I started to have hope for Dak

[TheCoolFan]

Good post. I gave Dak credit for the Tampa game and would have loved to eat crow on him if he continued raising his game and leading the team deeper into the playoffs. But after 7 years he just doesn't have it - we would have known by now if he had it. There is a 5-year window from when a QB starts his first game for your team and you can tell if they will be good enough to lead a team to a Super Bowl. Even Eli and Flacco were able to do it within that 5-year window.

I was out on Dak after that 2019 season where he couldn't do anything against Philly with the division on the line. I was interested to see what McCarthy could do with him but after the last two playoff losses, it's clear that Dak will never have it.

 

[Big_D]

No one is dismissing Troy's SB years accomplishments, but what happened to him his first 2 years and last 4 years?

Answer the question.

What happened was the team improved WHILE the QB improved at the same time. Then once Jimmy left the end wasn’t far behind. The Cowboys in 88/89 were not a good team. 96 and beyond. The down years of a dynasty who just went on a prolific run.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

A QB competition would not make Dak better.

Might make us better though.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

What happened was the team improved WHILE the QB improved at the same time. Then once Jimmy left the end wasn’t far behind. The Cowboys in 88/89 were not a good team. 96 and beyond. The down years of a dynasty who just went on a prolific run.

That 89 team was one of the worst teams ever. No QB was going to win with that.

 

[diamonddelts]

No way, Eli could read a defense. Dak is what he is because he can’t read a defense it’s that simple. Also going against him is he is the most inconsistent player at what needs to be the most consistent position

So Danny Dimes can do better?

 

[LocoBates]

A QB competition would not make Dak better.

Certainly not, but knowing the backup is better than the starter would at least expose the FO and Coaches for sticking with the bad one.

 

[nobody]

How did Aikman do his first 2 years and last 4 career years when he didn't have weapons around him and a good Oline in front of him? Why didn't Aikman with his talent carry the team or make players around him better during those years?

The same goes for Romo.

Even they needed good weapons, a good Oline and good coaches/playcalling to help them win.

The line protected him and there were receivers open and Dak STILL failed. Stop with the no weapons. We should have won with the team's play. Dak lost it because he didn't read the defense...and he keeps making that mistake. He's a great guy. He's a fantastic leader. He's terrible at reading decent defenses. He panics. He's done.

 

[doomsday9084]

How did Aikman do his first 2 years and last 4 career years when he didn't have weapons around him and a good Oline in front of him? Why didn't Aikman with his talent carry the team or make players around him better during those years?

The same goes for Romo.

Even they needed good weapons, a good Oline and good coaches/playcalling to help them win.

Dallas has a fantastic offensive line. The people complaining about it should watch some other teams. Both of the AFC games last week had the QB's running for their lives quite regularly. Burrow was stepping through pressure on many plays, buying time and hitting receivers.

Beyond that, there has been a litany of videos coming out where there are open receivers and Dak is just throwing to the wrong guy like his near pick 6. You also have the bad throws like the long one to CeeDee. CeeDee had his man beat by several yards. Dak hits him in stride and its a TD. Instead it turned into a punt. Another 7 points off the board due to a bad throw. Not on the receiver or line.

 

[Cmac]

A QB competition would not make Dak better.

I think an OC competition would help. Quite mystified that KMoore is basically getting a pass again, outside this forum. Nobody questioning his body of work, situational football, game management......Players masking him......good and bad. Players taking All the heat.

Name a player that has improved under KMoore.......TPollard?, yet he was in a shuffling system, or taken out after a hot series of plays. Anybody remember how the Rams employed Marshall Faulk in that passing offense? And while it's easy to diminish Zeke......KMoore has expedited that decline, simply from his schemes.

 

[Cmac]

Dallas has a fantastic offensive line. The people complaining about it should watch some other teams. Both of the AFC games last week had the QB's running for their lives quite regularly. Burrow was stepping through pressure on many plays, buying time and hitting receivers.

Beyond that, there has been a litany of videos coming out where there are open receivers and Dak is just throwing to the wrong guy like his near pick 6. You also have the bad throws like the long one to CeeDee. CeeDee had his man beat by several yards. Dak hits him in stride and its a TD. Instead it turned into a punt. Another 7 points off the board due to a bad throw. Not on the receiver or line.

Quite honestly....we don't have a fantastic offensive line. It's not. We are in transition to get it better, but it ain't fantastic. Look at film.

 

[doomsday9084]

Quite honestly....we don't have a fantastic offensive line. It's not. We are in transition to get it better, but it ain't fantastic. Look at film.

When Rush was playing he had a sack rate of 4.1%. That would be good enough for 4th best in the NFL. Tony Pollard ended up 3rd in the NFL in yards per carry.

A lot of the bad film on the O line is either Zeke taking forever to hit the hole or Dak having no pocket awareness. I got a chance to watch a lot of playoff games and it was noticeable just how much better other QB's are at sliding away from pressure. I'm not someone who thinks that Rush is anything other than a backup but all of the players around him looked better just because he did the simple stuff.

 

[baltcowboy]

Dak is a good quarterback, top 12 in the NFL and one of only a handful of quarterbacks that can play in the pressure cooker in Dallas. Dak is Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins, good quarterbacks that are missing something. Dak’s arm strength is limited but I see two big issues. He is falling victim to the pressure of that big contract and his athleticism is not special.

 

[b0xZZ]

Somehow the Cowboys need to find a way to get a QB in here who can compete for the starting job. If Dak were pushed (instead of already knowing it's his job no matter what) it would help. Unfortunately it isn't Rush. Good backup QB though. We need someone who can make Dak feel the heat. Otherwise we will keep getting the usual post game speeches like we heard after the Washington and San Fran games. UGH!

Cooper was 4-0 as a starter. Isn't that audition enough? Yea he's basically Trent Dilfer but if you can have an elite defense sometimes thats good enough. Dak can't protect the ball and thats a huge problem.

 

[glimmerman]

Dak had 3 or 4 games of his career this year. And missed 5 games. Did any of it have to do with OC schemes. They said he struggles in certain coverages. They threw the book at him in games he had the games of his life.

 

[glimmerman]

Cooper was 4-0 as a starter. Isn't that audition enough? Yea he's basically Trent Dilfer but if you can have an elite defense sometimes thats good enough. Dak can't protect the ball and thats a huge problem.

He lost to egirls. He started that game. But some of that was Moore making him throw too early without establishing a run. We lose no matter who is QB when Moore does this. We ran 15 times against niners.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

A QB competition would not make Dak better.

If Dak (and staff) needs "Qb competition" to make Dak better....we're doomed. If that's the assessment, then you just need to move on already.

Playing for the Dallas Cowboys, BIG time money, ...if that doesn;t motivate you....then I don;t want ya.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

After Tampa, I thought “hey he might just pull an Eli Manning”

I don’t remember Eli having big names the super bowls he won, and we had a few.

To me Eli was very average and he still managed to step up.

Dak just can’t do it. He’s just not that guy

I just hope Jerry does not look at the money and continue to ride this guy. We need to look at the draft, FA ect

Because the way our D played any other QB comes away with points. Even if it’s just 3

You thought after the Tampa game that Dak was not going to be what he has always been?

An inconsistent mess of a QB?

I hope you learned your lesson when it comes to having hope in Dak.

 

[Einstein]

But he promised us he will fix his INT problem...

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

As I pointed out in another thread comparing Dak and Aikman...look at how Aikman did vs Carolina in 1996, 1 year removed from a super Bowl with still a bunch of HOFs on the squad.

1 td that was horribly thrown to moose and 3 ints. Almost got 200 yards of offense...

Dak over Dallas fans are the worst.

You will throw a 3 time Super Bowl champ under the bus for Dak.

Go on and tell us how you're a Cowboys fan.

 

[Whirlwin]

I don’t know what quarterback can do it all by themselves. You’re looking for a miracle that doesn’t exist. It’s ridiculous to put the blame on one person.