If Dak is playable and on the field, he produces

[diamonddelts]

Dak Prescott got one SINGLE first place MVP vote. Context is everything.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Dak Prescott got one SINGLE first place MVP vote. Context is everything.

I don’t think he got any 1st place votes. Under the old system just a few years ago he wouldn’t even be listed.

 

[5Stars]

I don’t think he got any 1st place votes. Under the old system just a few years ago he wouldn’t even be listed.

If I were Dak I would be embarrassed that my fans tout me for being a second place loser, but then again Dak has no shame same as his fans.

 

[blueblood70]

You fail see one major point. Dak is part of “the top” from which it flows. Dak doesn’t hold himself accountable. He doesn’t hold the FO accountable. He don’t hold the coaching accountable.

Daks been portrayed as a great leader, why? Because he built a football field in his back yard and has some WRs over in the off season to play catch?

What does Dak do to prove he’s a leader? I know. He tries to act tough when he’s hurting a little bit, then yells at the coach that he’s going in. Or maybe it’s when he stands on the sideline during a game telling teammates how bad “we suck”. Yep, sounds like a leader to me.

The only way Dak has a chance is if they decide to bring in several better free agents, draft at least 3 starters, and hope they aren’t as injured as they were last year.

Dak also needs to get past this always injured BS. Train more, play smarter, be faster, and suck it up!!!

That's a terrible perspective,

I'm sorry,

but first of all he's not part of the top from which it flows!!

he's one moving piece of the starting 11 on his team,in which most of the time there are four or five of those pieces screwing up the big games, and that doesn't even bring into account bad coaching or injuries and that kind of thing around him..

literally, some of the worst run games I've ever seen in big games like under 3YPC or worse, some of the worst penalties on the offensive line, some of the worst defensive plays ,and non plays, and penalties on that side of the ball...​

​

literally ,every time we have a conversation about the quarterback ,we forget that there are other quarterbacks have been played for this team and have championship rings that were never asked for it all to flow from the top.. it flowed from within, the whole team moving in the same direction and playing just as hard and just as well and executing!!​

​

the top would be the GM, the coaching staff, that's where it all flows from, and it's been a failure here for quite some time in the big game atmospheres.​

You tried to tell me you think the eagles would have won the Super bowl without Saquon Barkley helping them get there, having an epic season ,having the offense flow through the run game one of the best offensive lines in the game, some of the best short yardage play calls in the game, and it made the quarterback comfortable... He even had a mistake early in the game and it didn't matter..​

​

Matthew Stafford led the league in with interceptions had two interceptions in the Super bowl and they still won.. that's all they remember Matthew Stafford finally got a ring, he must be great, he must have changed ,no he didn't change he's the same Detroit quarterback that was there before which by the way he reminds me of Tony Romo and Prescott.. he literally had to change teams to that had an "all in" philosophy.​

Those old Cowboys teams of the 70s and 90s before the term was coined all in had teams like that where defenses had names, the offenses flow through the run game, and then the trenches, and the coaching staff were some of the best that ever were assembled..

that you think Prescott is part of the top, no the top is the coaching staff and then the GM and the ownership and the trainers and everybody else up there that's supposed to be keeping this thing on the tracks in order for these guys to function better..

. And again it's more about the team and you have to add in injuries you can't ask a quarterback to win games by himself no quarterback in this league that's won championships has done it by himself.. I don't remember many that have carried them, even John Elway was just missing and then they brought him who Terrell Davis had some of the best run games and won back-to-back championships because of it he needed that help... they all need help, Troy never ever carried this team at any point in his career his leadership was all made-up by the fan base because of the winning but the winning flow through Emmitt Smith and it flowed through the trenches on both sides of the ball it flowed through the coaching staff and that's been missing around here..

. Of course Prescott like most quarterbacks need help they all need help they all have to have a team that actually shows up and plays and executes well you can't have an offense execute well without a run game of some sort.. something better than three yards per carry and no impact plays .and no touchdowns. an offensive line that doesn't have 11 penalties in a game or constantly getting pushed back into the backfield and you expect the quarterback to play well!!

no, that expectations is something that somebody's never played team sports they have no idea what it feels like to have it all on you and yeah sometimes balls get picked off when guys aren't getting separation or you have pressure in your face all day you don't have a run game and the games getting tight and sometimes you just trying to make a play... Asking the quarterback to be perfect when everything around him is blowing up and on fire no that's not how it works...

 

[Vtwin]

If I were Dak I would be embarrassed that my fans tout me for being a second place loser, but then again Dak has no shame same as his fans.

I wouldn't have even used that line to pick up chicks back in the day.

How's that old saying about winners and losers and prom queens go?

 

[blueblood70]

You fail see one major point. Dak is part of “the top” from which it flows. Dak doesn’t hold himself accountable. He doesn’t hold the FO accountable. He don’t hold the coaching accountable.

Daks been portrayed as a great leader, why? Because he built a football field in his back yard and has some WRs over in the off season to play catch?

What does Dak do to prove he’s a leader? I know. He tries to act tough when he’s hurting a little bit, then yells at the coach that he’s going in. Or maybe it’s when he stands on the sideline during a game telling teammates how bad “we suck”. Yep, sounds like a leader to me.

The only way Dak has a chance is if they decide to bring in several better free agents, draft at least 3 starters, and hope they aren’t as injured as they were last year.

Dak also needs to get past this always injured BS. Train more, play smarter, be faster, and suck it up!!!

Actually he's a leader because I'm not with fans think they see from the outside he's a leader because all the coaches that's ever coached with him say he's a leader all his peers his teammates say he's a leader it's what you do at practice and what you do behind the scenes is what you do in a locker room is how you interact with your teammates coaches and your everyday handling of your own business; that would be on and off the field... I mean literally you don't see stories like you would of Ezekiel Elliott off the field stuff even some of the stuff that you know young guys make mistakes it happens but ever since Prescott's been a pro said none of that stuff ever brought up about him partying late at night any videos or pictures insinuating he's smoking weed and drinking all night he's always talked about his mom and his cancer and his loss and how that impacts personal life and it carries over onto the field and look what he's got a brand new child and a new house they're building a life with his future wife this is all you hear about him they're saying this is how he is with his teammates..

These are things you don't get to see or that you don't hear very often because it's happening on the practice field not with cameras on them it's literally in the locker room it's how they are at each others birthday lunch or birthday dinner when they have gatherings at their house they all say he's very professional and he's a leader that's what they say that he doesn't say that about himself we're not in here making this up this is just things we've heard from other people that would know... He seems to be very high character responsible he's empathetic he actually cares may not look like it's you because he took some money you know what that's his business that is the business of sports all these injuries you're talking about it's not 'cause he doesn't workout it's a brutal sport it happens to everyone at some point in their careers unless they're totally lucky gonna have some of these things happen over 10 years major injuries but he works back from them and he usually has a career year right after when he comes back he fights back and he plays well... If he didn't care he could quit he could sit on the sidelines he could not wanna make it back...

You telling this professional football player of eight years that has lots of accolades when it comes to individual stats the rest of it's all about the team teams have to win championships but everything else he's been a model citizen a leader and nothing says he doesn't work hard behind the scenes and you're telling him to suck it up and train more like you know he hasn't dude get over it the whole entire Mavericks team has gotten injured just like ours last year including people who are considered leaders long time veterans are getting hurt it has nothing to do with training or whether they're keeping themselves in shape it is a sport you get hurt and then you make comebacks until you can't do it anymore...

The irony of you sitting here on the Internet judging a man and you have no idea what he does behind the scenes.... You have zero clue on his workout habits his practice and how his teammates feel about him other than what they say and most of them said he's a leader and that he works hard and that he cares i'll take their word over yours,,

,

 

[CCBoy]

Well, some might say when you make a declarative statement on a public forum you actually do have a responsibility to respond to pertinent responses. Addressing Dak's failure to produce on the field in the games prior to his injury seems a valid point which requires a response.

Running and hiding from it certainly suggests a lack of strong feeling and commitment to the original statement.

Making up story line instead. You produce nothing factual beyond name calling and no discussion of starting points.

You substitute insult for discussion. I never backed away from your lies or your insults.

You presented denial of all accomplished and present nothing to prove it beyond your self initiated insults.

Now you really don;t include, what his statistics were in that MVP relevant season. Your direction chosen,

Next, except for the team's injury season, include that if you wish, what were his statistics for his career?

This amounts to no more than stirring the pot. Not discussive merit. You know, English.


Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2024 2024	Cowboys	64.7 64.7	1,978 1,978	11 11	8 8	86.0 86.0
2023 2023	Cowboys	69.5 69.5	4,516 4,516	36 36	9 9	105.9 105.9
2022 2022	Cowboys	66.2 66.2	2,860 2,860	23 23	15 15	91.1 91.1
2021 2021	Cowboys	68.8 68.8	4,449 4,449	37 37	10 10	104.2 104.2
2020 2020	Cowboys	68.0 68.0	1,856 1,856	9 9	4 4	99.6 99.6
2019 2019	Cowboys	65.1 65.1	4,902 4,902	30 30	11 11	99.7 99.7
2018 2018	Cowboys	67.7 67.7	3,885 3,885	22 22	8 8	96.9 96.9
2017 2017	Cowboys	62.9 62.9	3,324 3,324	22 22	13 13	86.6 86.6
2016 2016	Cowboys	67.8 67.8	3,667 3,667	23 23	4 4	104.9 104.9
Career Career		66.8 66.8	31,437 31,437	213 213	82 82	98.1 98.1

*2020 and 2024 were both injury seasons for Prescott

*2019, 2021, and 2023 were all healthy as well as strong and productive season - can't be argued


https://www.google.com/search?q=dak...czMDk1ajBqNKgCB7ACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[gtb1943]

That's a terrible perspective,

I'm sorry,

but first of all he's not part of the top from which it flows!!

he's one moving piece of the starting 11 on his team,in which most of the time there are four or five of those pieces screwing up the big games, and that doesn't even bring into account bad coaching or injuries and that kind of thing around him..

literally, some of the worst run games I've ever seen in big games like under 3YPC or worse, some of the worst penalties on the offensive line, some of the worst defensive plays ,and non plays, and penalties on that side of the ball...​

​

literally ,every time we have a conversation about the quarterback ,we forget that there are other quarterbacks have been played for this team and have championship rings that were never asked for it all to flow from the top.. it flowed from within, the whole team moving in the same direction and playing just as hard and just as well and executing!!​

​

the top would be the GM, the coaching staff, that's where it all flows from, and it's been a failure here for quite some time in the big game atmospheres.​

You tried to tell me you think the eagles would have won the Super bowl without Saquon Barkley helping them get there, having an epic season ,having the offense flow through the run game one of the best offensive lines in the game, some of the best short yardage play calls in the game, and it made the quarterback comfortable... He even had a mistake early in the game and it didn't matter..​

​

Matthew Stafford led the league in with interceptions had two interceptions in the Super bowl and they still won.. that's all they remember Matthew Stafford finally got a ring, he must be great, he must have changed ,no he didn't change he's the same Detroit quarterback that was there before which by the way he reminds me of Tony Romo and Prescott.. he literally had to change teams to that had an "all in" philosophy.​

Those old Cowboys teams of the 70s and 90s before the term was coined all in had teams like that where defenses had names, the offenses flow through the run game, and then the trenches, and the coaching staff were some of the best that ever were assembled..

that you think Prescott is part of the top, no the top is the coaching staff and then the GM and the ownership and the trainers and everybody else up there that's supposed to be keeping this thing on the tracks in order for these guys to function better..

. And again it's more about the team and you have to add in injuries you can't ask a quarterback to win games by himself no quarterback in this league that's won championships has done it by himself.. I don't remember many that have carried them, even John Elway was just missing and then they brought him who Terrell Davis had some of the best run games and won back-to-back championships because of it he needed that help... they all need help, Troy never ever carried this team at any point in his career his leadership was all made-up by the fan base because of the winning but the winning flow through Emmitt Smith and it flowed through the trenches on both sides of the ball it flowed through the coaching staff and that's been missing around here..

. Of course Prescott like most quarterbacks need help they all need help they all have to have a team that actually shows up and plays and executes well you can't have an offense execute well without a run game of some sort.. something better than three yards per carry and no impact plays .and no touchdowns. an offensive line that doesn't have 11 penalties in a game or constantly getting pushed back into the backfield and you expect the quarterback to play well!!

no, that expectations is something that somebody's never played team sports they have no idea what it feels like to have it all on you and yeah sometimes balls get picked off when guys aren't getting separation or you have pressure in your face all day you don't have a run game and the games getting tight and sometimes you just trying to make a play... Asking the quarterback to be perfect when everything around him is blowing up and on fire no that's not how it works...

dak fanboys are so pathetic

 

[gtb1943]

Making up story line instead. You produce nothing factual beyond name calling and no discussion of starting points.

You substitute insult for discussion. I never backed away from your lies or your insults.

You presented denial of all accomplished and present nothing to prove it beyond your self initiated insults.

Now you really don;t include, what his statistics were in that MVP relevant season. Your direction chosen,

Next, except for the team's injury season, include that if you wish, what were his statistics for his career?

This amounts to no more than stirring the pot. Not discussive merit. You know, English.


Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2024 2024	Cowboys	64.7 64.7	1,978 1,978	11 11	8 8	86.0 86.0
2023 2023	Cowboys	69.5 69.5	4,516 4,516	36 36	9 9	105.9 105.9
2022 2022	Cowboys	66.2 66.2	2,860 2,860	23 23	15 15	91.1 91.1
2021 2021	Cowboys	68.8 68.8	4,449 4,449	37 37	10 10	104.2 104.2
2020 2020	Cowboys	68.0 68.0	1,856 1,856	9 9	4 4	99.6 99.6
2019 2019	Cowboys	65.1 65.1	4,902 4,902	30 30	11 11	99.7 99.7
2018 2018	Cowboys	67.7 67.7	3,885 3,885	22 22	8 8	96.9 96.9
2017 2017	Cowboys	62.9 62.9	3,324 3,324	22 22	13 13	86.6 86.6
2016 2016	Cowboys	67.8 67.8	3,667 3,667	23 23	4 4	104.9 104.9
Career Career		66.8 66.8	31,437 31,437	213 213	82 82	98.1 98.1

*2020 and 2024 were both injury seasons for Prescott

*2019, 2021, and 2023 were all healthy as well as strong and productive season - can't be argued


https://www.google.com/search?q=dak...czMDk1ajBqNKgCB7ACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

so every other year he is injured or stinks

 

[gtb1943]

I need to observe a ton more before I project from actual team. They will show up and be competitive, that can be discerned., even now.

They will win more than they will lose. How good, as a fan I have to wait. I was a Government worker and not just fired, with 50 years. VA wasn't my hangup. I served.

I was a government worker as well; and before that served.
I was proud of serving; not so working in the DOD watching all the garbage that went on
you should have a better sense of smell for rot

 

[CCBoy]

Making up story line instead. You produce nothing factual beyond name calling and no discussion of starting points.

You substitute insult for discussion. I never backed away from your lies or your insults.

You presented denial of all accomplished and present nothing to prove it beyond your self initiated insults.

Now you really don;t include, what his statistics were in that MVP relevant season. Your direction chosen,

Next, except for the team's injury season, include that if you wish, what were his statistics for his career?

This amounts to no more than stirring the pot. Not discussive merit. You know, English.


Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2024 2024	Cowboys	64.7 64.7	1,978 1,978	11 11	8 8	86.0 86.0
2023 2023	Cowboys	69.5 69.5	4,516 4,516	36 36	9 9	105.9 105.9
2022 2022	Cowboys	66.2 66.2	2,860 2,860	23 23	15 15	91.1 91.1
2021 2021	Cowboys	68.8 68.8	4,449 4,449	37 37	10 10	104.2 104.2
2020 2020	Cowboys	68.0 68.0	1,856 1,856	9 9	4 4	99.6 99.6
2019 2019	Cowboys	65.1 65.1	4,902 4,902	30 30	11 11	99.7 99.7
2018 2018	Cowboys	67.7 67.7	3,885 3,885	22 22	8 8	96.9 96.9
2017 2017	Cowboys	62.9 62.9	3,324 3,324	22 22	13 13	86.6 86.6
2016 2016	Cowboys	67.8 67.8	3,667 3,667	23 23	4 4	104.9 104.9
Career Career		66.8 66.8	31,437 31,437	213 213	82 82	98.1 98.1

*2020 and 2024 were both injury seasons for Prescott

*2019, 2021, and 2023 were all healthy as well as strong and productive season - can't be argued


https://www.google.com/search?q=dak...czMDk1ajBqNKgCB7ACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

2020, 2022, and 2024 all three were injury seasons for Dak

TD's thrown in most recent seasons 30, 37, 36, starting 2021

 

[Vtwin]

Making up story line instead. You produce nothing factual beyond name calling and no discussion of starting points.

You substitute insult for discussion. I never backed away from your lies or your insults.

You presented denial of all accomplished and present nothing to prove it beyond your self initiated insults.

Now you really don;t include, what his statistics were in that MVP relevant season. Your direction chosen,

Next, except for the team's injury season, include that if you wish, what were his statistics for his career?

This amounts to no more than stirring the pot. Not discussive merit. You know, English.


Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2024 2024	Cowboys	64.7 64.7	1,978 1,978	11 11	8 8	86.0 86.0
2023 2023	Cowboys	69.5 69.5	4,516 4,516	36 36	9 9	105.9 105.9
2022 2022	Cowboys	66.2 66.2	2,860 2,860	23 23	15 15	91.1 91.1
2021 2021	Cowboys	68.8 68.8	4,449 4,449	37 37	10 10	104.2 104.2
2020 2020	Cowboys	68.0 68.0	1,856 1,856	9 9	4 4	99.6 99.6
2019 2019	Cowboys	65.1 65.1	4,902 4,902	30 30	11 11	99.7 99.7
2018 2018	Cowboys	67.7 67.7	3,885 3,885	22 22	8 8	96.9 96.9
2017 2017	Cowboys	62.9 62.9	3,324 3,324	22 22	13 13	86.6 86.6
2016 2016	Cowboys	67.8 67.8	3,667 3,667	23 23	4 4	104.9 104.9
Career Career		66.8 66.8	31,437 31,437	213 213	82 82	98.1 98.1

*2020 and 2024 were both injury seasons for Prescott

*2019, 2021, and 2023 were all healthy as well as strong and productive season - can't be argued


https://www.google.com/search?q=dak...czMDk1ajBqNKgCB7ACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Ahhh....
So you're choosing to double down and run a little farther and hide even better. All while hurling insults over your shoulder. (If that ain't the Wagner calling out the Lodge! lol)

Thank you though for providing the stats highlighting that Dak stunk in 2024 prior to the injury. Look at that comp% and TD/INT ratio. Any thoughts to why he stunk?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Go ahead, you and the team bench him or just go ahead and trade him...

Nobody is saying that he is tradable obviously. Now that he can still play will remain to be seen... Just remember he wasn't putting up more than six points into the third quarter in several games this seasons. Add to that the lack of mobility he was displaying this season, well you think he is going to last if he is just going to keep getting sacked in the backfield? Some people can't tell when a player is done for and keep trying to build a team around him. Other people realize that the team made a mistake and the only option is to move on. But keep trying to hammer in that disfigured square peg into the round hole....

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Why? Panic involved or just giving up on potentials.

you can surround a quarterback with talent, but if he hangs around in the backfield and gets sacks, what did that accomplish?

 

[CCBoy]

Nobody is saying that he is tradable obviously. Now that he can still play will remain to be seen... Just remember he wasn't putting up more than six points into the third quarter in several games this seasons. Add to that the lack of mobility he was displaying this season, well you think he is going to last if he is just going to keep getting sacked in the backfield? Some people can't tell when a player is done for and keep trying to build a team around him. Other people realize that the team made a mistake and the only option is to move on. But keep trying to hammer in that disfigured square peg into the round hole....

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Did anyone read this long winded garbage? If this poster is married I bet his spouse never can get in a word during a conversation. lmao

Even by his standards that's a biggie.
And no - didn't read any of it

 

[Johannes44]

MVP runner up = first loser

 

[CCBoy]

you can surround a quarterback with talent, but if he hangs around in the backfield and gets sacks, what did that accomplish?

The graph of production proved your chosen stance was wrong. So, with a short average time he was just careless?

Ahhh....
So you're choosing to double down and run a little farther and hide even better. All while hurling insults over your shoulder. (If that ain't the Wagner calling out the Lodge! lol)

Thank you though for providing the stats highlighting that Dak stunk in 2024 prior to the injury. Look at that comp% and TD/INT ratio. Any thoughts to why he stunk?

Already answered in thread.

Graphic reading is not a strength.

 

[CCBoy]

I was a government worker as well; and before that served.
I was proud of serving; not so working in the DOD watching all the garbage that went on
you should have a better sense of smell for rot

Don't believe your make believe...

 

[CCBoy]

MVP runner up = first loser