Rivers more than Romo too...

Throughout Romo and Rivers' careers anytime there's a (stupid) article on QB rankings, it was always a safe bet that you would find Rivers ranked numerous slots ahead of Romo... Yet when Rivers struggles, the media will look to blame it on Norv or whatever, but when Tony is struggling it's just because he's a big choker who cant win big games...

Seriously, Romo is the most unfairly scrutinized player in the NFL today, the only player close to him is Eli Manning...

This is chuch! No not church but chuch. Hypocrital media can only be hypocrites if we let them off the hook for their stupid comments...but I don't expect anything but roses for the mediots from our residential mediot apologist.

Deion has figured out that negative Cowboy talk will always guarantee his place on the NFLN. it really is a shame because that channel started off with such promise now it is virtually unwatchable.
 
miamicowboy21;4258352 said:
Did you hear him dance around the question Rich Eisen asked him about if that was Romo throwing all these picks like rivers the set would be on fire. Deion's answer was a joke. He said san Diego isn't Dallas or new York, and the expectation wasn't for the chargers to be in the super bowl. Who picked Dallas to go this year. Sanders should be ripping rivers apart, but instead he's giving him a pass.

Tell that to Chargers fans.

They want to win a Super Bowl just as badly as Cowboys fans do.

I don't think anybody questions that. It's just that there are far more Cowboys fans than Chargers fans. But, the expectations are still high. Particularly when they play in arguably the worst division in the league.








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