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[Hostile]

and HOstile, when you say imaginative, isn't a flea-flicker imaginative? the problem with that is though, it's the only imaginative play we can run that doesn't require our Offensive line to hold their blocks for more than 2 seconds, as the flea-flicker uses the art of suprise to freeze the defenders, while imaginative plays need time to set up, which needs lineman to hold their blocks, which we haven't had in awhile, this also ties into what my friend superpunk just posted above me, about the continuity of the Oline

see, this is why I'm not so concerned with who our assistant coaches are, I want to see this team add talent

Coaches can't eb the talent adds too?

Seriously?

No, I don't find flea flickers all that imaginative. Exciting when they work, yes. My idea of imaginative is multiple run schemes out of formations. Multiple pass schemes out of formations. If we line up in the I in a 2 WR set I want to send the RB out wide to the slot now and then and make a LB have to cover him in pass coverage if he can.

Like I said earlier, aren't you tired of Draw plays on 3rd and long?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yet Sparano uses pulls all the time.

Hmmm.

maybe it's not the blocking scheme then huh?

 

[superpunk]

Okay, how does that translate to Dallas and what we did? Witten was used less than last year. Granted part of it was taken up as a blocker. We threw very little to the RBs. We threw very little to a 3rd WR option. If we ran 4 WR sets it had to be awfully few.

Spreading it around more is an issue. Granted, our top three threats all registered 60 catches, but after that, what was there? Witten needs more looks, more plays designed for him. I keep remembering that little TE screen we ran against ARZ. What a thing of beauty. Not a huge deal, just a little wrinkle. I loved it.

What effect did this create for the defenses assigned to stop us? It gave them at least one extra pass rusher because they could play zone 10 to 15 yards deep with anywhere between 4 and 6 players. This provides several blitz packages. Where did we struggle? Picking up the blitz.

There are at least a couple of ways to make the 10 to 15 yards they have to cover be dangerous to them. 1 is to have a smashmouth running game that causes them to cheat LBs and safeties up for run support. We don't have that. A 2nd way would be to run screens. We suck at them. A 3rd way would be to make them extend the Zone deeper. We didn't do this near enough and when we did it was usually with 1 WR. We simply didn't do enough to make teams play us honest.

I want all of that. I don't how we are gonna improeve the screens, it's not like we could run those with Emmitt, either. I don't think we have the right linemen for it, although Rivera SHOULD be an improvement. Please let his back be ok.....

We need to develop a screen pass badly IMO if this offense is going to make a quantum leap forward. Teams simply do not have to defense for that very often.

Fast, athletic linemen can help. Smash mouth run game is much more likely in our current configuration.

I refer you to the Landry days of Preston Pearson for how dangerous it can be.

Erm......I JUST turned 22. Saturday. LOL.

No matter how hard we try, Julius is not going to become a battering ram RB. He will be most effective in space or out of the I formation on occasional sweeps. If we'd throw it to him more it would add a wrinkle to the picture. That is what I mean by passing to set up the run.

I like the thought, but Drew seems horrifying when it comes to swing passes. During the season, I remember remarking several times (as Julius sold out again to catch a pass in the flat) that he was going to get JJ murdered. I think JJ's trying to become a bruiser, and I don't know if I'm thrilled about that. More balance between Barber and JJ, perhaps? Thunder and Lightning? That's what I'd like to see.

 

[Nors]

I absolutely agree with this. So, why is there such a rush to replace Al Johnson and Rob Petitti? If you'll notice I haven't been on that bandwagon.

In fairness to the team the rush to replace C and RT has been fan motivated. I haven't seen this same rush from Valley Ranch.

If we go to season with Petitti starting and Tucker primary backup at RT/LT someone needs to be shot in Valley Ranch. It already cost us 2005 playoff berth. Lets not screw that up again.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Coaches can't eb the talent adds too?

Seriously?

No, I don't find flea flickers all that imaginative. Exciting when they work, yes. My idea of imaginative is multiple run schemes out of formations. Multiple pass schemes out of formations. If we line up in the I in a 2 WR set I want to send the RB out wide to the slot now and then and make a LB have to cover him in pass coverage if he can.

if the Oline isn't holding their blocks, and WRs aren't seperating, what does it matter how much you try to confuse the opposing D?

Like I said earlier, aren't you tired of Draw plays on 3rd and long?

not when they work, which needs the Oline to hold their blocks

 

[Hostile]

Most expansion teams suck for awhile.


Our Offense clearly needs to upgrade Oline and in particular woefull Tackle play last year.

Maybe then we can talk about establishing a running game. That Bledsoe threw for2nd most yards in Team history amazing with nill protection or running game.

Our Young 3-4 Defense is on the rise! Things are looking great for our future.

Careful, we've been talking Draw plays in here. I'll throw in something about a Delay later.

 

[superpunk]

I absolutely agree with this. So, why is there such a rush to replace Al Johnson and Rob Petitti? If you'll notice I haven't been on that bandwagon.

In fairness to the team the rush to replace C and RT has been fan motivated. I haven't seen this same rush from Valley Ranch.

I'm not on that bandwagon either, unless it's a FA bandwagon. I've got a serious man-crush on Lecharles Bentley, proven player, still young, but I doubt it will happen.

"I'll die before I let you fail."

Anyone remember that? Pettiti isn't going anywhere. I'm fully on addressing LB in the draft, finish this defense, let that be our hallmark.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Erm......I JUST turned 22. Saturday. LOL.

catching up to your hero I see :wink:

 

[Hostile]

maybe it's not the blocking scheme then huh?

Think about what you just said versus what you said before. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Think about what you just said versus what you said before. You can't have it both ways.

I've been saying continuity of the Oline, and said players

and notice I said I'm not that concerned about coaches, as much as I am about talent? I think I've been pretty straight-forward

 

[Hostile]

Spreading it around more is an issue. Granted, our top three threats all registered 60 catches, but after that, what was there? Witten needs more looks, more plays designed for him. I keep remembering that little TE screen we ran against ARZ. What a thing of beauty. Not a huge deal, just a little wrinkle. I loved it.



I want all of that. I don't how we are gonna improeve the screens, it's not like we could run those with Emmitt, either. I don't think we have the right linemen for it, although Rivera SHOULD be an improvement. Please let his back be ok.....



Fast, athletic linemen can help. Smash mouth run game is much more likely in our current configuration.



Erm......I JUST turned 22. Saturday. LOL.



I like the thought, but Drew seems horrifying when it comes to swing passes. During the season, I remember remarking several times (as Julius sold out again to catch a pass in the flat) that he was going to get JJ murdered. I think JJ's trying to become a bruiser, and I don't know if I'm thrilled about that. More balance between Barber and JJ, perhaps? Thunder and Lightning? That's what I'd like to see.

In fairness to Emmitt we didn't need to run many screens because we had an offense that could basically keep pounding on you until you were worn out. We did use Chris Warren out of the backfield quite often though and Emmitt early in his career.

I absolutely agree with the Witten commentary. Right on the money. Not used enough.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I absolutely agree with the Witten commentary. Right on the money. Not used enough.

and why is that? comes right back to the Oline

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Careful, we've been talking Draw plays in here. I'll throw in something about a Delay later.

ouch, he'll never live it down

 

[superpunk]

I absolutely agree with the Witten commentary. Right on the money. Not used enough.

I know. And now, I've got to listen to those GD Gints fans who are so enamored with Shockey.

Witten wasn't supposed to have to block so much this year!!!!!! Argh, that drove me nuts this year.

 

[superpunk]

catching up to your hero I see :wink:

I can only dream about being as much of a jackass as you.

And I mean that in the best possible way - you know that.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I can only dream about being as much of a jackass as you.

And I mean that in the best possible way - you know that.

hey, I'm an arsehole

 

[Hostile]

if the Oline isn't holding their blocks, and WRs aren't seperating, what does it matter how much you try to confuse the opposing D?



not when they work, which needs the Oline to hold their blocks

IMO, they could hold their blocks if they were allowed to move forward instead of just laterally. On top of this what scheme in the world makes you face the guy in front of you and ignore someone who lines up out wide? Granted part of that responsibility is the FB or RB, but when the OT can't pick up the most outside guy because it isn't his assignment something is wrong. When you need to pull a WR in motion so he can pick up the OLB something is wrong.

Ask yourself why other teams can pick up a blitz and we can't. There's an easy answer and it has nothing to do with the personnel.

 

[Hostile]

and why is that? comes right back to the Oline

Do you always see only 1 possible factor to any deficiency?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ask yourself why other teams can pick up a blitz and we can't. There's an easy answer and it has nothing to do with the personnel.

uh, really? who have we had at C after Stepnowski? RT after Erik Williams? RG? Flozell didn't start living up to his potential until '04

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Do you always see only 1 possible factor to any deficiency?

no, just the most glaring