I think Eagles win because of pass rush

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Rampage;3186223 said:
:laugh2: @ all the "Philly has a pass rush" comments. where have you guys been for the past decade? we've beaten them only 1 time in the 2nd meeting this decade(2005) and haven't scored more than 14 points in any of those 2nd meetings.

now with that said I do think we will beat them in the 2nd meeting because the Eagles new DC Sean McDormett(sp) is no Jim Johnson.
now it's one thing to see it on film and another to see it on the field. Jim Johnson used to play us pretty vanilla in the 1st meeting and than bring the house in the 2nd meetings. McDormett has been blitzing like crazy since week 1 and hasn't slowed down at all. I think offensively we will be prepared this time for the blitz since we saw it a lot last time it's just a matter of if we can execute.

defensively I think our defense is constructed to stop big play passing teams like Philly. we've already showed that against top offenses like Philly(held them to 16 and won) San Diego(held them to their lowest amount of points 20, loss) and New Orleans(held them to 17, won). the difference is this time they will have a huge key to their offense that they didn't have last time in Brian Westbrook. just like the offense it's just a matter of if we can execute again.

but than again given the recent history and the fact that Philly is a really a good team I wouldn't be suprised if we lose. though like I said I don't think that's gonna happen.

Big difference this season, no Jim Johnson.

Philly USED to have a creative knack for holding the second meeting of their NFC East opponents to less offensive output. That doesn't seem to be the case this year.
 
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McNabb's passes were off-the-mark in the last game and the Cowboys game-planned against the big plays well. This time Reid will probably go after our linebackers with shorter throws and be more methodical.

I think the Cowboys will need to control the ball and score more points than the last game to win.
 

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EGG;3186315 said:
McNabb's passes were off-the-mark in the last game and the Cowboys game-planned against the big plays well. This time Reid will probably go after our linebackers with shorter throws and be more methodical.

I think the Cowboys will need to control the ball and score more points than the last game to win.

Problem is that methodical and the Eagles don't match. They've had 4 possessions since our game 8 weeks ago in which they didn't rely on the big play to score a touchdown or field goal that started short of their own 35 yard line.

59 possessions, 4 scores without a 20+ yard play. Methodical isn't in their dictionary.

If they can't get 1/4 of the field in one play, they punt. Their offense is very dependent on the big play and turnovers to get a short field. Honestly, they remind me of Dallas in 2007, albeit with a QB who likes to throw it in the dirt a few random plays during the game.
 

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xtreme_2k;3186177 said:
Looking at all of Austinrocks posting, you would think he's not even a Cowboy fan! Nothing positive ever, oh if you ask him Tony sucks at least according to some of his postings.

Yea, I smell a troll.

Poster just joined in December, has only 30 post and never anything positive, and already predicting a loss based off pass rush. However, he never one time said anything about Philly losing their center and having to reshuffle their O line to handle our pass rush.
 
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SaltwaterServr;3186322 said:
Problem is that methodical and the Eagles don't match. They've had 4 possessions since our game 8 weeks ago in which they didn't rely on the big play to score a touchdown or field goal that started short of their own 35 yard line.

59 possessions, 4 scores without a 20+ yard play. Methodical isn't in their dictionary.

If they can't get 1/4 of the field in one play, they punt. Their offense is very dependent on the big play and turnovers to get a short field. Honestly, they remind me of Dallas in 2007, albeit with a QB who likes to throw it in the dirt a few random plays during the game.

I know that's their M.O. but I think those statistics are skewed,,, they have so few methodical drives because they have not been forced to be methodical. The WCO is very friendly to the short/intermediate passing game and the Cowboys defensive game planning may force Reid to adjust in that direction. This would make the game more of a "field position" game which isn't a bad idea since they have a much better FG kicker... of course if the Cowboys are scoring touchdowns this would be a losing game plan :)
 

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Unless a game hinges on a single kick, Dallas usually attempts to get into normal field goal distance. For that, Suisham should be quite good enough to cover the need. He was pretty consistant prior to the single Dallas game.

Target on, 'Bear...and the long pass reception against Washington was a blitz buster to Witten. I'm kind of looking forward to a rematch game much more to the liking of Tony Romo, despite game intensities.
 

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EGG;3186329 said:
I know that's their M.O. but I think those statistics are skewed,,, they have so few methodical drives because they have not been forced to be methodical. The WCO is very friendly to the short/intermediate passing game and the Cowboys defensive game planning may force Reid to adjust in that direction. This would make the game more of a "field position" game which isn't a bad idea since they have a much better FG kicker... of course if the Cowboys are scoring touchdowns this would be a losing game plan :)

Eagles are not playing a traditional WCO this season, this has been pointed out by all the talking heads ad nauseum. Although w/Westbrook back, the RB screen is going to be a bigger part of their offense again IMO.
 

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EGG;3186329 said:
I know that's their M.O. but I think those statistics are skewed,,, they have so few methodical drives because they have not been forced to be methodical. The WCO is very friendly to the short/intermediate passing game and the Cowboys defensive game planning may force Reid to adjust in that direction. This would make the game more of a "field position" game which isn't a bad idea since they have a much better FG kicker... of course if the Cowboys are scoring touchdowns this would be a losing game plan :)

Well there was a thread prior to our first meeting that showed if you could get them to try and drive the field without a big play, they couldn't do it in the first half of the season. Nothing seems to have changed.

Even in Denver, they had 10 drives from their 36 or longer.

11 play drive, no big play, ended in a fumble.
13 play drive, no big play, field goal.
8 play drive, 41 yard pass interference call, touchdown.
8 play drive, no big play, punt.

It's a pretty common theme in their offense. They'll stall out or make the mistake on their own if they have to go more than 65 yards in a controlled fashion. They're just not able to put together a long controlled drive on any consistent basis.

San Francisco, 9 drives from their 35 or shorter

10 play drive, 43 yard pass play, 15 yard PI, Touchdown
7 play drive, 39 yard pass play, interception later
8 play drive, punt
8 play drive, 59 yard pass play, touchdown
7 play drive, punt
 
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Again, the stat analysis seems goofy when you have to throw out any drive that includes a big play and how many times in those few stalled drives were they hampered by failed long-balls? What if those failed long attempts were replaced with higher percentage plays? Every team has a lowered scoring percentage when they have to drive 65yds or more.

All I'm saying is that the Iggles have been winning ball-games with their big play game plan and they had no reason to get away from it,,, since the Cowboys beat them last time they may take a different tact this time around.
 

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EGG;3186362 said:
Again, the stat analysis seems goofy when you have to throw out any drive that includes a big play and how many times in those few stalled drives were they hampered by failed long-balls? What if those failed long attempts were replaced with higher percentage plays? Every team has a lowered scoring percentage when they have to drive 65yds or more.

All I'm saying is that the Iggles have been winning ball-games with their big play game plan and they had no reason to get away from it,,, since the Cowboys beat them last time they may take a different tact this time around.

Look at it from a different angle then. They've punted 28 times in the last 59 possessions starting at their 35 or worse. Of those 28 punts, only one time did they have a play of 20+ yards anywhere in there and that was 6 games ago.

If they don't get a big play, they don't score. Pretty simple. Anytime they've tried the method your suggesting, they've ended up with a 6.8% scoring rate.

They just don't have a grind it out offense that can move the ball from their own 35 to the opposition's 30 or so for field goal range without a big play in there somewhere. Statistics bear it out.

Our bend but don't break defense designed to keep everything in front of you is the perfect foil to their offense.
 

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Austinrocks;3185625 said:
I think the pass rush of the Eagles will be enough to rattle Tony. He has played at a Pro Bowl level, even though teams are getting very close to him. The Eagles are one of the best at putting pressure on the QB. I truly hope I am wrong, but at least today, this is what I feel.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that of your 30 posts about 80% have been negative... You disregard facts like WE HAVE A BETTER DEFENSE THEN THE EAGLES! To push your agenda. Also saying Romo has horrible pocket presence when he can stretch a play and get out of danger like the best of em. YOU attack the other posters by calling them names and saying they are wearing rose covered glasses. SO WHAT IF WE ARE! SO WHAT IF WE CHOSE TO BELIEVE! IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN DONT READ OUR POSTS! Get on the believe train or get off the tracks pal.
 

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SaltwaterServr;3186370 said:
They just don't have a grind it out offense that can move the ball from their own 35 to the opposition's 30 or so for field goal range without a big play in there somewhere. Statistics bear it out.
I hate to break it to you, but that could be said about our offense as well. If Dallas doesn't get a big play, drives are eventually stopped by penalties or dropped passes. We're near the top in yards, but in the middle of the pack in scoring. If they have that problem, Dallas has it in spades.

Fact is, they've outscored us over the course of the season by a mile. Fact is, both teams have several players who've been in similar situations to Sunday, and more often than not, Dallas has come up short, while Philly has often won.

I think Dallas will eek out a win Sunday, but recent history says there's a reasonable chance they will not. For someone to get flamed because they suggest that is ridiculous. Philly's pass rush has eaten the Cowboys' lunch many times, and only a fool would be shocked if it did again on Sunday.
 

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187beatdown;3185634 said:
What pass rush? For the most part this year, it has been non existent.

Pass Rush? The only time they get pressure is all out blitzes. A couple of draws or screens and they won't be blitzing anymore. Cowboys 31-21
 

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Austinrocks;3185625 said:
I think the pass rush of the Eagles will be enough to rattle Tony. He has played at a Pro Bowl level, even though teams are getting very close to him. The Eagles are one of the best at putting pressure on the QB. I truly hope I am wrong, but at least today, this is what I feel.


Aren't you happy to be an American and voice crazy predictions like this?

ROMO will dodge them and float TD passes.....all day long!

GO COWBOYS.......WORLD CHAMPS in the making! :star:
 

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Austinrocks;3185625 said:
I think the pass rush of the Eagles will be enough to rattle Tony. He has played at a Pro Bowl level, even though teams are getting very close to him. The Eagles are one of the best at putting pressure on the QB. I truly hope I am wrong, but at least today, this is what I feel.
:lmao2:
 

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Austinrocks;3185803 said:
This board jumps on people quickly if anything they say is negative. Not really a discusion board, more like a lynching at times. I just believe the Eagles will bring the pressure and teams have been very close to Tony the last few weeks. Our OL is not what I would call stellar, not bad, but average.

Anyway, learning that being truthful does not get you anywhere on this board.
You're right, so now you can go away to a more troll-friendly board!
 

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Cole is the only guy that bothers me, it will be up to Flo to slow him down and if need be use a TE or back to chip him. I hope to see Dallas WR run many double moves on this overly aggressive secondary of Philly. All to often I see teams throw these short stop routs on Philly or the slants only to have them picked off or knocked down. Philly is way too aggressive to try and dink and dunk on them use the double moves on the outside and deep throws down the seam to the TE
 

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Austinrocks;3185803 said:
This board jumps on people quickly if anything they say is negative. Not really a discusion board, more like a lynching at times. I just believe the Eagles will bring the pressure and teams have been very close to Tony the last few weeks. Our OL is not what I would call stellar, not bad, but average.

Anyway, learning that being truthful does not get you anywhere on this board.

That's not what you believe. You believe we'll lose the game. Look at the thread title.
 

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Austinrocks;3185625 said:
I think the pass rush of the Eagles will be enough to rattle Tony. He has played at a Pro Bowl level, even though teams are getting very close to him. The Eagles are one of the best at putting pressure on the QB. I truly hope I am wrong, but at least today, this is what I feel.
You mean like last time we played them?
 
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