I prefer Dallas' draft position

[erod]

If you had said "don't fret, we can still get very good players in the draft even at 27" no one would disagree.

When you said you prefer our draft position is when you lost most people. Making the best out of 27 is fine and it helps drag out the drama of the evening by drafting later, but I would still take a top 10 pick every time.

Fair enough, but I can find plenty of enormous busts at those positions drafted high.

Did I just write "enormous busts"?

 

[jnday]

If you had said "don't fret, we can still get very good players in the draft even at 27" no one would disagree.

When you said you prefer our draft position is when you lost most people. Making the best out of 27 is fine and it helps drag out the drama of the evening by drafting later, but I would still take a top 10 pick every time.

Exactly. It is unreasonable to say that you would prefer to not have s chance at the top five talent in the draft. Sure, there are good players that are drafted in later rounds, but the reason that they are so popular is because they are the exception to the rule. When a top five pick excels , it is expected. A 5th round pick that turns out to be an all-pro makes the news because it is rare.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

I prefer 27 because when you draft at 1-10 your team sucks

 

[erod]

Exactly. It is unreasonable to say that you would prefer to not have s chance at the top five talent in the draft. Sure, there are good players that are drafted in later rounds, but the reason that they are so popular is because they are the exception to the rule. When a top five pick excels , it is expected. A 5th round pick that turns out to be an all-pro makes the news because it is rare.

But lots and lots of top five picks don't excel. And those are COSTLY mistakes.

Those picks are often ladled in frills because so much emphasis is placed on these freakish workout measurements and whatnot. They're more like lab experiments than football players sometimes. And they often bring some diva with them, too.

Sometimes the best player taken is the most obvious. There wasn't a better player in the draft last year than Zack Martin, and yet several went before him because he's just a football player, not a heptathlete at the Combine.

 

[CyberB0b]

But lots and lots of top five picks don't excel. And those are COSTLY mistakes.

That's the part I don't get. What are you risking at #1 that you aren't risking at #27? What is the cost?

 

[erod]

That's the part I don't get. What are you risking at #1 that you aren't risking at #27? What is the cost?

A wholotta money and cap space.

They'd release Mo Claiborne right now if he wasn't a $5 million cap hit.

 

[CyberB0b]

A wholotta money and cap space.

They'd release Mo Claiborne right now if he wasn't a $5 million cap hit.

Not really. Mo signed a 4 year, 16 million dollar deal. 4m a year is pedestrian. He was the 28th highest paid corner in the league in 2014. That isn't a dealbreaker for a bottom of the barrel team.

 

[erod]

Not really. Mo signed a 4 year, 16 million dollar deal. 4m a year is pedestrian. He was the 28th highest paid corner in the league in 2014. That isn't a dealbreaker for a bottom of the barrel team.

He's a $5 million cap hit this year. That's the only reason they're keeping him.

 

[CyberB0b]

He's a $5 million cap hit this year. That's the only reason they're keeping him.

First of all, I wouldn't have traded up to get him, but we did. Bad move. He still isn't crippling the franchise. Guys like Miles Austin and Jay Ratliff did that. Do you regret the Tyron Smith pick? Where would we be without him?

 

[erod]

First of all, I wouldn't have traded up to get him, but we did. Bad move. He still isn't crippling the franchise. Guys like Miles Austin and Jay Ratliff did that. Do you regret the Tyron Smith pick? Where would we be without him?

Love the pick. Jake Locker and Blaine Gabbert went before and after him, and Christian Ponder two picks later. Ouch.

Might have should have drafted JJ Watt instead?

 

[CyberB0b]

Love the pick. Jake Locker and Blaine Gabbert went before and after him, and Christian Ponder two picks later. Ouch.

Might have should have drafted JJ Watt instead?

So your point is what? Bad picks are bad picks? I think we already knew this. No one thought Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert were even first round talents, except the Jags and Titans, losers of the millennium. Anyways, they didn't really cripple the franchises financially. The Titans have nearly 30 million to spend this year, and the Jags have over 36 million.

 

[Zekeats]

I agree with everything but am hoping Tevin Coleman is still available.

 

[Nightman]

That's the part I don't get. What are you risking at #1 that you aren't risking at #27? What is the cost?

Especially since the team drafting 1st usually has the 1st pick of every round, like the 33rd

 

[Nightman]

He's a $5 million cap hit this year. That's the only reason they're keeping him.

They are keeping him because his fourth year 2.6m salary is guaranteed and that is a bargain for a starting level CB. Why would they pay him to play for someone else?

If that is an 'enormous bust' then that is a risk worth taking, considering they could have drafted Luke Kuechly or Fletcher Cox in that spot as well.

Brandon Carr's fourth year salary is 8m and his cap hit is 12.7m and he is just as unpredictable.

Bad top draft pick are less costly than bad top Free Agent signings.

 

[erod]

They are keeping him because his fourth year 2.6m salary is guaranteed and that is a bargain for a starting level CB. Why would they pay him to play for someone else?

If that is an 'enormous bust' then that is a risk worth taking, considering they could have drafted Luke Kuechly or Fletcher Cox in that spot as well.

Brandon Carr's fourth year salary is 8m and his cap hit is 12.7m and he is just as unpredictable.

Bad top draft pick are less costly than bad top Free Agent signings.

Starting level? He was the fifth best corner on the team last year.

 

[jnday]

But lots and lots of top five picks don't excel. And those are COSTLY mistakes.

Those picks are often ladled in frills because so much emphasis is placed on these freakish workout measurements and whatnot. They're more like lab experiments than football players sometimes. And they often bring some diva with them, too.

Sometimes the best player taken is the most obvious. There wasn't a better player in the draft last year than Zack Martin, and yet several went before him because he's just a football player, not a heptathlete at the Combine.

Ok, the point that I am getting from your comments us that you don't beleve enough in the scouts to want to pick in the top ten. I just find it hard to believe that picking from second tier talent is better than drafting top ten talent. Why not take less of a risk and only draft second round picks? Why not third? Less risk , right?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Bad top draft pick are less costly than bad top Free Agent signings.

Very true especially the expensive FA's.

 

[Nightman]

Starting level? He was the fifth best corner on the team last year.

He has pretty much started when healthy

 

[erod]

Ok, the point that I am getting from your comments us that you don't beleve enough in the scouts to want to pick in the top ten. I just find it hard to believe that picking from second tier talent is better than drafting top ten talent. Why not take less of a risk and only draft second round picks? Why not third? Less risk , right?

How many times.......never mind.

 

[dallasdave]

Fair enough, but I can find plenty of enormous busts at those positions drafted high.

Did I just write "enormous busts"?

Yes you did, and glad you can find plenty of them