I wish I had proof Romo is better than...

[MONT17]

players like Rob Johnson or Scott Mitchell. I think Romo can put up numbers but with the talent on this roster... if he didnt put up numbers, ppl would want a better player to play his position.

Chad Hutchinson fans, think HUTCH would put up better numbers than Romo in this O, and they may be right... at least Chad can complete a pass outside of the numbers!

 

[RainMan]

 

[DaBoys4Life]

what are you talking about?

 

[RainMan]

what are you talking about?

No kidding. If you're trying to make a logical case against Romo, initiating the debate by comparing him to Rob Johnson and concluding it with a Chad Hutchinson reference isn't the best way to go.

But then, debating doesn't seem to be a strength of Mont17's if his post history is any indication. For an analogy he might understand, debating seems to be his "throwing outside the numbers."

 

[DaBoys4Life]

No kidding. If you're trying to make a logical case against Romo, initiating the debate by comparing him to Rob Johnson and concluding it with a Chad Hutchinson reference isn't the best way to go.

But then, debating doesn't seem to be a strength of Mont17's if his post history is any indication. For an analogy he might understand, debating seems to be his "throwing outside the numbers."

Yeah, I know what you're saying....I'm going to bed this thread ended my night.

 

[Asklesko]

Are there even any Chad Hutchinson fans left? That guy is ancient history.

 

[Idgit]

Things slow now that the Redsk*ns are officially eliminated?

 

[Hypnotoad]

Chad Hutchinson fans, think HUTCH would put up better numbers than Romo in this O, and they may be right... at least Chad can complete a pass outside of the numbers!

Chad Hutchinson fans, think HUTCH would put up better numbers than Romo in this O

Chad Hutchinson fans

 

[AKATheRake]

Sorry OP but this is pretty bad. Romo is one of the most talented QB's in this league. The facts are this on Romo:

- Astronimical regular season stats and efficiency, almost 3 years starting or not his numbers are as substantial out there as any other QB during that span of work.

- Heck of a regular season career record, bad Decembers or not

- Uncanny ability to make a play out of nothing at any given time

- Has been to 2 pro bowls in first 3 seasons. 3rd one missed only due to injury and statistical oversight

- Last season, After Brady had pretty much the 2nd best season of any QB in the league stat wise and record wise. Threw for 39 TDs and over 4000 yards which is an MVP caliber season in any other season

- Holds the single season record for pass yards and TDs for 1 of the most storied franchises who also has 2 QB's inducted into the Hall of Fame

- Poor December track record over 2 1/2 seasons

- Has not won a playoff game in 2 1/2 years starting

- Has not had a losing record in any regular season played

- Has not won a SB

- Has not failed yet to bring his team to the playoffs

If you look throughout all 32 teams in this league, you could count the amount of starting QB's who have won a SB and are still playing in one hand. That's how hard it is to be a QB and win a super bowl. You expect that out of approx. 3 seasons of starting? Brady and Roethlesberger are rare cases and are pretty much the only 2 QB's to win 1 that quick in their careers. Marino was close but never won 1.

Rob Johnson and Chad Hutchinson should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Romo. Yes Romo needs to win playoff games and Championships if he wants to be considered one of the greats but other than Tom Brady and Peyton Manning I wouldn't even think about starting another QB in this league. Brees? He'll never win one, never. Not even if he started for this team. Above are the facts on Romo and right here is a logical opinion based off of those facts.

 

[MONT17]

I understand your point and I dont mean to 1 line you... but you act like Super Bowl Winning QBs were abundant at one point! If you did not mean to come across that way I understand but if you did, I have to ask you when could you ever count Super Bowl winning QBs on more than 1 hand?


Just wondering... I tried, couldnt count on 2 hands, Super Bowl winning QBs playing at the same time (maybe the sixties)... sorry!

 

[AKATheRake]

I understand your point and I dont mean to 1 line you... but you act like Super Bowl Winning QBs were abundant at one point! If you did not mean to come across that way I understand but if you did, I have to ask you when could you ever count Super Bowl winning QBs on more than 1 hand?


Just wondering... I tried, couldnt count on 2 hands, Super Bowl winning QBs playing at the same time (maybe the sixties)... sorry!

That's my exact point. Out of 32 teams and all of these QB's that are around, there are only 1 hand full of QB's at most that are still playing and have won a SB. I brought that point up to symbolize how rare it is to win a SB and all this playoff and SB talk that most people use to discount Romo's abilities is so unrealistic it's just not fair. Other than the 2 Mannings, Tom Brady of course and Ben Roethlisberger who else is a starting QB in this league that has won a SB?

Half those guys needed a couple of goes at it in the playoffs to even win a playoff game. But Tony gets discounted. Tony is a very debatable top 3 QB in this league. There are 32 teams so if you do the math 3/29 the guy is better than 90% of the leagues QB's.

So when you count the QB's who won SB's in the last few decades you are right, you don't even get 2 hand fulls. I'm talking about current starting QB's which is even more minute. SB winning QB's are extremely rare, that was my original point and feel Romo shouldn't be crucified to that standard at this juncture in his career. SB QB's are the rarest thing in this league. That's why BJ is on the team, even though he stinks now. The other guys in the last 10 years, Trent Dilfer is an NFL analyst now and we all know Elways story. As we also know, none of these 3 start currently.

 

[Rogerthat12]

players like Rob Johnson or Scott Mitchell. I think Romo can put up numbers but with the talent on this roster... if he didnt put up numbers, ppl would want a better player to play his position.

Chad Hutchinson fans, think HUTCH would put up better numbers than Romo in this O, and they may be right... at least Chad can complete a pass outside of the numbers!

Yikes..not sound logic on any level m8 :bang2:

 

[AKATheRake]

Yikes..not sound logic on any level m8 :bang2:

Hahaha! You got the ole ball and chain out. I think Mont ran into a Romo debate with another football fan who said these things according to his post and didn't feel he had concrete proof that Romo was better than those twirps mentioned in the OP. Well he has enough to sling back at anyone who brings up another QB than Brady and big brother Manning in this regard.

 

[RoadRunner]

Are there even any Chad Hutchinson fans left? That guy is ancient history.

That is the real question here!

 

[AKATheRake]

That is the real question here!

LOL! I read your post earlier. Maybe MONT is an older gentleman and he ran into an opposing fan making an uneducated biased accusation that MONT just wanted info to counter. His OP suggested some of that. MONT is a solid fan of this team and a decent person. Very respectful when he talks football with other zoners.

But to answer your question: Chad Hutchinson, hahahahahahahha! A never was, a never would be, a never could be. His history is worse than prehistoric, it's so irrelevant. You have to be a true fan to remember that "bad idea" because those were really terrible times for this organization. That's worse than a team like Chicago moonlighting with Rex Grossman, Brian Griese and Kyle Orton.

 

[zeroburrito]

- Last season, After Brady had pretty much the 2nd best season of any QB in the league stat wise and record wise. Threw for 39 TDs and over 4000 yards which is an MVP caliber season in any other season

actually he only threw for 36 td's with 19 ints(under a 2:1 ratio, eww). rivers is having a better year this year than romo had last year with much worse wr's and bad play from the rb.

 

[ljs44]

players like Rob Johnson or Scott Mitchell. I think Romo can put up numbers but with the talent on this roster... if he didnt put up numbers, ppl would want a better player to play his position.

Chad Hutchinson fans, think HUTCH would put up better numbers than Romo in this O, and they may be right... at least Chad can complete a pass outside of the numbers!

Step away from the drugs. Go directly to rehab

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Sorry OP but this is pretty bad. Romo is one of the most talented QB's in this league. The facts are this on Romo:

- Astronimical regular season stats and efficiency, almost 3 years starting or not his numbers are as substantial out there as any other QB during that span of work.

- Heck of a regular season career record, bad Decembers or not

- Uncanny ability to make a play out of nothing at any given time

- Has been to 2 pro bowls in first 3 seasons. 3rd one missed only due to injury and statistical oversight

- Last season, After Brady had pretty much the 2nd best season of any QB in the league stat wise and record wise. Threw for 39 TDs and over 4000 yards which is an MVP caliber season in any other season

- Holds the single season record for pass yards and TDs for 1 of the most storied franchises who also has 2 QB's inducted into the Hall of Fame

- Poor December track record over 2 1/2 seasons

- Has not won a playoff game in 2 1/2 years starting

- Has not had a losing record in any regular season played

- Has not won a SB

- Has not failed yet to bring his team to the playoffs

If you look throughout all 32 teams in this league, you could count the amount of starting QB's who have won a SB and are still playing in one hand. That's how hard it is to be a QB and win a super bowl. You expect that out of approx. 3 seasons of starting? Brady and Roethlesberger are rare cases and are pretty much the only 2 QB's to win 1 that quick in their careers. Marino was close but never won 1.

Rob Johnson and Chad Hutchinson should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Romo. Yes Romo needs to win playoff games and Championships if he wants to be considered one of the greats but other than Tom Brady and Peyton Manning I wouldn't even think about starting another QB in this league. Brees? He'll never win one, never. Not even if he started for this team. Above are the facts on Romo and right here is a logical opinion based off of those facts.

At what???

Forcing Balls and making poor decisions.

Only TALENT he has is ability to avoid the pass rush, a quick release, and vision once the pocket breaks down. Outside of that he is very average. FACT

 

[AKATheRake]

At what???

Forcing Balls and making poor decisions.

Only TALENT he has is ability to avoid the pass rush, a quick release, and vision once the pocket breaks down. Outside of that he is very average. FACT

Very good assessment and how many QB's in this league have those elements in their game? That's a lot of pressure and ideally the circumstances a defense wants to put on a QB, but Romo thrives in that environment?

Are you saying Romo is average when he gets to sit in the pocket and make his reads. A QB who averages top 3 yardage per pass attempt is average inside the pocket. As well happens to be a QB who is top 3 in TD's per attempt?

Are there INT's? Yes! Does he make bad decisions at time? Yes! Does the int's appen to all QB's who go for the TD? Yes! Does Romo have a 2:1 ratio of TD to INTs? Yes! Tony Romo is not below or even average at anything a QB does other than win playoff games. Almost 3 seasons and we still have playoff hopes. Let's see, but don't disregard his statistical production and tell me Tony Romo is average and that it is a fact. It's not a fact. Statistically Tony Romo is in the upper echelon of Qb's in this league judging by his body of work thus far. The only categories, which are very important but rarely achieved so early in ones career, are playoff victories and SB's won. Those are the facts.

 

[superonyx]

players like Rob Johnson or Scott Mitchell. I think Romo can put up numbers but with the talent on this roster... if he didnt put up numbers, ppl would want a better player to play his position.

Chad Hutchinson fans, think HUTCH would put up better numbers than Romo in this O, and they may be right... at least Chad can complete a pass outside of the numbers!

You actually titles this thread "I wish i had proof....."

How about your own eyes? Try opening your eyes and watching some football. I know these days this has become an overused remark to posters like you...........but you deserve it anyway........Thanks for posting the stupidest thing i have ever heard.