I started to have hope for Dak

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After Tampa, I thought “hey he might just pull an Eli Manning”

I don’t remember Eli having big names the super bowls he won, and we had a few.

To me Eli was very average and he still managed to step up.

Dak just can’t do it. He’s just not that guy

I just hope Jerry does not look at the money and continue to ride this guy. We need to look at the draft, FA ect

Because the way our D played any other QB comes away with points. Even if it’s just 3



THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!
 

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Or we think you look like an idiot comparing Aikman and Dak. You’ve lost reality! It’s sad
It's the normal go-to they use trying to defend Dak after yet another bad performance. "Well, Aikman lost that one game back in 1996", totally ignoring the fact that it happened AFTER he won 3 super bowls.
If we're going to go back 26 years trying to find something to prop Dak, we might as well go all the way back to 1979, 44 years ago, and trash Staubach for not winning super bowl 13.
 

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I didn't make up the 96 Division playoff game. It actually happened.

That was the start of our playoff futility.

Sorry if that bothers you.
It doesn't bother me at all.

You'll not be here trolling Cowboys fans as soon as Dak is gone.

Enjoy it while ya can I suppose.
 

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It's the normal go-to they use trying to defend Dak after yet another bad performance. "Well, Aikman lost that one game back in 1996", totally ignoring the fact that it happened AFTER he won 3 super bowls.
If we're going to go back 26 years trying to find something to prop Dak, we might as well go all the way back to 1979 and trash Staubach for not winning super bowl 13.
They really expose that they support Dak more than the Cowboys when they say things like that.

When Dak is gone what will they have? They can't ever be taken seriously again and nobody will ever believe that they're a Cowboys fan.

I see new accounts popping up in a couple years and some of these usernames no longer posting.
 

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It's the normal go-to they use trying to defend Dak after yet another bad performance. "Well, Aikman lost that one game back in 1996", totally ignoring the fact that it happened AFTER he won 3 super bowls.
If we're going to go back 26 years trying to find something to prop Dak, we might as well go all the way back to 1979, 44 years ago, and trash Staubach for not winning super bowl 13.
And it’s apples and oranges. Aikman started with a team that was the worst in football with no to minimal talent. Guys like Dixon were his top WR. In 1996 they were beat up and has lost talent. They were an older shell compared to 92-95. Dak was blessed with great teams. He’s had top weapons and offenses. He had a 2nd team All Pro WR and and top RB this year. This narrative that his dumb throws were because of what was around him and that it’s similar to Aikman…a guy known for being accurate and dissecting Ds …is plain disingenuous and dense. I swear Tad has multiple accounts
 

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NO1 troy was one of the most accurate passers in the nfl and top it off his arm talent was great, Dak is a good QB but has none of what troy had he's more like romo and if that continues after 2023 hwe looks to be traded if anyone would have him or just plain cut he would be a good backup but that's all. The jones family gave him money because there not gm's and the only reason and i mean the only reason jerry wears a gold jacket is because of JIMMY JOHNSON nothing he's ever did
 

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This is an illustration of a fair weather fan, not that there's anything wrong with that.
 

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I don’t know what quarterback can do it all by themselves. You’re looking for a miracle that doesn’t exist. It’s ridiculous to put the blame on one person.
When you made the thread after the Bucs game saying the Cowboys would never win anything with Dak you were right.

It's a shame that you went away from that just a couple weeks later.
 

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Someone pointed out something sobering: The remaining QB's are 3 guys on their rookie deals and Patrick Mahomes.

And yes, the Chiefs have had to sacrifice a lot because of Mahomes' deal. See Tyreke Hill.

"Fair market value" for a QB, virtually any QB, is overpriced if you want to win. This isn't really an anti-Dak thing as much as a "very very few QB's are actually worth the $40m per year all these guys are getting".
 

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Well I do agree with you that the franchise does suck and Jerry didn't do Dak any favors getting rid of Cooper and not replacing him with anybody. The running game was nil after Pollard went out. But Dak wasn't playing great when Pollard was in and he missed the receivers he did have by a mile. He just had that deer in the headlight look from the beginning. He's just too inconsistent.Do I think replacing him with another QB is going to change the big picture around here? No. I think this franchise is cursed as long as Jerry and Stephen are running things. We haven't been to a championship game in 27 years. You have to be really snake bitten to do that.
And that’s the thing with this dysfunctional ownership , it could be much worse .

This is probably about as good of situation as we can hope for considering our owners agendas and priorities.
 

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Eli finished his career in top 10 in TD’s and yards in NFL history. Historically we could present an argument he was more than average .

And we could also argue he performed and produced when on the biggest stages winning MVP in both of his Super Bowls.

He was on an average team most of his career and still produced such NFL stats. While he often looked average especially in games against us his career stats and results would beg to differ.
Eli had a great cast around him. He literally just heaved up the ball and those WR's went and fought for it.

Luckiest sob in the history of sports.
 

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When you made the thread after the Bucs game saying the Cowboys would never win anything with Dak you were right.

It's a shame that you went away from that just a couple weeks later.
Perhaps we need to define “ what winning anything “ is.

If you’re talking about championships , probably right . But then we haven’t came any closer with Romo and the rest of our QB’s since the 90’s run.

I’d argue this is probably about the most success we can expect from this dysfunctional ownership. At least until they decide to turn over football operations to someone else .

Until then 12 win seasons and a playoff win is probably about as good as it gets.
 

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Perhaps we need to define “ what winning anything “ is.

If you’re talking about championships , probably right . But then we haven’t came any closer with Romo and the rest of our QB’s since the 90’s run.

I’d argue this is probably about the most success we can expect from this dysfunctional ownership. At least until they decide to turn over football operations to someone else .
If Romo is your bar then you need a new bar.
 

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Someone pointed out something sobering: The remaining QB's are 3 guys on their rookie deals and Patrick Mahomes.

And yes, the Chiefs have had to sacrifice a lot because of Mahomes' deal. See Tyreke Hill.

"Fair market value" for a QB, virtually any QB, is overpriced if you want to win. This isn't really an anti-Dak thing as much as a "very very few QB's are actually worth the $40m per year all these guys are getting".
That is where a competent GM comes into play and constructs a contract such that you can get out from under it if the QB is a bust.
 

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Eli had a great cast around him. He literally just heaved up the ball and those WR's went and fought for it.

Luckiest sob in the history of sports.
He still had to show up . And lucky or not he also didn’t miss any games due to injury. Perhaps that was lucky as well.
 

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Our dysfunctional ownership has lowered the bar this era with his foolishness.
They've not lowered my bar personally.

I undersatnd that Jerry sucks, but we've won 3 Super Bowls with him as the owner.

We've shown that we can win despite him. We just need to take important positions (QB) seriously again. We we're literally just a QB away this year.
 

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That is where a competent GM comes into play and constructs a contract such that you can get out from under it if the QB is a bust.
In Jethro’s eyes he’s not a bust. He’s keeping his franchise interesting and relative with 12 win seasons and playoff appearances. That’s all this dysfunctional ownership needs to hype and sell his product.
 
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