If it was still the early nineties would Dak or Mahomes be playing in the NFL?

[Jarntt]

Back then the NFL was still real football. Quarterbacks had to be willing to take a hit while standing in and delivering a perfect pass that often made the difference in the game(s).
Not just Dak or Mahomes; would Lamar Jackson, Bryce Young, Jalen Hurts or any of the more mobile quarterbacks in today's game be playing still?
Would they even have been drafted?
In the NFL of the early nineties and before, the physical toll playing quarterback took on players caused teams to shy away from smaller guys because their mobility would disappear as the hits they took began to take their toll on them.
Nowadays the NFL penalizes any player who gets too physical when tackling a quarterback so much that they are basically playing touch football.
So why are quarterbacks still considered the highest valued player on a team?
Let's face it; the quarterback is now the easiest position to play in the NFL.

Yes, Dak is only in the league because of his Barry Sanders like shiftiness…

 

[Hagman]

If they had a stupid thread zone all the OP’s threads would be moved there.

 

[revospeed]

How is Allen tougher lol? What has Mahomes shown to think he’s not?

His constant flopping. Got to SBs by flopping.

 

[Blackrain]

Based on what?

Based on they played the game when it was a lot tougher on quarterbacks and dominated then so there would be no reason why they would not be totally dominant now.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

Back then the NFL was still real football. Quarterbacks had to be willing to take a hit while standing in and delivering a perfect pass that often made the difference in the game(s).
Not just Dak or Mahomes; would Lamar Jackson, Bryce Young, Jalen Hurts or any of the more mobile quarterbacks in today's game be playing still?
Would they even have been drafted?
In the NFL of the early nineties and before, the physical toll playing quarterback took on players caused teams to shy away from smaller guys because their mobility would disappear as the hits they took began to take their toll on them.
Nowadays the NFL penalizes any player who gets too physical when tackling a quarterback so much that they are basically playing touch football.
So why are quarterbacks still considered the highest valued player on a team?
Let's face it; the quarterback is now the easiest position to play in the NFL.

Mahomes; Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts Yes.... Dak, No.... I haven't seen Bryce Young play so I can't answer that one...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

His constant flopping. Got to SBs by flopping.

Flopping? You sure you aren’t thinking about Luka? How do you “flop” in the NfL?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Based on they played the game when it was a lot tougher on quarterbacks and dominated then so there would be no reason why they would not be totally dominant now.

Notice you guys keep talking about toughness and not skill lol. Not one of those guys are more talented then Rodgers or Mahomes.

 

[Vtwin]

Notice you guys keep talking about toughness and not skill lol. Not one of those guys are more talented then Rodgers or Mahomes.

You might also notice that nobody said they were.

The point being made is that a level of toughness was required then, that is not so much required now.

Do you think QB's were generally subjected to more punishment in that era vs today, or no?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You might also notice that nobody said they were.

The point being made is that a level of toughness was required then, that is not so much required now.

Do you think QB's were generally subjected to more punishment in that era vs today, or no?

I don’t like the whole this guy can’t play in today’s game or that guy can’t play in the 90s. Its always full of bias opinions based on the era you grew up watching.

Yesterdays game was far more physical then todays game. But Mahomes, Lamar, etc don’t lack toughness. Dak either. Now Jay Cutler? Sure I can see a argument made against him because he was soft.

 

[Pass2Run]

Go check out leeblair on YouTube.

 

[Miller]

Yeah, keep believing that.
Meanwhile, there's video of defenders purposely missing him.
Keep being the kind of fan the NFL wants.
Bet your house on a game.

You need help! “Defenders purposefully missing” Seriously take the tin foil hat off and go talk to someone. Being serious

 

[Nova]

The 90s and early 2000s were my golden era of football.

But let’s not overrate it here.

Mahomes is Steve Young with Favre’s arm. He’d be just fine.

 

[Vtwin]

I don’t like the whole this guy can’t play in today’s game or that guy can’t play in the 90s. Its always full of bias opinions based on the era you grew up watching.

Yesterdays game was far more physical then todays game. But Mahomes, Lamar, etc don’t lack toughness. Dak either. Now Jay Cutler? Sure I can see a argument made against him because he was soft.

I can understand your point, but it has nothing to do with talent comparisons, which was your original point that I responded to.

I think Dak would have struggled more than you think. He is not a tough guy. That six sack game against Atlanta got in his head, and those were new age sacks.

Its always full of bias opinions based on the era you grew up watching.

You always do this. Make an emotionally based, and completely unsubstantiated claim to discount the opinion of others. Is it projection? You do this so everyone else must too? Whatever the reason, it is a terrible practice which doesn't reflect well on you. I mean. whose opinion is likely to be more biased? The opinion of a younger person who has only witnessed half, or the older person who witnessed the whole thing? Fair question, right?

You certainly don't have to agree with the opinions of others, but you look foolish when you resort to assigning emotions and motives to others in an effort to explain away their opinion. If you actually do have those mind reading skills then stop wasting them on this piddly crap.

 

[5Stars]

I don’t like the whole this guy can’t play in today’s game or that guy can’t play in the 90s. Its always full of bias opinions based on the era you grew up watching.

Yesterdays game was far more physical then todays game. But Mahomes, Lamar, etc don’t lack toughness. Dak either. Now Jay Cutler? Sure I can see a argument made against him because he was soft.

You're 35 years old, you know nothing about the old days of football.

 

[5Stars]

I can understand your point, but it has nothing to do with talent comparisons, which was your original point that I responded to.

I think Dak would have struggled more than you think. He is not a tough guy. That six sack game against Atlanta got in his head, and those were new age sacks.

You always do this. Make an emotionally based, and completely unsubstantiated claim to discount the opinion of others. Is it projection? You do this so everyone else must too? Whatever the reason, it is a terrible practice which doesn't reflect well on you. I mean. whose opinion is likely to be more biased? The opinion of a younger person who has only witnessed half, or the older person who witnessed the whole thing? Fair question, right?

You certainly don't have to agree with the opinions of others, but you look foolish when you resort to assigning emotions and motives to others in an effort to explain away their opinion. If you actually do have those mind reading skills then stop wasting them on this piddly crap.

It's called rabbit hole talk, all the cool kids do it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I can understand your point, but it has nothing to do with talent comparisons, which was your original point that I responded to.

I think Dak would have struggled more than you think. He is not a tough guy. That six sack game against Atlanta got in his head, and those were new age sacks.

You always do this. Make an emotionally based, and completely unsubstantiated claim to discount the opinion of others. Is it projection? You do this so everyone else must too? Whatever the reason, it is a terrible practice which doesn't reflect well on you. I mean. whose opinion is likely to be more biased? The opinion of a younger person who has only witnessed half, or the older person who witnessed the whole thing? Fair question, right?

You certainly don't have to agree with the opinions of others, but you look foolish when you resort to assigning emotions and motives to others in an effort to explain away their opinion. If you actually do have those mind reading skills then stop wasting them on this piddly crap.

That 6 sack game didn’t show lack of toughness to me it showed incompetence from a coach who kept letting it happen and happen to a second year pro.

And I’m not sure if Dak would’ve struggled. Maybe he would’ve. I’m just not gonna say it was because he lacked toughness.

And you completely missed my point. What I’m saying is people are naturally going to be more biased to the era they grew up in. I can sit here and bring up pros and cons for both eras. I can say yesterday’s game was more physical and less flags. I can say today’s game is faster. Doesn’t mean either one is better. I never said anyone was right or wrong. What I said was I don’t like assuming Mahomes can’t play in the 90s because he wouldn’t be tough enough. Same goes for someone who says someone wouldn’t make it in today’s game because it’s too fast. There’s bias’s on both sides.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's called rabbit hole talk, all the cool kids do it.

You know this routine you do of lap dogging anyone who disagrees with me is childish and sad don’t you? I hope you do. You hear one guy say rabbit hole and like a sheep you just keep regurgitating it.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Good QB's could play in any Era..past ones could be good now and present ones would be good then...the stats would change because of the coverage rules but they change across the board so its would just slot in with the Era.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Good QB's could play in any Era..past ones could be good now and present ones would be good then...the stats would change because of the coverage rules but they change across the board so its would just slot in with the Era.

I agree. I think Marino would light it up in this era. I think Pat would’ve too. In this era Pat is just an ok athlete compared to the other freaks of nature. In the 90s he would’ve been one of the better athletes at QB.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You might also notice that nobody said they were.

The point being made is that a level of toughness was required then, that is not so much required now.

Do you think QB's were generally subjected to more punishment in that era vs today, or no?

and this BS happens every generation. I heard it back in the 90s, where WRs were being protected, not like the 70s when DBs would tackle them with no penalties!!!!

perhaps we should listen to my Dad who is 93, talk about NFL back in his time. when helmets were leather and didn't have face guards....when nothing was considered dirty hit or tackling...I mean those guys were tough....you think people in the 90s were tough...come on....back in the 50s and 60s was when they played real football, those 90s players were nothing but sissy's and none of them would last a season...

and then comes the next generation and they claim the previous generation had it tougher.... bet when rules change 20 years from now, some idiot will say, hey back in 2020s they played real football, not the sissy stuff they play now!!!! it never fails

yeah, I bet you walked back and forth to school in 6 feet of snow in a blizzard, up hill both ways, while running from wolves and bears, year round....and the sissy's today take a bus!!! that was real school back then when teachers smacked you around, not like today when you are protected from getting beat up....