I wish there was a way we could start from scratch

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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.
Waaaaa!!!!!! Lol
 

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Yeah that's what's confusing me about this post. The Cowboys problems are the same problems every team in the league has. How you handle them is how you succeed or fail.

That and the Head Coach you have steering the ship is so important in today’s world of free agency. I think the Cowboys are in a helluva position to do something great with McCarthey at the helm. They have proven talent and now they have a real head coach. Obviously, the front office has been an issue for 25 years but there has been improvement in personnel moves the last 4 years. You strike while the iron is hot, time to crap or get off the pot, etc. etc. Sign these guys now and attempt to make a run now. In 5 years, this all resets and rebuilding mode starts again anyway....
 

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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.
Pessimistic as hell but hard to argue against any of it.
 

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There were definitely were some poor decisions. Hopefully a new coach and a fresh start helps. You have to ride out what was already done and make better decisions moving forward. McCarthy was a good start to that.
 

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I think we are screwed. This is how I see it playing out and I hope I am wrong.

Dak and Amari get what they want.

We lose Quinn,Byron and a bunch of other internal F.A's.

We sign no significant external f.a's. Just 2 or 3 gap fillers.

Year after year going forward we sign no significant f.a.'s

We draft one starter that ends up expecting to be the highest paid player at his position in a few years.

A bunch of reaches follow in the draft that stick around but never amount to much.

We stay avg but Jerry sells jersey's and Dak is on commercials every time I turn on the t.v.
I think we have to sign Dak. I would pay him as long as it’s not cap crippling by itsself.

I would let Cooper walk via trade if I could get a first or a second out of him this year. I would try to sign Byron for top 10 money or trade him as well. (Assuming your get two tags).

Go BPA and see what you can put together. Be looking for a team to offload Tank.
 

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Did you watch the games? He had 6 and 11 completions in the playoff games to get to the Super Bowl...

Okay did you watch him when he took over because that is the only thing I was referencing? They were going to get either the number 1 or number 2 pick in that draft and everyone knew it and then suddenly they get Jimmy G and they basically go from that to winning out. For all the flak I give him about not being that great, he was still good enough to walk in the door and do that to a bottom feeder.
 

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I think we have to sign Dak. I would pay him as long as it’s not cap crippling by itsself.

I would let Cooper walk via trade if I could get a first or a second out of him this year. I would try to sign Byron for top 10 money or trade him as well. (Assuming your get two tags).

Go BPA and see what you can put together. Be looking for a team to offload Tank.
No, no BPA. We do not need another RB.
 

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Okay did you watch him when he took over because that is the only thing I was referencing? They were going to get either the number 1 or number 2 pick in that draft and everyone knew it and then suddenly they get Jimmy G and they basically go from that to winning out. For all the flak I give him about not being that great, he was still good enough to walk in the door and do that to a bottom feeder.

NFC Championship
6 pass completions
Win 37-20 ...
 

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I think we are screwed. This is how I see it playing out and I hope I am wrong.

Dak and Amari get what they want.

We lose Quinn,Byron and a bunch of other internal F.A's.

We sign no significant external f.a's. Just 2 or 3 gap fillers.

Year after year going forward we sign no significant f.a.'s

We draft one starter that ends up expecting to be the highest paid player at his position in a few years.

A bunch of reaches follow in the draft that stick around but never amount to much.

We stay avg but Jerry sells jersey's and Dak is on commercials every time I turn on the t.v.
You worry too much.

Take a break from it all. Watch some baseball. Watch the Astros get beamed by baseballs.
 

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The problem is we are committing our resources to the wrong positions by always trying to re-create the 90's.

It's an easy sell to our fan base too because I see people all the time thinking you have to have Zeke because 90's.. Gotta have a great WR cause 90's.. Got use 1st round picks on every oline position or they are terrible because 90's..


Meanwhile the defense is just something we throw out there that is similar to a special teams strategy of bend don't break.

Agree with all of that except the oline (not the current one). Fun fact: From 1990 through 1999 there wasn't a single first round pick on our Offensive line. We had Larry Allen as the highest draft pick by us (2nd round). There were two other 2nd rounders drafted by other teams that played during that time frame (Kennard and Donaldson). Flozell Adams was also a 2nd rounder but in 1999.

That development (Got to use 1st round picks on every online position...) was something born out of necessity cause Garrett I think... I guess it wasn't good enough to have Zeke and great WR's to make it work for him.
 

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NFC Championship
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Win 37-20 ...

Record before trading for Jimmy G and having him start: 1-10
Record after starting him:5-0
They made no other moves

Also if they cant stop your running game.... why pass it? If you are up 24 (and I think it was more than that)....why pass it? Passing the ball pointlessly and stopping the clock is how the Falcons lost the SB, its how SF lost the SB.
 

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Record before trading for Jimmy G and having him start: 1-10
Record after starting him:5-0
They made no other moves

Also if they cant stop your running game.... why pass it? If you are up 24 (and I think it was more than that)....why pass it? Passing the ball pointlessly and stopping the clock is how the Falcons lost the SB, its how SF lost the SB.
It is. Neither made any sense.
 

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Record before trading for Jimmy G and having him start: 1-10
Record after starting him:5-0
They made no other moves

Also if they cant stop your running game.... why pass it? If you are up 24 (and I think it was more than that)....why pass it? Passing the ball pointlessly and stopping the clock is how the Falcons lost the SB, its how SF lost the SB.

Kyle Shanahan became the HC in 2017. Same year they got Graroppolo.

6 pass completions...
 

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This is all part of the Jerry Jones PROCESS. He secretly calculates his every move to rebuild this franchise into the football dynasty he envisions. The guy has become so good at fooling everyone else, he fools himself more times than not.
He hasn't been good at fooling me or a lot of people but unfortunately he has fooled masses of Cowboys fans for a quarter century.
 

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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.


That's just Jerry cutting his teeth on personnel.
Give him 20 more years and watch us improve!
 

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Well hey, atleast the Astros are a model franchise. They do everything by the book.

And at least yo mama no longer frequents city parks.

What do the Astros have to do with the Cowboys and the bad personnel moves with which you support Jerry?
 

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Lots of negativity here. But for all the flaws this roster has, stupid coaching cost this team at least four wins last year. I think they were closer to 12-4 than to 8-8.

Let's get a couple playmakers in the secondary, get the DT position sorted out, and get long-term, team friendly deals done with Dak and Coop and roll. I'm eager to see what Mike McCarthy and an almost totally revamped coaching staff can do. There's a new culture here.

The only recent draft decision I want a re-do of is drafting Taco over T.J. Watt. :banghead:

yep. As much as we all love 82 it was refreshing reading McCarthy thought Witten was too high on himself and that he won’t be back
 

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As mentioned before, every team has had to deal with personal decisions that didn't pan out the way they planned and hindsight makes them look like bad decisions (this gives purpose to all of the draft do-over articles written every year). And dealing with the salary cap is a problem for every team, especially when your players have individual success (see below)

From my perspective, it isn't poor personnel decisions that has held this team back, its lack of coaching and poor schemes. Garrett has arguably had one of the most talented rosters of any head coach during his tenure. He had the most drafted pro-bowlers, including over 20 pro-bowlers (one at every position accept safety), 9 first team all-pro players, 4 future HOF players, (Witten, Ware, Martin, Smith), 1 who is at least worthy of HOF discussion (Romo), and 2 more with potential depending on how the rest of the careers turn out (T-beard, Zeke). He has had 2 QBs that were/are top 5-10 statistically in almost every category when compared to their peers during their tenure (getting both for only 1 4th round compensatory pick). All of this, while picking outside of the top 15 in 11 of the last 15 drafts (highest picks for Garrett - 4 (Zeke) 6 (Claiborne) 9 (T Smith).

All of this talent and only having 3 playoff appearances in 8 years and 2 wildcard wins is direct indictment on the coaching. iMO, all of this talk about this teams shortcomings are because of Romo, Dak, Zeke, the defense, special teams, etc., is misguided. Lack of quality coaching, antiquated schemes and lack of game planning are the biggest reasons for the Cowboys failures the last 8-10 years.

Jerry, has done a relatively great job with his personnel moves lately (by listening to his scouts) , its the fact that he needs ALL of the credit for his teams success and chose inadequate coaches that has mired this team in averageness.

I will admit, listening to Marinelli in the draft room prevented Jerry from having better personal success on draft day.
 

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This is probably another way of saying, I think thr F.O. has made all the wrong moves and even when the right moves are made, there seems to be a downside.

no 4 pick in the draft, The highest spot in decades. He's good but year after year the opportunity to draft a good rb avails itself at a lower cost and we make it worse by extending him early at a record breaking cost.

Draft a LB with an early 2nd that is a non factor for a couple of years and then shows flashes so you have to extend him with a huge contract just to see him regress.

Use a first on a DE that does nothing , passing on much better players just to cut him.

Draft a L B with neck issues that you have to worry about going forward.

Use a 1st on a trade for a wr with only a year and a half of control without making the trade contingent on an extension. He's good enough to dominate occasionally but disappears for long stretches and expects to be paid like one of the greatest of all time.

Use your highest pick on a DT with a known lack of motivation just to sit him on the bench.

The one lucky move you make is drafting a top 15 QB in the 4th rd but now he expects to be paid like he is a multi year SB MVP.

You dedicate tons of assets towards an OL that can't pick up a yard on 4th and 1.

You pay your pass rush specialist like he is the re-incarnation of Reggie White just to see him play like a mid level DE.

You use a 1st rd pick on a CB who is above avg but can't get turnovers just to have to lose him because everyone else is being paid like mvp's.

Jerry, quit being a cheerleader and an ego booster selling jerseys of inflated assets and become a disciplined leader of a team that fans can be proud of.

BTW Safeties and 1-techs are important parts of any good defense.

One of the stronger and more fact substantiated posts I'd read in a long time. Excellent originality and overall summary OP. Beware the Cowboys Pollyanna apologist crowd attacks. Again, good post. Couldn't agree more. Every last word of it.
 
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