Ian Rapoport: Cowboys are starting QB Dak Prescott post-bye vs #Eagles, source said.

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,835
Reaction score
103,565
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
If Tony had 3TD's 1INT and a 117 passer rating in that game, I'd say he had a great game too.

So would everyone else. This looks like grasping at straws at this point to me. And Dak's numbers already compare favorably to Romo's career numbers in many categories. Except for interceptions.
 

SDCowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
26,763
Reaction score
22,734
So would everyone else. This looks like grasping at straws at this point to me. And Dak's numbers already compare favorably to Romo's career numbers in many categories. Except for interceptions.
:hammer:

10 total TD's 1INT, a 100+ passer rating after week 6 would be darn good season for Tony or almost anyone at this point. So when people say Tony would be doing better right now, I'm not sure I see it.
 
Last edited:

Animosity

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,183
Reaction score
1,029
This is the way it should be. Bledsoe lost his job due to injury, and Romo should lose his job too... also given the fact that Romo has had 10 years and has nothing to show for. Time for a fresh start. Been wanting a fresh start since the Romo choke against the Commanders in that must win game.
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,835
Reaction score
103,565
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
:hammer:

10 total TD's 1INT, a 100+ passer rating after week 6 would be darn good season for Tony or almost anyone at this point. So when people say Tony would be doing better right now, I'm not sure I see it.

You know what he'd also be doing? Turning the ball over at a much higher rate. Fans want to point to his career-best 2014 season and try to ignore his 5TD's and 7 INT's of 2015, a season in which he never looked like the same guy. Too bad it doesn't work that way.

And some also want to claim that he would take this offense to another level. Know what else would happen? Any and all use and threat of the read option stuff - which has been working great - is gone. And the offense inevitably suffers for that.

The bottom line is that this team is winning - and winning convincingly. And, based on Prescott's play, the team would be undefeated, and not 'just' 5-1.
 

SDCowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
26,763
Reaction score
22,734
You know what he'd also be doing? Turning the ball over at a much higher rate. Fans want to point to his career-best 2014 season and try to ignore his 5TD's and 7 INT's of 2015, a season in which he never looked like the same guy. Too bad it doesn't work that way.

And some also want to claim that he would take this offense to another level. Know what else would happen? Any and all use and threat of the read option stuff - which has been working great - is gone. And the offense inevitably suffers for that.

The bottom line is that this team is winning - and winning convincingly. And, based on Prescott's play, the team would be undefeated, and not 'just' 5-1.
Agreed. Couldn't have said it better.
 

LandryFan

Proud Native Texan, USMC-1972-79, USN-1983-2000
Messages
7,400
Reaction score
6,347
Stash, I'm slowly coming around to this perspective, as well :(

Credit where it is due, you've been campaigning for it from the start, brudda.

I still hate typing those words ("coming around"), but it is what it is. Dak is dazzling.
I am changing my tune, too. While I think Tony is the better QB, short-term, the team needs to look at the long-term view. I read an article this morning that really sold me on staying with Dak. It is a BTB article authored by "VAfan" (posted on their site today). Here is an excerpt from that article that, to me, was so logical and reasonable:

"How the Cowboys Can Have the Benefit Of Having Two Exceptional Quarterbacks In 2016
  • Play Dak Prescott as long as he’s healthy, productive, and winning games.
  • Have Tony Romo ready to play should Dak falter or start losing.
  • Don’t make a final decision on whether to insert Romo or stay with Dak until the latest point necessary for Romo to be his sharpest and healthiest going into the playoffs.
There are three powerful reasons why this is the best solution.

First, if Dak Prescott can both win games and improve while playing, the fastest way to help him increase his value to the Cowboys is to keep playing him. This has been confirmed by how much Dak Prescott has improved already this season.
Second, by continuing to play Dak Prescott, Dallas is gaining valuable intelligence on whether Dak will be ready to permanently assume the mantle of starting quarterback as early as 2017. Before Dallas considers trading Tony Romo to gain draft picks and cap room, the team needs to gain as much confidence as it can that Dak will not be a one-year wonder. Playing Dak as long as possible is the best way to answer this question.
Third, by continuing to play Dak Prescott as long as possible, Dallas keeps Tony Romo out of harms way and healthy. The threat of further injury is the biggest question mark for Tony Romo going forward. It’s likely his body can no longer execute what his mind wants it to as well as it once did, but this is a secondary concern. Can Tony survive three games in a row, let alone eight, or thirteen? Obviously the fewer games the Cowboys expose Tony Romo to getting hit by opponents, the more likely he is to remain healthy into the postseason if the Cowboys get there. Keeping Tony healthy is just as relevant to a 2016 playoff run as it is to protecting his value should Dallas decide to trade him at the end of the year."

That, to me, was pretty compelling logic for staying with young Dak, for now.
 

Mr Cowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
26,612
Reaction score
32,654
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...a1851fou763mc1

By Alec Brzezinski Omnisport
Updated at 11:16 a.m. ET
Dak Prescott will remain the Cowboys' starting quarterback after this week's bye, and Tony Romo may not be ready to compete for the job until after their Week 9 matchup against the Browns, .

After a Week 1 loss to the Giants, Prescott has led the Cowboys to five straight wins. He has only thrown one interception all season, leaving many to believe he should remain the starter even after Romo is healthy enough to return.

At the very least, Dallas can be patient with Romo after he suffered a fractured bone in his back during the preseason. The Cowboys will not make a final decision on Romo's playing status until they need to.

Prescott has been helped by sensational rookie running back Ezekiel Elliott and a tremendous offensive line. But his ability to read a defense and make plays with his feet has eased the loss of Romo and star wide receiver Dez Bryant.

Owner Jerry Jones has stood behind Romo thus far, claiming he is his starting quarterback, but fans may revolt if Prescott sees the bench if he's 7-1 when Romo returns.
 

Elusive6thRing

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,985
Reaction score
3,300
In related news, he is reporting Elliott will get the start at RB.

That's b.s. Morris should be given the starting job back, he was good for the Commanders a few years ago, Zeke is just a rookie behind a great offensive line he deserves zero credit!
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,312
Reaction score
32,716
What I've come to appreciate is that we've become a NO EXCUSES, NO NONSENSE team of late. We don't need all conditions to be perfect. We're not concerned if our QB#1 is playing on a short week or has properly rested his back etc.. Missing our franchise LT... no worries. No Dez... still an efficient offense not missing a step.. Rookie backfield... no worries... OScan, Claiborne, The two on suspension, Collins, Romo, all missing significant time but we've been resilient.

This is a very good and overlooked point. When Romo was in, it was always, "Well, we need to surround him with a better defense or a better receiver or a better running back." Or, when he wasn't in it was always, "Well, wait until Romo gets back." This was the attitude of both the fans and, I believe, a psyche that prevailed in the locker room.

But with Dak, there aren't any excuses. Everyone has to contribute. So, no Romo? No problem. We've got Dak. No Dez? No problem. We'll get the ball to Beasley and Butler. No OScan? No matter. We'll roll with a rookie in Anthony Brown. No Ro? We're still a-go with Hitchens.

We are becoming a team that is overcoming its excuses. We don't need to return to a mentality of "Romo will save us."

That is an underrated aspect of this whole Dak vs. Romo topic. I really would like to see Romo get to a Super Bowl and win one. But there is a growing confidence I see in this team, a no-excuses attitude, a nastiness, a dominance, an excitement I haven't seen in years. I admit, even in 2014, I wasn't totally confident we would make it to the NFC Championship. IT had nothing to do with Romo, who played well. But there was still this aura around the Cowboys that SAS describes as "the Cowboys are an accident waiting to happen."

I don't have that feeling with this team. I fully expect us to roll the Eagles and then destroy the Browns.

And if the Cowboys kill the Eagles, you simply can't take Dak out. Let him continue to grow by beating up on a hapless Browns team.

I think this team is SUPER CONFIDENT and has the MOMENTUM going. You simply can't disrupt this by re-inserting Romo.
 

DallasEast

Cowboys 24/7/365
Staff member
Messages
62,320
Reaction score
64,017
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,312
Reaction score
32,716
Assuming that I'll be crucified for asking this but what if, WHAT IF, Romo takes this offense to another level? Listen, I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan so I have nothing negative to say about anyone on this team. (See...I didn't mention 'owner' anywhere in that statement.) For the first time in a long time, I'm actually proud to be a fan of this team. They are playing solid TEAM football. So sticking w/ the 'hot' player means sticking with the 'hot' team as it's not just one guy controlling the W's. So, here we sit @ 5-1, getting healthy via this bye week, with a great problem to have on our hands. For the guys who are 100% on the Dak train, what if, WHAT IF Romo can take this team to another level. Past history shows that he can. Do you allow that possibility to remain holding the clipboard, and roll the dice with the current team or do they answer this 'what if' knowing that it's either going to fail or become a dream scenario? Now if it fails, what all are they losing? A game in the standings. This is the thing that I can't get past. The 'what if'...

Here's what we know:

Actual - Dak has this team at 5-1. No, it's not just him. Yes, it is him. We know this because we trotted out three other quarterbacks who could only get us one win last year. We have a rookie quarterback who has led this team to 5 straight wins without our top wide receiver.

Hypothetical - Romo could take this team to another level. Could he? Yes. But this is only a hypothetical answer.

I've always said you can never (well, excluding certain situations we can't talk about) compare a hypothetical with an actual. The actual wins EVERY time because the actual is what IS the hypothetical is what COULD BE.

I don't think it's wise to trade a positive actual for a potentially more positive hypothetical.

Bird in the hand beats two in the bush. :)
 

Mr Cowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
26,612
Reaction score
32,654
This is a very good and overlooked point. When Romo was in, it was always, "Well, we need to surround him with a better defense or a better receiver or a better running back." Or, when he wasn't in it was always, "Well, wait until Romo gets back." This was the attitude of both the fans and, I believe, a psyche that prevailed in the locker room.

But with Dak, there aren't any excuses. Everyone has to contribute. So, no Romo? No problem. We've got Dak. No Dez? No problem. We'll get the ball to Beasley and Butler. No OScan? No matter. We'll roll with a rookie in Anthony Brown. No Ro? We're still a-go with Hitchens.

We are becoming a team that is overcoming its excuses. We don't need to return to a mentality of "Romo will save us."

That is an underrated aspect of this whole Dak vs. Romo topic. I really would like to see Romo get to a Super Bowl and win one. But there is a growing confidence I see in this team, a no-excuses attitude, a nastiness, a dominance, an excitement I haven't seen in years. I admit, even in 2014, I wasn't totally confident we would make it to the NFC Championship. IT had nothing to do with Romo, who played well. But there was still this aura around the Cowboys that SAS describes as "the Cowboys are an accident waiting to happen."

I don't have that feeling with this team. I fully expect us to roll the Eagles and then destroy the Browns.

And if the Cowboys kill the Eagles, you simply can't take Dak out. Let him continue to grow by beating up on a hapless Browns team.

I think this team is SUPER CONFIDENT and has the MOMENTUM going. You simply can't disrupt this by re-inserting Romo.

I totally agree, we may be on to something special here, we simply can't mess with it just because Tony "deserves" to play. After reading the thread about the rookie dinner, where the whole team showed up, It makes me feel that this team has come together and has each other's back. We need to keep it going.
 

BigStar

Stop chasing
Messages
11,528
Reaction score
17,081
It sure would have been nice to have all this Dak love back in the spring when I was pushing for him and
everyone else thought he was a bum. It felt awful lonely out on that limb when he was selected late
in the 4th round of the draft and there was loud crying for another failed Jerry pick. Lots of gravy train
followers on this board now along with "Johnny come lately" fans, for sure...
You want a cookie?
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,312
Reaction score
32,716
I'd like to see it.

And slow down on Dak. He didn't play "great" on Sunday, and if he was Romo, folks would be wondering why he's not playing better than this. It's all relative. For a rookie, Dak is playing incredibly well. By Romo's career standards, not so much.

And they would be wondering based on Romo's experience. We expect for a rookie who hasn't had a down game yet to take a dip at some point. We don't expect it as much when a seasoned veteran has a down game.
 

MileyDancer

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,669
Reaction score
5,321
Guys, I bought a water gun to shoot eagles fans in the parking lot. I miss
And that 1 loss had nothing to do with Prescott. He did his job. Bryant and Beasley dropped touchdowns that would have won the game.
1 point away from 6-0. SO FRUSTRATING.
 

TwoDeep3

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,506
Reaction score
17,339
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Romo comes back the week of the Brown's game, or he will be week-to-week so Jerry doesn't have to tell him he is not starting.
 
Top