I see only one way to improve going into next year

[Sydla]

And I say only one way because I am operating with some pretty sound assumptions:

1 - McCarthy is back
2 - Moore will likely be the OC still
3 - Dak is going nowhere
4 - Elliott is going nowhere
5 - Jerry isn't hiring a GM to craft a new vision

I think those are all safe assumptions. So the only way forward to me, is fix the offensive and defensive lines. People will say well Dak can't do this, and Elliott isn't that, and we need a better CB opposite Diggs, and we need LBs next to Parsons and we need a WR that doesn't drop the ball.

But those are all secondary problems that if you rectify or fix, won't amount to much given how we want to play if you are still running Williams and Biadasz out along the OL and try to work with the JAGs we have along the DL.

Watch both the 49ers and Cards game and you clearly saw the deficiencies along both lines. It's mindnumbing to watch year after year, this team struggle to stop the run and the Cowboys just keep bringing in JAGs like Watkins and Urban to rectify the problem. We knew hte 49ers would try to jam it down out throats and we had no answer.

And it's not just DT, we have a DE problem. Lawrence is a very good DE but he's not a true edge terror. Golston, Armstrong, Basham are just JAGs. Gregory is fine but he's not elite. And if he walks, DE is a real issue as well.

So if I were running the team, I am pouring the few resources I have into bringing in interior OL and DL in FA and premium picks in the draft. Like take the FSU DE at 24, come back in the 2nd with an OG like Zion Johnson or a DT and then come back in the 3rd with a DT (or if you went DT at 2, then someone like Lindstrom who can play OC or G).

 

[Risen Star]

The only one of the 5 you list that might not happen is Moore back. Somebody could hire him as a HC.

You are correct. We need massive improvement in our line play on both sides of the ball and that isn't happening without different players. Enough of the stiffs at DT and underacheivers at DE. We can't go into next season with LG and C being so weak. Significantly upgrade those two areas and they'll be a better team next year.

Still won't win anything. You still have #4. But they'd be better.

 

[HungryLion]

The only one of the 5 you list that might not happen is Moore back. Somebody could hire him as a HC.

You are correct. We need massive improvement in our line play on both sides of the ball and that isn't happening without different players. Enough of the stiffs at DT and underacheivers at DE. We can't go into next season with LG and C being so weak. Significantly upgrade those two areas and they'll be a better team next year.

Still won't win anything. You still have #4. But they'd be better.

The middle of this team is charmin soft.


I agree.

DT and G/C should be the top two needs in the off-season.

as far as #4 is concerned. How dare you.

 

[HungryLion]

The only one of the 5 you list that might not happen is Moore back. Somebody could hire him as a HC.

You are correct. We need massive improvement in our line play on both sides of the ball and that isn't happening without different players. Enough of the stiffs at DT and underacheivers at DE. We can't go into next season with LG and C being so weak. Significantly upgrade those two areas and they'll be a better team next year.

Still won't win anything. You still have #4. But they'd be better.

What do you think of the username


Magic Micah


Ya know. It’s Micah oriented and a play on words of the movie title.


….. it’s a work in progress.



either that HungryLion

 

[Risen Star]

The middle of this team is charmin soft.


I agree.

DT and G/C should be the top two needs in the off-season.

Yes but they won't be. Watch and see. They probably will put some attention in the interior of the OL and they'll probably have to add a DE or two to replace those that left but I'd bet they won't do much of anything at DT. We love to play with garbage there. Haven't had a real DT in ages.

 

[Sydla]

The only one of the 5 you list that might not happen is Moore back. Somebody could hire him as a HC.

You are correct. We need massive improvement in our line play on both sides of the ball and that isn't happening without different players. Enough of the stiffs at DT and underacheivers at DE. We can't go into next season with LG and C being so weak. Significantly upgrade those two areas and they'll be a better team next year.

Still won't win anything. You still have #4. But they'd be better.

I am prepared for the gaggle of joke DTs they sign.

 

[HungryLion]

And I say only one way because I am operating with some pretty sound assumptions:

1 - McCarthy is back
2 - Moore will likely be the OC still
3 - Dak is going nowhere
4 - Elliott is going nowhere
5 - Jerry isn't hiring a GM to craft a new vision

I think those are all safe assumptions. So the only way forward to me, is fix the offensive and defensive lines. People will say well Dak can't do this, and Elliott isn't that, and we need a better CB opposite Diggs, and we need LBs next to Parsons and we need a WR that doesn't drop the ball.

But those are all secondary problems that if you rectify or fix, won't amount to much given how we want to play if you are still running Williams and Biadasz out along the OL and try to work with the JAGs we have along the DL.

Watch both the 49ers and Cards game and you clearly saw the deficiencies along both lines. It's mindnumbing to watch year after year, this team struggle to stop the run and the Cowboys just keep bringing in JAGs like Watkins and Urban to rectify the problem. We knew hte 49ers would try to jam it down out throats and we had no answer.

And it's not just DT, we have a DE problem. Lawrence is a very good DE but he's not a true edge terror. Golston, Armstrong, Basham are just JAGs. Gregory is fine but he's not elite. And if he walks, DE is a real issue as well.

So if I were running the team, I am pouring the few resources I have into bringing in interior OL and DL in FA and premium picks in the draft. Like take the FSU DE at 24, come back in the 2nd with an OG like Zion Johnson or a DT and then come back in the 3rd with a DT (or if you went DT at 2, then someone like Lindstrom who can play OC or G).

I agree with you Sydla.

Honestly, way too much time and energy are spent by some teams and fans alike in worrying about “skill positions”


Win the line of scrimmage on offense and defense and you are gonna win a lot of football games. Period. That hasn’t changed since the game was invented.

 

[Risen Star]

What do you think of the username


Magic Micah


Ya know. It’s Micah oriented and a play on words of the movie title.


….. it’s a work in progress.



either that HungryLion

I prefer DakPresbust.

 

[HungryLion]

Yes but they won't be. Watch and see. They probably will put some attention in the interior of the OL and they'll probably have to add a DE or two to replace those that left but I'd bet they won't do much of anything at DT. We love to play with garbage there. Haven't had a real DT in ages.

La’Roi Glover was the last legit star at the position. How many years ago was that? Like 15?

 

[HungryLion]

I prefer DakPresbust.

Just when I thought we were getting along.

 

[Ranching]

And I say only one way because I am operating with some pretty sound assumptions:

1 - McCarthy is back
2 - Moore will likely be the OC still
3 - Dak is going nowhere
4 - Elliott is going nowhere
5 - Jerry isn't hiring a GM to craft a new vision

I think those are all safe assumptions. So the only way forward to me, is fix the offensive and defensive lines. People will say well Dak can't do this, and Elliott isn't that, and we need a better CB opposite Diggs, and we need LBs next to Parsons and we need a WR that doesn't drop the ball.

But those are all secondary problems that if you rectify or fix, won't amount to much given how we want to play if you are still running Williams and Biadasz out along the OL and try to work with the JAGs we have along the DL.

Watch both the 49ers and Cards game and you clearly saw the deficiencies along both lines. It's mindnumbing to watch year after year, this team struggle to stop the run and the Cowboys just keep bringing in JAGs like Watkins and Urban to rectify the problem. We knew hte 49ers would try to jam it down out throats and we had no answer.

And it's not just DT, we have a DE problem. Lawrence is a very good DE but he's not a true edge terror. Golston, Armstrong, Basham are just JAGs. Gregory is fine but he's not elite. And if he walks, DE is a real issue as well.

So if I were running the team, I am pouring the few resources I have into bringing in interior OL and DL in FA and premium picks in the draft. Like take the FSU DE at 24, come back in the 2nd with an OG like Zion Johnson or a DT and then come back in the 3rd with a DT (or if you went DT at 2, then someone like Lindstrom who can play OC or G).

That's a lot of ways to say one way.....just saying.

 

[goshann]

And I say only one way because I am operating with some pretty sound assumptions:

1 - McCarthy is back
2 - Moore will likely be the OC still
3 - Dak is going nowhere
4 - Elliott is going nowhere
5 - Jerry isn't hiring a GM to craft a new vision

I think those are all safe assumptions. So the only way forward to me, is fix the offensive and defensive lines. People will say well Dak can't do this, and Elliott isn't that, and we need a better CB opposite Diggs, and we need LBs next to Parsons and we need a WR that doesn't drop the ball.

But those are all secondary problems that if you rectify or fix, won't amount to much given how we want to play if you are still running Williams and Biadasz out along the OL and try to work with the JAGs we have along the DL.

Watch both the 49ers and Cards game and you clearly saw the deficiencies along both lines. It's mindnumbing to watch year after year, this team struggle to stop the run and the Cowboys just keep bringing in JAGs like Watkins and Urban to rectify the problem. We knew hte 49ers would try to jam it down out throats and we had no answer.

And it's not just DT, we have a DE problem. Lawrence is a very good DE but he's not a true edge terror. Golston, Armstrong, Basham are just JAGs. Gregory is fine but he's not elite. And if he walks, DE is a real issue as well.

So if I were running the team, I am pouring the few resources I have into bringing in interior OL and DL in FA and premium picks in the draft. Like take the FSU DE at 24, come back in the 2nd with an OG like Zion Johnson or a DT and then come back in the 3rd with a DT (or if you went DT at 2, then someone like Lindstrom who can play OC or G).

i agree but I would also change the offensive system based upon dak’s limitations. Need to place a premium on quick routes over the middle which means strong talent at TE and a slot WR like Beasley of Welker. And to figure out how to utilize pollard better as a rcvr.

dak isn’t comfortable throwing to rcvrs on the outside unless they are wise open and they were his primary target. Don’t see that changing

 

[Floatyworm]

Yes but they won't be. Watch and see. They probably will put some attention in the interior of the OL and they'll probably have to add a DE or two to replace those that left but I'd bet they won't do much of anything at DT. We love to play with garbage there. Haven't had a real DT in ages.

I keep coming back to.....what will happen with Tyron? Is he gonna be counted on for another go round? He's the key...because if he retires....that's gonna be your top priority going forward....find a left tackle. And honestly....drafting a tackle and expecting him to come in and start right away...from this draft class....is asking alot.

I keep debating if a reshuffle is possible....

LT- T. Smith
LG-Martin
C-Biadasz
RG-Collins
RT-Steele

Or maybe moving Martin out to tackle......

My ideal idea going forward would be to draft a stud like Perrion Winfrey DT Oklahoma.....

But depending on what happens in free agency...we may be drafting to fill holes just to keep this roster from sinking....

Someone said DE could be a need.....I beg to differ. I'd rather see Parsons rushing the QB. Sure seem like as soon as D-law came back....and Parsons went back to LBer.....he disappeared.

And if that were to happen...finding some LBers is going to be an issue. I know people have soured on LVE....but honestly there are just a couple of kids in the draft I'd consider upgrades Nakobe Dean LB Georgia / Brandon Smith LB Penn St......Not a big fan of ....Christian Harris ILB Alabama

So what are you gonna do??? LVE isn't the worst option....to bring back. @ least you know what your getting. And he's hitting his prime.

A lot of this depends on who we have as coordinators. Who's to say Quinn and Moore both don't move on....I'd be almost tempted to say....fire sale this bunch....get what you can for the future. And start over.

That's how little faith I have in McCarthy right now. I just can't see him scrambling to put together another staff....and fill all the holes we are gonna have because of free agency departures...and just replacing people that need to be replaced....We don't have the money nor the draft capital to make this work. The damn is breaking....

 

[32BellyOption]

Yes build both lines. A big fat run stuffing DT or two and a G and a C. Or move Collins to LG and Steele to RT and draft Tyron’s replacement. I’d consider drafting the right QB too as Dak needs to be pushed.

 

[Gaede]

Great post. Fortifying the lines is the only thing we can do to solidify our identity as a team, so we can play football the way we want to.

 

[charron]

While I think Williams won't be back keep in mind he graded out better than most other OL. Easy to say just go get a better guy, most thought McGovern was better untill he proved he was alot worse with actual game time. I agree with drafting a guy to replace him but we better address center too as he was way weaker than Williams but even if we draft them early there is no guarantee the rookies will be better.

 

[morat1959]

#3 and 5 are the reasons it will be just another year in Jerry’s world. Platinum plus guarantee….NO, zero, notta super bowl in sight! Mark it.

 

[fivetwos]

Yes, we need a LG and center that are good enough to overcome when the opposing DT knows run or pass presnap.

Even if someone is dumb enough to hire Moore as HC Jerry will talk him out if it and give him a raise.

Quinn? He will let him walk right out the door.

 

[Creeper]

I agree with your assumptions. Quinn will be gone but the baby clapper will still be here.

Dak is not going anywhere so the Cowboys need to rethink their offense - and defense. Dak has proven he cannot carry the offense so they need to get more balanced. That means running the football 25-30 times per game at least. IMO, it will take getting rid of Moore to do that but even if he stays someone needs to get in his face and make him call more running plays. Connor Williams is a free agent so LG will be a priority in the offseason. I don't see Jerry spending any big bucks on a LG so it might have to get done in the draft. Biadasz made some improvement during the season. I would give him another year to see if he continues to improve, but I would also give Farniok the opportunity to compete for the starting job.

Zeke will still be there but that doesn't mean they have to give him all the carries. They should draft another RB in the middle rounds but plan on giving Pollard at least half of the carries in 2022, if not more. The Cowboys should plan on cutting Zeke in 2023.

I do think the defense is very close. I think DLaw is actually a really good player, just not worth $21 million. There are two options at DT. One is to stand pat because you have 4 young guys in the rotation. Maybe Hill has reached his peak but Gallimore, Odighizuwa and Bohanna are still developing. Maybe it is worth giving them 1 more year to prove what they can be. Resources will be very tight so the chance of the Cowboys acquiring a top DT through FA is slim. At the same time, I don't think they will get anyone in the draft who is better than what they already have unless they get really lucky.

Then there is Randy Gregory. He has immense talent but he lacks discipline. Before the 49ers game I thought he was a priority signing in the off season. But the 49ers game convinced me his lack of discipline offsets whatever contributions he brings to the table. The question is, can he be coached to be a more disciplined player? Free agency may solve this problem for Dallas. He might get a big offer that Dallas cannot match. I think you are right about Golston. He showed me nothing. Maybe he gets better but I would not bet the farm on it. They need to get someone to back him up in case he does not improve. Armstrong is also a free agent.

The Cowboys are going to lose a lot of free agents this off season so that will dictate some of the priorities. The Cowboys will need another good draft or two. We know they are not going to sign any big free agents.

 

[McKDaddy]

LG-Martin

IF McGovern is only a RG (I can't even fathom how that can be a thing), this is the simplest, most logical solution to the G situation.

Maybe it helps the C, maybe it doesn't.