If Payton Goes To The Saints

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Ok, from the rumors we were hearing, Sean Payton was a big Tony Romo fan. So, I'm sure as soon as he goes to New Orleans he will want to take that big time QB with him. How bout it, do the Saints now give their #1 pick for Big Time Tony!!!?:bow:
 

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No way---get a life...maybe the Saints would go ahead and give us all their choices for the mighty Romo...btw,this is'nt Madden,this is the NFL and if you think we could get the #2 overall pick for Romo....
 

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You know what they say....there is a fool born everyday....:D

My thoughts as well.
 

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How about something more plausible like Greg Ellis or a return to N.O's for Laroi Glover?
 

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Well the original poster was of course being ridiculous with the #1 pick scenario; however, I DO see Sean Payton trading for Romo if he gets the Saints job. I could see us getting a 4th for him easily and it could turn out to be a steal for NO.
 

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JackMagist said:
Well the original poster was of course being ridiculous with the #1 pick scenario; however, I DO see Sean Payton trading for Romo if he gets the Saints job. I could see us getting a 4th for him easily and it could turn out to be a steal for NO.

I thought there was a post on here a while back where a poster quoted a source as saying Jerry turned down a 2nd or maybe it was a 3rd for Tony Romo last year.
 

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I thought there was a post on here a while back where a poster quoted a source as saying Jerry turned down a 2nd or maybe it was a 3rd for Tony Romo last year.
If so I missed it and have heard nothing of that sort myself. Maybe they are even higher on Romo than I have believed that they are. Personally I think he is a very good talent so maybe the team thinks so too or maybe they just didn't have anyone else and didn't want to take a chance with Henson being slow to develop.
 

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I bet the Saints let Bentley walk and bring in Al Johnson for cheap if they hire Payton.
 

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Hey while we are at it maybe we can trade Romo for their whole draft :D


A first for Romo is just as crazy.....a second maybe or likely a third
 

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Saints home in on coach decision
Payton, Carthon appear to have separated themselves from pack
Tuesday, January 17, 2006
By Mike Triplett
and Jimmy Smith%%par%%Staff writers
The Saints are leaning heavily toward offering their head coaching job to Sean Payton, according to league sources, and they likely will decide between Payton and Maurice Carthon within the next day or two.

Former Green Bay Packers coach Mike Sherman remains a viable candidate, but he appears to be a distant third choice.

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis has elected not to speak with the media until the search process is over, but spokesman Greg Bensel said that no offer had been made as of Monday night, disputing a radio report to the contrary.

The team apparently is finished with interviews and now is evaluating the candidates and possibly negotiating a deal.

As expected from the outset of this coaching search, the Saints are focusing on long-time NFL assistants who have experienced success in the league and have worked for winning coaches.

Payton, the assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach for the Dallas Cowboys, has worked under Bill Parcells, Jim Fassel, Jon Gruden and Ray Rhodes.

Carthon, the offensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns, spent most of his career playing and coaching under Parcells, also working alongside Bill Belichick, Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis.

The Saints appear to be following the same thought process as most of the 10 teams in the NFL who are replacing head coaches this season -- opting for an up-and-coming NFL assistant rather than a former head coach.

In a year where few "hot names" have emerged leaguewide, Payton and Carthon have each received interest from at least two other NFL teams during this year's interview process.

Payton, 42, seems to have been the Saints' front-runner throughout their coaching search, which began two weeks ago Monday when the team fired Jim Haslett.

Payton has worked under Parcells only for the past three seasons -- a relationship that no doubt leaps off his résumé. But he began his NFL coaching career as a contemporary of Gruden and John Fox, both of whom remain close friends and sing his praises.

"Sean has what I call the 'it factor,' " said Fox, who served as the New York Giants' defensive coordinator while Payton was the Giants' offensive coordinator, going to a Super Bowl together in 2001. "He has the ability to get it done. He is competitive and is deserving of a head coaching position in this league.

"He is a smart guy and brings toughness. He can be hard on guys, yet get their respect at the same time."

Said Gruden, who was the Philadelphia Eagles' offensive coordinator while Payton was the quarterbacks coach in 1997: "Sean is not only a good friend, but an outstanding coach. His accomplishments speak for themselves."

Parcells, who would be in the best position to evaluate the merits of both Payton and Carthon, would prefer not to comment about his current or former assistants until after they are hired, according to a team spokesman.

Crennel and Fassel also were unavailable for comment Monday.

The most telling show of support for Payton may have been Parcells' decision to hand over his play-calling duties to him this season for the first time since Parcells was in New England.

Parcells and Payton have clashing styles -- with Payton a West Coast disciple who likes to get more creative and Parcells having more of a conservative run-first nature. But the two of them seemed to work well together.

Sometimes Payton is criticized for overthinking his game plans rather than paring it down.

"I've been around him a little while, and I have confidence in him," Parcells told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram earlier this year. "I got to watch him, though. He can get the virus."

In that same article, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones admitted that Parcells and Payton butt heads at times but credited Payton for lobbying for his ideas rather than being a "yes man."

"I like the way he works with Bill. He has thick skin," Jones said. "He has Bill's ear, and that's very impressive."

Ironically, the most negative event of Payton's coaching career was when he was stripped of his play-calling duties by Fassel in 2002, sparking a late-season turnaround for the Giants and eventually leading Payton to move on to the Cowboys' staff.

But Fassel speaks highly of Payton and told the Star-Telegram, "After the year was over, I wanted to give it back to him, but I wasn't really sure how the organization would feel about it. I never wanted him to leave. But I understand how he'd feel in those circumstances."

The Cowboys' passing offense has been more middle-of-the-pack than overwhelmingly successful. But Payton is credited for helping middle-of-the-pack quarterbacks like Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde and, especially, Drew Bledsoe to some of the best production of their careers.

Carthon is described as much more of a Parcells-like disciplinarian. He received compliments from Cleveland- and Dallas-area writers for instilling that discipline in his players, though he would not necessarily be considered a "players coach."

According to one writer, he may be better suited as a head coach than a position coach.

Carthon, who spent most of his coaching career as a running backs coach, served as offensive coordinator in Detroit and Dallas but called plays for the first time this year in Cleveland.

He received mixed reviews in that department. The Browns scored the fewest points in the NFL (just below the Saints), and both Crennel and Carthon were criticized for not getting rookie receiver Braylon Edwards and tailback Reuben Droughns involved early enough in the offense.

Still, Carthon's learning curve under Crennel, a first-time head coach himself, may have been just as valuable as the years he spent learning under Parcells.

Reportedly, one of the selling points when Crennel interviewed for the job in Cleveland was that Carthon likely would be his offensive coordinator, and the two of them showed good chemistry their first season.

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Mike Triplett can be reached at mtriplett@timespicayune.com or (504) 826-3405. Jimmy Smith can be reached at jsmith@timespicayune.com or (504) 826-3814.
 

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rcaldw said:
Ok, from the rumors we were hearing, Sean Payton was a big Tony Romo fan. So, I'm sure as soon as he goes to New Orleans he will want to take that big time QB with him. How bout it, do the Saints now give their #1 pick for Big Time Tony!!!?:bow:

Maybe not probable....

Every salesman knows that people will buy anything so one never knows what people will buy until the deal is done.
 

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I'll say it again, but I think we'd be better served keeping Payton and grooming him for the HC gig in 2007/2008. It would make the transition from the BP era much smoother than having to bring in a new face with new staff.

I shudder to think that Zimmer may be the next in line for the Dallas job and, if JJ was willing to put Campo there, may think that Zimmer deserves a shot.

:eek:
 

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rcaldw said:
Ok, from the rumors we were hearing, Sean Payton was a big Tony Romo fan. So, I'm sure as soon as he goes to New Orleans he will want to take that big time QB with him. How bout it, do the Saints now give their #1 pick for Big Time Tony!!!?:bow:

Or he could just use the #1 on Leinart like any sane and rational person would do.
 

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rcaldw said:
Ok, from the rumors we were hearing, Sean Payton was a big Tony Romo fan. So, I'm sure as soon as he goes to New Orleans he will want to take that big time QB with him. How bout it, do the Saints now give their #1 pick for Big Time Tony!!!?:bow:

A Franchise QB like Romo normally demands atleast two first rounders:)
 

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HomeOfLegends said:
I thought there was a post on here a while back where a poster quoted a source as saying Jerry turned down a 2nd or maybe it was a 3rd for Tony Romo last year.
It was a 3rd and I believe it was the Jets but that Im not sure of.
 

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A Franchise QB like Romo normally demands atleast two first rounders:)

FINALLY, someone who at least picked up on the fact that my original post was complete sarcasm based upon the Romo worshippers around here. They talk about how great he is, and how great Sean thought he is, so lets see if Sean thinks he is. If Romo is all that, why wouldn't you spend your #1 on him? After all, HE HASN'T BEEN OUT OF FOOTBALL. lol He is primed and ready, locked and loaded. In fact, he has already told us all himself, that as soon as he, the mighty Romo, walks out on the field, there will be no more debate. Man, if Payton has seen all that behind the scenes, (you know, where the real football guys live), then I'll bet that is his first move. Forget Leinert, or Young. Sean will give us a #1 for Romo. Then again, would Big Bill part with such talent for such a paltry price?
 

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rcaldw said:
FINALLY, someone who at least picked up on the fact that my original post was complete sarcasm based upon the Romo worshippers around here. They talk about how great he is, and how great Sean thought he is, so lets see if Sean thinks he is. If Romo is all that, why wouldn't you spend your #1 on him? After all, HE HASN'T BEEN OUT OF FOOTBALL. lol He is primed and ready, locked and loaded. In fact, he has already told us all himself, that as soon as he, the mighty Romo, walks out on the field, there will be no more debate. Man, if Payton has seen all that behind the scenes, (you know, where the real football guys live), then I'll bet that is his first move. Forget Leinert, or Young. Sean will give us a #1 for Romo. Then again, would Big Bill part with such talent for such a paltry price?
I got that it was sarcasm; I just don't think that you are THAT far off the mark. I do think that Payton will make a serious run at getting Romo if he goes to NO. As I said the 1st is ridiculous and a 4th is more in line with Romo's history but I could see us getting a 3rd or even a 2nd if Payton is really as high on him as he seems to be.
 
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