I think Dak supporters on this board need to be less volatile

[Mikexike]

Money. He can still ask for a trade and pick the team he wants. However tearing down his home and rebuilding suggests otherwise.

I thought he doesn't play for money.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Money. He can still ask for a trade and pick the team he wants. However tearing down his home and rebuilding suggests otherwise.

yup again i get it but he could've got the money somewhere else, he chose to stay with Jerry and to me that was a bad decision on his part...

 

[Chasing6]

I thought he doesn't play for money.

Is agent plays for money.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

what does that have to do with how Mahomes has processed the game so far this year? you need to rest your case you dont have one so far...it would've been kicked out for lact of real evidence...if you have some facts on how a move from KC to Dallas wouldv'e helped Mahomes throw less INT's so far this year I'm all ears....

Mahommes is playing less than usual....but has been one of the best for several years. I have said before it's not his amount of heroics NOR his flubs....but the timing of them. Like when they need him most he seems to come through.

Dak doesn't seem to have that timing...and plays pretty average for...about 8 years?

Tearing up homes during his rare bad streak to prop dak? Is one reason to turn people away way from your opinion. Surely you have something else?

 

[Ranching]

I laugh at this one all the time..show me the DC that actually said..."We dont care if they run the ball all day, we are not gonna let the QB beat us" no DC ever said this because its complete idiocy....

Complete idiocy? Are you talking about this thread? Lol...
On the other hand, it might be genius....the OP was meant to incite in fighting amongst fans, it certainly did that.

 

[Chasing6]

Mahommes is playing less than usual....but has been one of the best for several years. I have said before it's not his amount of heroics NOR his flubs....but the timing of them. Like when they need him most he seems to come through.

Dak doesn't seem to have that timing...and plays pretty average for...about 8 years?

Tearing up homes during his rare bad streak to prop dak? Is one reason to turn people away way from your opinion. Surely you have something else?

No one is proping up Dak, that is why we are 3-3. Mahomes numbers are worse and he is 6-0. It is clear as day who is being propped up.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Mahommes is playing less than usual....but has been one of the best for several years. I have said before it's not his amount of heroics NOR his flubs....but the timing of them. Like when they need him most he seems to come through.

Dak doesn't seem to have that timing...and plays pretty average for...about 8 years?

Tearing up homes during his rare bad streak to prop dak? Is one reason to turn people away way from your opinion. Surely you have something else?

i said Mahomes was better over his career by facts..if you didnt read all of the conversation i am asking how bringing this years Mahomes play to Dallas would have given this years Cowboys a better record so far...what else am i missing? do you agree that Mahomes has turned the ball over more than Dak has this year so far and that he has a much better defense than Dak has so far this year? so if the offense with Mahomes this year had more turnovers than it does with Dak would this defense have stepped up and played better?

 

[Ranching]

This thread......

 

[CowboyFrog]

Complete idiocy? Are you talking about this thread? Lol...
On the other hand, it might be genius....the OP was meant to incite in fighting amongst fans, it certainly did that.

true, it has but some dont need a custome created thread to fight here, i just like to ask factual questions when i see the "If we had (insert QB here) on our team this year we would have a better record" when that QB has more turnovers than our current QB but has a way better defense than we do...i suspect there are many in this fight that dont even watch football..

 

[DenCWBY]

I dont hate Zeke or MM or even Zimm...I do question why they are here in thier current state of ability but thats why i do blame Jerry.....

This!! Dak is just another symptom suffering from a totally mis-aligned, mismanaged operation from the top. That said, Dak is not great, but average QB on a badly run team. He's not totally at fault and the only way this team ever potentially rises above its current state over the last 30 years, is when Jerry walks or is carried away. At that point, his son looks like the same mold as Jerry so good luck with that.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

i said Mahomes was better over his career by facts..if you didnt read all of the conversation i am asking how bringing this years Mahomes play to Dallas would have given this years Cowboys a better record so far...what else am i missing? do you agree that Mahomes has turned the ball over more than Dak has this year so far and that he has a much better defense than Dak has so far this year? so if the offense with Mahomes this year had more turnovers than it does with Dak would this defense have stepped up and played better?

Hard telling but I would tend to say so far, you are generally correct.

I would have to look at homes opponents, what those turnovers actually were (remember when daks epic year was because of wr miscues?) and would also wait till playoff time to deny that trade.

 

[Chasing6]

i said Mahomes was better over his career by facts..if you didnt read all of the conversation i am asking how bringing this years Mahomes play to Dallas would have given this years Cowboys a better record so far...what else am i missing? do you agree that Mahomes has turned the ball over more than Dak has this year so far and that he has a much better defense than Dak has so far this year? so if the offense with Mahomes this year had more turnovers than it does with Dak would this defense have stepped up and played better?

Dak and Mahomes stats are arguably very similar at a career level. Minus the QB's can you compare their rosters??? The Head Coach's? The FO's?

Does anyone believe that 82 year old Jerry can do 3, what I would assume are Full-Time jobs of 50+ hours a week, like KC's FO does?

Would anyone on this board want MM over Andy Reid???

What those things in mind it is absolutely amazing to me how Dak could have similar career numbers compared the Mountain.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

This!! Dak is just another symptom suffering from a totally mis-aligned, mismanaged operation from the top. That said, Dak is not great, but average QB on a badly run team. He's not totally at fault and the only way this team ever potentially rises above its current state over the last 30 years, is when Jerry walks or is carried away. At that point, his son looks like the same mold as Jerry so good luck with that.

You missed the point of that post. Frog can be critical of all that and he says it's not hate. I believe him.

But dak critics....are automatically full of hate.
It's all the same really.

 

[Chasing6]

i said Mahomes was better over his career by facts..if you didnt read all of the conversation i am asking how bringing this years Mahomes play to Dallas would have given this years Cowboys a better record so far...what else am i missing? do you agree that Mahomes has turned the ball over more than Dak has this year so far and that he has a much better defense than Dak has so far this year? so if the offense with Mahomes this year had more turnovers than it does with Dak would this defense have stepped up and played better?

So this year does not factor into Mahomes' career somehow, but Dak is awful and regressing?

Make it make sense.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Hard telling but I would tend to say so far, you are generally correct.

I would have to look at homes opponents, what those turnovers actually were (remember when daks epic year was because of wr miscues?) and would also wait till playoff time to deny that trade.

of course.... it wouldn't suprise me at all if Mahomes corrects it and has a stellar year and with that defense they would be a clear favorite to win...but as of right now with whats in black and white in the books KC is winning with other avenues, of course Mahomes is great but that team is for sure picking up his miscues and winning games.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

No one is proping up Dak, that is why we are 3-3. Mahomes numbers are worse and he is 6-0. It is clear as day who is being propped up.

Again only looking at numbers and not watching the game. Like I said....when dak led the league in interceptions....many blamed wrs.
May or may not be true, but that's what some claimed.

Not you are throwing out stats without the context.

Sometimes it's not that you erred, but how and when. His costly were homes too? How many pick sixes?

I think I'll bail out here...I suppose on the whole id take homes regardless of his current rut.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

of course.... it wouldn't suprise me at all if Mahomes corrects it and has a stellar year and with that defense they would be a clear favorite to win...but as of right now with whats in black and white in the books KC is winning with other avenues, of course Mahomes is great but that team is for sure picking up his miscues and winning games.

Like he has done for them!

A team game the relies on individuals to perform their jobs. Hopefully most do and not all of them fail at the same time...like us.

 

[Chasing6]

Again only looking at numbers and not watching the game. Like I said....when dak led the league in interceptions....many blamed wrs.
May or may not be true, but that's what some claimed.

Not you are throwing out stats without the context.

Sometimes it's not that you erred, but how and when. His costly were homes too? How many pick sixes?

I think I'll bail out here...I suppose on the whole id take homes regardless of his current rut.

Comparisons need to be fair and honest. Stats are stats. Opinions are opinions. No one can argue with an opinion.

 

[CowboyFrog]

This!! Dak is just another symptom suffering from a totally mis-aligned, mismanaged operation from the top. That said, Dak is not great, but average QB on a badly run team. He's not totally at fault and the only way this team ever potentially rises above its current state over the last 30 years, is when Jerry walks or is carried away. At that point, his son looks like the same mold as Jerry so good luck with that.

the only thing i dont know is what Dak would be in a functional FO, thats why i wanted him to leave in FA, i would've loved to see what Romo could do with a real GM also...to me this would put the heat right on Jerry if either Romo or Dak went to another team and succeeded.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Like he has done for them!

A team game the relies on individuals to perform their jobs. Hopefully most do and not all of them fail at the same time...like us.

correct!