If Pitts falls

[boysfanindc]

There are several quality CB's that can be had in the second round, even the 3rd.

 

[quickccc]

Thank God you're not running our draft then.
I won't mind trading back into the 1st rd but trading the farm is reckless.
There are a good amount of solid CBs from everything I've read about this draft. No need to sell the farm.

My sentiments exactly.
But while they mean well, some fans probably don't understand the draft and how to move and direct.sensibly,

frankly i'm for either staying put at No.10,- according to the value of my draft board, meaning if key players are still on my board (ala Lamb)
then there's no need for me to be sell the farm to move up,
..or if those key players are no longer on my board, then becomes a scenario where we
consider moving down (just a few spots) collect key high picks, and draft the highest grade guy left on my board. (ala like we did for Travis Fredrick)

- and i don't get this trade-Gallup deal going around. I think it's sumthin' folks conjured up for the sake of having fun with draft trades.
why would i give up a very good player in Gallup, whose value and ability would come in splendid, should there be a significant injury to
Cooper or Lamb ?

- Plus if Gallup departed in free agency, we'd still get a significant compensatory pick for him.

 

[quickccc]

So Pitts will be passed by teams who'll take a tackle and cornerback before him? Doesn't seem likely...

Not if they are hyping up to be a " generational" TE.

i just wonder who was supposedly the last Generation TE that entered the NFL ?

 

[Carson]

So Pitts will be passed by teams who'll take a tackle and cornerback before him? Doesn't seem likely...

Falcons? Doubt it. Just paid Hurst
Bengals? Yeah
Dolphins? Possible. But don’t think they will go TE
Lions? Just drafted Hockenson in the first
Panthers? This is where I see him going. They just got Donald and lost a few offensive weapons
Broncos? Fant and other needs

Im not arguing with you that it WILL happen. I’m simply implying the fact that it’s more possible to happen now than it was a few weeks back.

 

[Carson]

Not if they are hyping up to be a " generational" TE.

i just wonder who was supposedly the last Generation TE that entered the NFL ?

My guess is Vernon Davis or Kellen Winslow Jr

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Falcons? Doubt it. Just paid Hurst
Bengals? Yeah
Dolphins? Possible. But don’t think they will go TE
Lions? Just drafted Hockenson in the first
Panthers? This is where I see him going. They just got Donald and lost a few offensive weapons
Broncos? Fant and other needs

Im not arguing with you that it WILL happen. I’m simply implying the fact that it’s more possible to happen now than it was a few weeks back.

Nice to see somebody who'll discuss instead of insist they are right. Appreciate it.

We have to remember Pitts, while listed as a tight end, has as his strength catching the ball. Dolphins need receivers, Pitts fills that bill nicely, doesn't matter what you call the guy. Bengals need to first protect Burrow, while I can see them taking Pitts since he's such a great prospect and IF teams go by bpa he's basically a no brainer for them, I really think Sewell is their guy.

Agreed Panthers will take him if he's there at their slot....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

If the tight end falls to number 10 . I personally would do , whatever I had to do. To trade right back up in the first round to get one of the best corners. Next year’s first round and Gallup. And possibly maybe a second and . ? Yes I would give the farm away just like I was getting a quarterback.

desparation is the worst thing you can do.....that's way too much to give up to take a CB, which may not even be a top 10 player. I would wait until second round, and then trade up. this is a deeper CB class than other years and the DT position is deep in middle round talent and lacks top level talent.

 

[visionary]

Keep your powder dry
No trading up into rd 1 but if there is a player at the top of rd 2 that we gave graded as rd 1 then I would try to use my 4th to trade up in rd 2 to get him

 

[Carson]

Nice to see somebody who'll discuss instead of insist they are right. Appreciate it.

We have to remember Pitts, while listed as a tight end, has as his strength catching the ball. Dolphins need receivers, Pitts fills that bill nicely, doesn't matter what you call the guy. Bengals need to first protect Burrow, while I can see them taking Pitts since he's such a great prospect and IF teams go by bpa he's basically a no brainer for them, I really think Sewell is their guy.

Agreed Panthers will take him if he's there at their slot....

My two cents on the Bengals.

They drafted Jonah Williams high and he is their left tackle. They released former starting RT Bobby Hart to free up some cap. However, they went out and signed Riley Reiff. Now I know, Reiff is an older vet. But he buys them 2-3 years at RT. They have Higgins, Boyd and Tate at receiver. Chase was Burrows teammate at LSU and I would believe Burrow would want him as Chase was a key component to winning the heisman and national championship.

I just see Chase as the most logical pick. They know at 4 they can get Sewell or Slater. So no reason to sign Reiff.

Higgins, Chase and Boyd would be legit weapons for Joe

 

[the playmaker]

It’s called desperation mode I’m tired of waiting for a championship. That doesn’t mean how much talent we receive. We still don’t have the right coaching or owners. LOL is this frustration or watt

.....and GM

 

[big dog cowboy]

For starters, it's very very unlikely Pitts falls to 10. Additionally I'm not giving away any draft picks to move. Just stay at 10 and get a CB.

 

[blueblood70]

desparation is the worst thing you can do.....that's way too much to give up to take a CB, which may not even be a top 10 player. I would wait until second round, and then trade up. this is a deeper CB class than other years and the DT position is deep in middle round talent and lacks top level talent.

im sorry but most expert evaluators say that Horn, Surtain, Farley and Parsons are NOT A REACH at 10..just because fans dont see it doesnt make it true..they are all worth a pick at 10 if you ask many experts,.,so you take who you believe improves your team , Pitts is not a big enough improvement as he will take balls away from Gallup, Jarwin and Shultz so hes adding talent to an already talented group that only so many balls go around and that means more trades ie move gallup cut shultz or Jarwin etc etc

So you must switch to BPA ON Defense. If you can trade down a few spots still get one of those 4 guy's then do so but its not reach to take any of those 4 at 10, its been discussed..sure BPA would most likely on offense but the only goal to improve the team and most of that is on defense, period..

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Keep your powder dry
No trading up into rd 1 but if there is a player at the top of rd 2 that we gave graded as rd 1 then I would try to use my 4th to trade up in rd 2 to get him

Not to say teams all use and always go by the draft chart, but assuming they do, Dallas would have to swap the no. 44 and 98 picks just to move up 10 spots in the second. Now that might be a good move, IF there's a guy that they projected as a first rounder they think will be there at 34. Of course you have to have another team to make the trade...

 

[quickccc]

Nice to see somebody who'll discuss instead of insist they are right. Appreciate it.

We have to remember Pitts, while listed as a tight end, has as his strength catching the ball. Dolphins need receivers, Pitts fills that bill nicely, doesn't matter what you call the guy. Bengals need to first protect Burrow, while I can see them taking Pitts since he's such a great prospect and IF teams go by bpa he's basically a no brainer for them, I really think Sewell is their guy.

Agreed Panthers will take him if he's there at their slot....

Big rumor Talk is Burrows is really pulling for Cincy to take LSU WR Jav'orr Chase. Could that be the reason Philly surprisingly traded down ?
Oddly i'm not hearing Bama WR Devontae Smith being hyped up as much as Chase.

Burrow really does need OL with da quickness .. that was the reason why he ended up busted up with a serious season ending knee injury.
But with the way they operate - and they never seem to trade away from their draft slot in 1st round- they could move OL back to the 2nd or 3rd round.

Now what happens if somehow Pewell slides to Cowboys 10th overall spot in the first round ?

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Big rumor Talk is Burrows is really pulling for Cincy to take LSU WR Jav'orr Chase. Could that be the reason Philly surprisingly traded down ?
Oddly i'm not hearing Bama WR Devontae Smith being hyped up as much as Chase.

Burrow really does need OL with da quickness .. that was the reason why he ended up busted up with a serious season ending knee injury.
But with the way they operate - and they never seem to trade away from their draft slot in 1st round- they could move OL back to the 2nd or 3rd round.

Now what happens if somehow Pewell slides to Cowboys 10th overall spot in the first round ?

Guess it depends how much the Bengals staff will listen to Burrow....

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

It’s called desperation mode I’m tired of waiting for a championship. That doesn’t mean how much talent we receive. We still don’t have the right coaching or owners. LOL is this frustration or watt

Offense should be this team's strength so why add to it add the expense of fixing a terrible defense?

I don't care if this guy(Pitts) is Gronk, Tony Gonzales, and Kellen Winslow all rolled into one we need to get defense. Ours sucked pitifully in 2020 and it was embarrassing to watch for the Cowboy fan.

And if you happened to watch the Tampa playoff march to win the NFC Championship and then the SB, the old adage is still true ----- Great defense wins championships. Got to fix that if we want to see a return to the top.

Offense sells tickets and defense brings home the trophy.

The only way I go offense is if Pewell slips to 10.

 

[Carson]

Big rumor Talk is Burrows is really pulling for Cincy to take LSU WR Jav'orr Chase. Could that be the reason Philly surprisingly traded down ?
Oddly i'm not hearing Bama WR Devontae Smith being hyped up as much as Chase.

Burrow really does need OL with da quickness .. that was the reason why he ended up busted up with a serious season ending knee injury.
But with the way they operate - and they never seem to trade away from their draft slot in 1st round- they could move OL back to the 2nd or 3rd round.

Now what happens if somehow Pewell slides to Cowboys 10th overall spot in the first round ?

If Sewell is there at 10, you moonwalk that card in less than 5 seconds and celebrate

 

[quickccc]

im sorry but most expert evaluators say that Horn, Surtain, Farley and Parsons are NOT A REACH at 10..just because fans dont see it doesnt make it true..they are all worth a pick at 10 if you ask many experts,.,so you take who you believe improves your team , Pitts is not a big enough improvement as he will take balls away from Gallup, Jarwin and Shultz so hes adding talent to an already talented group that only so many balls go around and that means more trades ie move gallup cut shultz or Jarwin etc etc

So you must switch to BPA ON Defense. If you can trade down a few spots still get one of those 4 guy's then do so but its not reach to take any of those 4 at 10, its been discussed..sure BPA would most likely on offense but the only goal to improve the team and most of that is on defense, period..

if we pick the " Generational " TE as Pitts is hyped up to be, i'm not even worried about balls, catches and touches for Jarwin and Schulz.
They immediately become afterthoughts and possible trade value.
Pitts as the 10th overall immediately becomes a high priority for Kellen Moore to scheme and find ways to not only involve Pitts, but find the best ways to exploit his talents and explosiveness.

yes, the after effect is someone else is gonna lose touches - that could be Gallup if the OC is not imaginative and creative enough to find spots,role and occasions for both Pitts and Gallup.

 

[quickccc]

If Sewell is there at 10, you moonwalk that card in less than 5 seconds and celebrate

and if Kyle Pitts is also there too, along with Sewell ... ?

 

[Carson]

and if Kyle Pitts is also there too, along with Sewell ... ?

Making me think too hard this morning! That’s a win win