I Really, Really don't want Ray Ray on this team and here's why

[BigR]

the cowboys have always been about class??????


i guess you forgot about "the white house"


that being said...at least we won 3 SB's with those guys :laugh2:

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

I followed the case pretty close, mainly because I had just moved to Atlanta and had passed the bar (Cobalt Lounge) about 10 minutes before it happened.

Ray Lewis wasn't convicted because his friends changed their story. He wasn't convicted because the prosecution should have never tried him in the first place because they didn't have a case. In fact, Ray turned state's evidence against his friends, but they still didn't get prosecuted.

The prosecution's evidence against Lewis mainly consisted of an ex-con who later recanted his story and said he wasn't even there and the limo driver who said he thought he heard Lewis say "I'm not going down for this" to other members of his crew in the back of the limo.

You don't bargain to that extent with people accused of double homicide unless you don't have a case. And being there in Atlanta, there was a lot of pressure for the prosecutors to go after Lewis because of racial tensions in Buckhead at the time.

I've felt this way about Lewis for a long time. It's not as bad as the Duke Lacrosse case, but it wasn't too far off.




YAKUZA

Thanks for enlightening the blind!!!!

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

I love the guy and love what he could potentially bring to the team, but I don't think it would be wise to bring him in. It's going to cost a ton for a guy on the downside of his career, and I'm not sold on the fact that even with his incredible lockerroom and on-field presence that he could make a difference.

 

[Clove]

I do think this is a classy group of guys, you have 3 or 4 hot heads, but other than that the majority of the players are normal everyday people.

 

[Rampage]

Ray Lewis doesn't want to come to the mess Jerry has created.

 

[DallasEast]

Ray Lewis doesn't want to come to the mess Jerry has created.

There is that to consider also. Some people can't be bought. He's going to get paid anyway and he may consider an extra million or so as unequal compensation for also providing the type of leadership some players desperately need.

 

[dadymat]

The Cowboys are an organization that has been built on excellence and classy players since day one. America's Team does not need to stoop so low as to sign someone who has been indicted for aggravated assault and murder.

I know he wasn't actually convicted, but it was a situation where the witnesses (Ray's friends) eventually changed their stories after they realized their millionaire friend (who had taken them for the ride with him) might end up behind bars.

I am convinced Ray was responsible for the stabbing deaths of those two men, as evidenced by his undisclosed payouts to the victim's families. As Cowboy fans, we can agree that any player that has ever attacked someone with a sharp object has no place on America's Team!

We are the classiest organization in the NFL with unquestionably the classiest, most knowledgeable, and non-bandwagon fans. Join me in getting the message loud and clear to Jerry: WE HAVE NO PLACE FOR CRIMINALS ON THE DALLAS COWBOYS!

Say no to Ray Ray! 5 Time Super Bowl Champs! How Bout Dem Cowboys! WHOOOOOO!

i couldnt take anymore after that..............:laugh2:

 

[tyke1doe]

When did Mike attack someone with a sharp object? He is my all time favorite Cowboy, news of an incident like this would be devastating to me.

How long have you been a Cowboys fan?

 

[tyke1doe]

i couldnt take anymore after that..............:laugh2:

Pst. Don't tell him to rent a copy of "North Dallas 40."

 

[Kilyin]

Didn't realize this guy was sarcasm trolling until I looked at his post history. I mean, there are people this stupid out there.

 

[links18]

We just resign his brother. Maybe he can bring a poor man's version of his brother's fire to the team. Knowing Jerry though, he would probably sign Maurice Clarrett first. BTW, Maurice Clarrett, one of Shanahan's gems.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

And you're probably also convinced OJ got 15 years for robbing some guy over sports memorabilia, rather than the double homicide he was acquitted of 15 years before.

That was a laffer.
Glad OJ got the hammer.

BUT . . .

After that verdict, one news anchor implied that some would consider it payback for the 1996 case. I heard people remark that he had it coming because he got away with it the first time.

And the idiot judge said that the verdict was not a result of the Simpson murder case back in the day. She as much implied that it did in fact have an effect on his harsh penalty.

It was a joke. O.J. was convicted as payback. No one should try to deny it.

 

[Cowboys2008]

I think Ray was a damn good player but I disagree with the reason people want him here. You don't buy leadership

Yea, yea you do. The military, by example, has been doing this since the beginning of time through promotions and reassignments. Do you think one General or Drill Sergeant is less successful with whichever group of soldiers they're leading at the moment? For the most part, they're actually quite consistent. As are most of life's leaders, regardless of where or what they're doing.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yea, yea you do. The military, by example, has been doing this since the beginning of time through promotions and reassignments. Do you think one General or Drill Sergeant is less successful with whichever group of soldiers they're leading at the moment? For the most part, they're actually quite consistent. As are most of life's leaders, regardless of where or what they're doing.

Again this is not the same as a locker room comparing the military to the NFL or any other sport? Guys coming in for 1 or 2 years are not going to lead jack. Military has laws that govern it NFL players are not court marshaled if they don't do as told. In the military you don't get 4 or 5 chances for being stupid in the NFL you do these are 2 different worlds

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I think Ray was a damn good player but I disagree with the reason people want him here. You don't buy leadership

Sure you do....

Jerry just hasn't signed one yet or brought in a coach who has those qualities.

Too many "lead by examples" on this team and no one with any nads.

 

[Doomsday101]

Sure you do....

Jerry just hasn't signed one yet or brought in a coach who has those qualities.

Too many "lead by examples" on this team and no one with any nads.

so for 1 year we are talking a guy who is entering his 14 year is going to come and everyone is going to just follow along? If Lewis was a younger player who could be with us for a while then yes he could establish himself with his teammates and take on that role he did in Balt but it does not happen overnight. You can't talk a good game and show liabilities on the football field and expect everyone to just accept he is the leader because of his past. This the same crap that was being spewed when we signed Zack Thomas “Oh he is going to come in and be the leader” It does not work that way.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

so for 1 year we are talking a guy who is entering his 14 year is going to come and everyone is going to just follow along? If Lewis was a younger player who could be with us for a while then yes he could establish himself with his teammates and take on that role he did in Balt but it does not happen overnight. You can't talk a good game and show liabilities on the football field and expect everyone to just accept he is the leader because of his past. This the same crap that was being spewed when we signed Zack Thomas “Oh he is going to come in and be the leader” It does not work that way.

Apples and Oranges....

I for one wasnt spewing that propoganda. Thomas was never a vocal guy. He always played hard and was respected. When he DID talk people listened because he was a proven veteran. If ANYONE thought Zach was going to come in and be like that then they are/were incompetent.

While I am weary of Ray Lewis and his age, a presence like him is needed. This team is getting older and their window is closing. By resigning TO and giving FLO/BIGG contracts, he is trying to win now.

And if he needs to rent some key players for a run, now is the time to do it.

Thats not saying overlooking guys in the draft or getting some players like play with intensity not soft backups who either twitch all game or brush their locks.

 

[RW31]

The Cowboys are an organization that has been built on excellence and classy players since day one.

Like TO, Pacman, Sank Johnson etc.

 

[TheCount]

Like TO, Pacman, Sank Johnson etc.

The laughability goes back way before that and TO doesn't belong in the same class as either of those guys.

 

[Doomsday101]

Apples and Oranges....

I for one wasnt spewing that propoganda. Thomas was never a vocal guy. He always played hard and was respected. When he DID talk people listened because he was a proven veteran. If ANYONE thought Zach was going to come in and be like that then they are/were incompetent.

While I am weary of Ray Lewis and his age, a presence like him is needed. This team is getting older and their window is closing. By resigning TO and giving FLO/BIGG contracts, he is trying to win now.

And if he needs to rent some key players for a run, now is the time to do it.

Thats not saying overlooking guys in the draft or getting some players like play with intensity not soft backups who either twitch all game or brush their locks.

We disagree I think Ware can and will be the leader of this team