I wish there was a way we could start from scratch

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Lots of negativity here. But for all the flaws this roster has, stupid coaching cost this team at least four wins last year. I think they were closer to 12-4 than to 8-8.

Let's get a couple playmakers in the secondary, get the DT position sorted out, and get long-term, team friendly deals done with Dak and Coop and roll. I'm eager to see what Mike McCarthy and an almost totally revamped coaching staff can do. There's a new culture here.

The only recent draft decision I want a re-do of is drafting Taco over T.J. Watt. :banghead:
 

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Yeah that's what's confusing me about this post. The Cowboys problems are the same problems every team in the league has. How you handle them is how you succeed or fail.

Exactly. After Super Bowl Sunday there's 31 teams every year wishing something was done differently or happened another way.

I just understand many of us Cowboys fans are tired of it after 25 years.
 

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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.
But we have one of the most “talented” rosters in the league, or so I’ve been told.
 

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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.
There is a way. Go buy Madden 2020 and you can blow up thre franchise ocr and over, create your own super players and make all kinds of insane trades.

min the real world, only in the NBA can you really “start from scratch”
 

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I think it'll take 2-3 years to make this team a contender.

Tons of issues to be sorted out.

Agree, and that’s why overpaying for a Qb at this point seems like a waste. If we were ready to win right now and we had the cap space I wouldn’t mind overpaying as much.

Great post
 

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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.
That's it. I'm taking you to church.
You can watch me giggle at everything!
 

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Lots of negativity here. But for all the flaws this roster has, stupid coaching cost this team at least four wins last year. I think they were closer to 12-4 than to 8-8.
That is a HUGE point that many members seem to be overlooking this off season.

It's like they have convinced themselves that the Cowboys were lucky to be 8-8 last year.

You are right, the coaching staff cost this team the playoffs and it cost them their jobs (as it should have!)
 

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The Cowboys ARE starting from scratch going forward w/a complete makeover in the coaching staff. It seems longer than a decade w/Garrett & his constant dismantling of the Cowboys.

At least now the fans have something to look forward to as our team moves forward in the new era.
 

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I think we are screwed. This is how I see it playing out and I hope I am wrong.

Dak and Amari get what they want.

We lose Quinn,Byron and a bunch of other internal F.A's.

We sign no significant external f.a's. Just 2 or 3 gap fillers.

Year after year going forward we sign no significant f.a.'s

We draft one starter that ends up expecting to be the highest paid player at his position in a few years.

A bunch of reaches follow in the draft that stick around but never amount to much.

We stay avg but Jerry sells jersey's and Dak is on commercials every time I turn on the t.v.

I agree that this is probably the path they choose to take. But the problem starts at the top. The bold. Everything starts to degrade after the bold. We won't be getting any better. Just the opposite. By letting Dak walk it gives the Cowboys a lot more options. But they'll need a QB.
 

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I think we are screwed. This is how I see it playing out and I hope I am wrong.

Dak and Amari get what they want.

We lose Quinn,Byron and a bunch of other internal F.A's.

We sign no significant external f.a's. Just 2 or 3 gap fillers.

Year after year going forward we sign no significant f.a.'s

We draft one starter that ends up expecting to be the highest paid player at his position in a few years.

A bunch of reaches follow in the draft that stick around but never amount to much.

We stay avg but Jerry sells jersey's and Dak is on commercials every time I turn on the t.v.
This is the Jones MO, so I can see this playing out.
 

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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.
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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.

Your post/thread demonstrates exactly why some NFL coaches fail and why some succeed.

We've seen good coordinators become Head Coaches and fail. We know those coaches understand football but when it comes to putting together the big picture they are clueless.

You have failed the big picture test.

The Cowboys approach has been very good the few few years but that does not always equate to success.

In the draft, if there is near guaranteed super star available, then you draft that player regardless of position. Zeke was a close to a guaranteed super star as it gets.

Jaylon would have been a top 5 pick if healthy. The Cowboys gambled that he would return to 100% health. We could debate for days about his current healthy status; however, we know he was very good in 2018 and we know the coaching staff failed in 2019 with the 2-coordinator approach (Marinelli and Richard). Either the coaching failed or Jaylon regressed physically. Pick one. You can blame both.

Taco had the required ability but the coaching staff didn't get the best from him. Back in the day, Jimmy would have made him a great player or would have traded him away after a year. Again, coaching was a huge part of the problem.

Vander Esch is an unknown and it's unknown with regards to the status of his neck when drafted. They correctly evaluated his talent.

Cooper is probably the best fit as the #1 WR with Dak as the QB of any WR in the NFL. They didn't really have other options to get a similar player. He was injury most of 2019. No way to really judge him. The Cowboys offense was at the top of the statistics but their starting field position prevented them from scoring as much as needed.

DT Hill didn't have motivation problems in college or with the Cowboys. He had problems adapting to a change in coaching staffs and styles of defense in college. He was a slow learner in the NFL also. Both sets of college coaching staffs and Marinelli said he was a high-motor player.
 

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@Killerinstinct this is an excellent op.

@xwalker X, you're delusional if you think the goof we drafted last year doesn't have motivational issues.

@big dog cowboy coaching has most def been an issue but I don't think you can assume the staff change will fix everything. The roster McCarthy is going to have to work with is not going to have the same flexibility afforded to Garrett. McCarthy will have to work around the numerous poor personnel/contract decisions mentioned in the OP. Garrett also got the online in their 20s, McCarthy is getting them in their 30s.
 

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The Cowboys approach has been very good the few few years but that does not always equate to success.

No, every pick has to be a home run from day one like Dak Prescott or everything sucks. Except for most of the other teams in the NFL, Dallas is absolutely the worst.

PS: Dak sucks too.
 

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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.
seek help get a prescriptions, give up all sharp objects and weapons..facking sky falling type fans are just abut to go off deepend..step back from the cliff it isnt that bad..now I wish garrets was still here , as his staff let go new one hired same negative Nancy's around here..nothings changed
 

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I like to wonder what would happen if we did a fire sale of our talent for draft picks and let MM reset the roster over the next few offseasons.

Not saying it's a good idea but it's fun to think about all the picks and cleared up cap space and purged locker room culture.
 
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