If picking top 15 which position do you target first

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Graham has similar production in half a CFB season (4 TFLs, 3 sacks), to Mazi's entire UMich career (7 TFLs, 0.5 sacks). He's a player. Mazi was a workout warrior all the way.
 

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Graham
Walker
Jeanty

If one of the QBs I like is there (Ewers, Ward) I’m taking him but there’s a snowball’s chance in hades Dallas would do that.

I could also be sold on trading Micah (only if it’s for multiple firsts) and taking one of the top DEs.
 

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Graham
Walker
Jeanty

If one of the QBs I like is there (Ewers, Ward) I’m taking him but there’s a snowball’s chance in hades Dallas would do that.

I could also be sold on trading Micah (only if it’s for multiple firsts) and taking one of the top DEs.
Graham has the best numbers Walker looks the meanest
 

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DT.
but you never know til your on the clock what the draft tide brings in.
all things equal...gimmie a DT.
 

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If you are picking top 15, what position would you target first?

Beast RB
Stud WR,
G
DT
DE

There’s so many holes on this team. The lack of weapons kills them in the red zone but they keep getting whooped because they can’t win the fight up front.
Top talent that falls at a money position.

Not RB…
 

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If we do end up picking in the top 15 then JJ needs to take advantage of it.
My order would be DT, DE, OL, WR, RB

DT- I know that JJ doesn't like to use our first pick on a DT, but I think that's usually because normally, by the time we're picking mid-late rd 1, the really good ones are already taken. He doesn't feel the value is there and truth be told, he has gotten talked into and burned on a few late rounders recently. (Taco, Mazi) He always feels like the value is better spent on an O-lineman, CB or a WR rather than a average DT, and TBH, he's right. But we must address our interior D-line issues, if he can get a top caliber DT in the top of the draft, he must make that move.

DE- is a very close second IMHO. You can never have too many pass rushers and we definitely don't so I'd be on board with that as well. However, I think they will feel good enough with Micah, D-Law and a retuning Williams to not feel so needy here. Possible RD 2 pick if a good one is there.

OL- We can definitely use more O-line help too. I think there is a decent chance that Steele will be gone one way or another. So they could either draft a new RT, move Guyton to RT and either draft a new LT or move T Smith to LT and find a new LG somewhere.

WR- Lamb, Dak and this offense need help badly. They must have someone besides CD that defenses must account for, preferably either a big possession target or a top deep speed threat. I'd take a precise rout runner with great hands, over a better athlete.

RB- it's funny for me to have RB so far down the list when I have been screaming to draft a new RB for 4 years! But, picking in the top 15 gives us the chance to properly fix another major hole and still have the ability to get a very good RB early in the draft (rd2-3) with the elevated draft position in those rds. But we need and have needed, a new (real top flight) RB for years.
 

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If we do end up picking in the top 15 then JJ needs to take advantage of it.
My order would be DT, DE, OL, WR, RB

DT- I know that JJ doesn't like to use our first pick on a DT, but I think that's usually because normally, by the time we're picking mid-late rd 1, the really good ones are already taken. He doesn't feel the value is there and truth be told, he has gotten talked into and burned on a few late rounders recently. (Taco, Mazi) He always feels like the value is better spent on an O-lineman, CB or a WR rather than a average DT, and TBH, he's right. But we must address our interior D-line issues, if he can get a top caliber DT in the top of the draft, he must make that move.

DE- is a very close second IMHO. You can never have too many pass rushers and we definitely don't so I'd be on board with that as well. However, I think they will feel good enough with Micah, D-Law and a retuning Williams to not feel so needy here. Possible RD 2 pick if a good one is there.

OL- We can definitely use more O-line help too. I think there is a decent chance that Steele will be gone one way or another. So they could either draft a new RT, move Guyton to RT and either draft a new LT or move T Smith to LT and find a new LG somewhere.

WR- Lamb, Dak and this offense need help badly. They must have someone besides CD that defenses must account for, preferably either a big possession target or a top deep speed threat. I'd take a precise rout runner with great hands, over a better athlete.

RB- it's funny for me to have RB so far down the list when I have been screaming to draft a new RB for 4 years! But, picking in the top 15 gives us the chance to properly fix another major hole and still have the ability to get a very good RB early in the draft (rd2-3) with the elevated draft position in those rds. But we need and have needed, a new (real top flight) RB for years.
I can understand your emphasis on pass rushers but look what that obsession has done for the Cowboys? It results in us picking players we HOPE have pass rush skills and nothing else. SO our Run D sucks and has sucked for over a decade.
 

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I’m a big believer in you do not draft a RB in the 1st round unless he’s special, and even then, never in the top 10.

However it’s looking more and more like Jeanty around 15 is a very good pick.

Throw in this FO’s laziness and it’s maybe even a lock.
Not drafting a RB in the 1st round has been the conventional wisdom because of longevity and value reasons.

But at the same time, if you have a game changer there, you get him for cheap for 4-5 years.
 

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If you are picking top 15, what position would you target first?

Beast RB
Stud WR,
G
DT
DE

There’s so many holes on this team. The lack of weapons kills them in the red zone but they keep getting whooped because they can’t win the fight up front.
I only trust our Front Office with WR and Guard.

They flub on every single other one.
 

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I can understand your emphasis on pass rushers but look what that obsession has done for the Cowboys? It results in us picking players we HOPE have pass rush skills and nothing else. SO our Run D sucks and has sucked for over a decade.
A stud DT is about interior pressure and run stopping. That's why it's above DE for me
 

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No running back top 3 rounds, you can get one in the 4th or 5th that can do 80-90% of a 1st rounder, we need starters everywhere.
 

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No running back top 3 rounds, you can get one in the 4th or 5th that can do 80-90% of a 1st rounder, we need starters everywhere.
Most of the contending teams have a back that was taken high. They should take Jeanty high or take one of the other top backs in the 2nd or 3rd.
 

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Graham DT Michigan
Wakler DT Kentucky(#1 choice but doubt he falls to us if closer to 15)
Jeanty RB BSU Dude does look legit-legit.
Egbuka WR OSU or Bond WR UT. WR talent is needed, and cheap at that. Both guys have some wheels to stretch the defense.

Seems OSU has some edge prospects worth watching more?


Passing on OL in the first.

My ideal scenario is Smith is the LT, Guyton goes back to RT.
Draft a guard in day 2/3.
Tuimoloau and Sawyer from OSU are somewhat mid-tier IMO. Tuimoloau is a pure power end who doesn't have much twitch, and Sawyer has more juice, but doesn't make many plays.
 

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Most of the contending teams have a back that was taken high. They should take Jeanty high or take one of the other top backs in the 2nd or 3rd.
THAT is surface skimming. Some of those backs were taken in years when there simply were not that many top backs in the draft. THIS year the draft is fat with find prospects. NO to taking a RB in the first three rds
OK I just remembered our Moronic GM threw away our fourth rd pick again
BUT we got a bunch of fifth rd picks. We should be able to package a couple of them into a decent 4th since it seems VERY Likely our draft position will make our picks rather valuable to other teams
 

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Defense Defense Defense & a RB around round 3 . If you have a defense that can’t get stops turnovers cut into time of possession your spinning your wheels .
 

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I feel we are going to be in the top ten, and you have to remember that there are probably going to be three quarterbacks taken ahead of us.
If Mason Graham is there you take him Are best bet would be a trade back and pick up an extra pick.
Would love Jentry but this draft is loaded with some good RB that we can get with a high 2nd or 3rd
 
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