If Rush got all 1st team reps like Dak, would he have similar impact as Dak?

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If Cooper Rush got all of the 1st team reps and attention that Dak got would he have a similar impact on a football game that Dak has and if so would he be much cheaper allowing us to put a better team on the field around him?


Of course Dak is better but if Rush had the same opportunities as Dak is the gap between them so narrow that it doesn’t make a difference between the two?

Keep in mind that Dak has 1 playoff win as a starter and he has done a lot of stat padding on weak teams.
 

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If Cooper Rush got all of the 1st team reps and attention that Dak got would he have a similar impact on a football game that Dak has and if so would he be much cheaper allowing us to put a better team on the field around him?


Of course Dak is better but if Rush had the same opportunities as Dak is the gap between them so narrow that it doesn’t make a difference between the two?

Keep in mind that Dak has 1 playoff win as a starter and he has done a lot of stat padding on weak teams.
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If Cooper Rush got all of the 1st team reps and attention that Dak got would he have a similar impact on a football game that Dak has and if so would he be much cheaper allowing us to put a better team on the field around him?


Of course Dak is better but if Rush had the same opportunities as Dak is the gap between them so narrow that it doesn’t make a difference between the two?

Keep in mind that Dak has 1 playoff win as a starter and he has done a lot of stat padding on weak teams.
Cooper Rush is maybe Tyler Heinikie at best, and we should be glad if he is. But that is still a backup level QB. If your plan is to win a couple games while your starter is out, he could be good for that. If the plan is to tank for a top pick, you probably want to start Grier.
If you are looking to go with Rush as your guy, the 2020 Washington team is probably your ceiling
 

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Rush doesn't have some of the intangibles that Dak has like arm strength and theoretically the ability to make plays with his legs.
But he seems to be a more decisive player and a more accurate thrower with the plays he is comfortable with.

Cooper Rush makes just under a million dollars a year DAk makes 40 million.

Some talent can be had in free agency for 39 million.

Not sure it would be enough to be able to get to a super bowl but I'm sure we could make the playoffs and go one and done
 

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What Rush accomplished is that he exposed the weaknesses of Dak once and for all that the latter’s unbelievers have been ranting about for years.

He made Dak’s weaknesses regarding poor, if any, lack of anticipation, holding onto the ball way too long, poor mechanics and pocket presence very clear for all see that they cannot deny, when the roster surrounding the QBs is the same.

There is a reason they never let Romo compete for his job back or work with the starting team anymore, because the difference was as clear as the difference between night and day. Dak has a weak psyche too and he folds like a deer staring into the headlights when the pressure rises, meaning the Jones boys in collaboration with Garrett basically ruined a short SB window for the mediocre QB on a hot streak with a loaded roster. Dak could have never handled Romo looking over his shoulder.

And now they are stuck in a NO-TRADE clause of a 160 million dollar contract for a mediocre QB.
 
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Rush will fail but, he at least he's serviceable. spent time in the system and not a ton of game film. His supporting cast can keep him afloat.
 

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I think the offense is better with Cooper Rush. Remember, Cooper played last years super bowl runner up not the Giants or Skins. They have a lot of really good players. The first half was almost perfect. I don't know what happened in the second half. It looked like Moore took a page from the Garret playbook on how to protect a 14 point lead with a mere 2 quarters remaining. Instead of play action, he was calling these runs right up the middle that were very predictable. Its unfortunate, but Zeke doesn't have the speed to bounce it outside. So, when he's in the game on a running down, the defense pretty much knows the run is going between the tackles.
 

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If Cooper Rush got all of the 1st team reps and attention that Dak got would he have a similar impact on a football game that Dak has and if so would he be much cheaper allowing us to put a better team on the field around him?


Of course Dak is better but if Rush had the same opportunities as Dak is the gap between them so narrow that it doesn’t make a difference between the two?

Keep in mind that Dak has 1 playoff win as a starter and he has done a lot of stat padding on weak teams.
Both of them are quality back-ups and the faster we move on from Dak is the better
 

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Rush doesn't have some of the intangibles that Dak has like arm strength and theoretically the ability to make plays with his legs.
But he seems to be a more decisive player and a more accurate thrower with the plays he is comfortable with.

Having more arm strength than Rush is not an intangible. Dak has decent arm strength, but it’s not anywhere near elite level, plus his release is way too slow and he often gets caught throwing duds off his back foot.
 

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If Cooper Rush got all of the 1st team reps and attention that Dak got would he have a similar impact on a football game that Dak has and if so would he be much cheaper allowing us to put a better team on the field around him?


Of course Dak is better but if Rush had the same opportunities as Dak is the gap between them so narrow that it doesn’t make a difference between the two?

Keep in mind that Dak has 1 playoff win as a starter and he has done a lot of stat padding on weak teams.
The best part of Rush has me the most concerned about Dak. Rush hangs in the pocket when clutter is around him then makes a throw. I guess playing with backup linemen in the preseason helps him when it comes to dealing with pressure. Dak seems to see ghosts and panics. The last guy I noticed that did that was Sam Dornald and we know how that worked out for him.
 

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Rush doesn't have some of the intangibles that Dak has like arm strength and theoretically the ability to make plays with his legs.
But he seems to be a more decisive player and a more accurate thrower with the plays he is comfortable with.

Cooper Rush makes just under a million dollars a year DAk makes 40 million.

Some talent can be had in free agency for 39 million.

Not sure it would be enough to be able to get to a super bowl but I'm sure we could make the playoffs and go one and done
If Rush was the starter his pay check would become very expensive
 

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The best part of Rush has me the most concerned about Dak. Rush hangs in the pocket when clutter is around him then makes a throw. I guess playing with backup linemen in the preseason helps him when it comes to dealing with pressure. Dak seems to see ghosts and panics. The last guy I noticed that did that was Sam Dornald and we know how that worked out for him.

This is in his draft profile and he’s exemplified it consistently, year in and year out, since he’s been in the league. His pocket awareness has been straight garbage and it’s the offensive line that masked his warts to a large degree all this time.
 

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Having more arm strength than Rush is not an intangible. Dak has decent arm strength, but it’s not anywhere near elite level, plus his release is way too slow and he often gets caught throwing duds off his back foot.

Agreed I always thought Dak had adequate arm strength.
But the fact that he hesitates and holds the ball too long. Causes some problems.

It's a small sample size but Rush seems decisive and confident in his throws.
He gets the ball out quick and hits the receivers in stride this is pleasant to watch.
Continually watching the ball be thrown behind receivers because of hesitation is frustrating after a while
 

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Let's see how he does in more than one game first. Dak hasn't been inspiring of late, and I think the injuries may be accelerating a decline, but let's not forget that he also has multiple big games against good opponents.
 

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I get we’re all excited about Rush winning but seriously, Dak at his best is better than Rush at his best.
 

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The NFL doesn't have much film on Rush. Every QB has favorite routes or tendencies as some call it. Wait until the NFL figures Rush out before saying there isn't a big difference. It normally takes four or five games for the NFL to learn a QB's tendencies. Only then will we see how good Rush can be.
 

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Fans…..sad. You cannot compare Dak and Cooper Rush based on a game vs the TB defense with inexperienced starters and a game against the Bengals defense with guys getting their second start.

The game plan was better. Our defense allowed fewer points. The TB defense produced much better pass rush, run defense, and coverage. Rush is what he is. A QB that was on the practice squad all summer until last week. Let’s give him credit. Let’s give Noah Brown credit. But let’s not be silly. Cooper Rush is not in the same hemisphere as a QB. Just stop it!

I guess if he gets another win, we will start the discussion of whether Rush is elite or not, if he belongs inthe top 10, top 15, or top 20? No, we won’t.
 

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Agreed I always thought Dak had adequate arm strength.
But the fact that he hesitates and holds the ball too long. Causes some problems.

It's a small sample size but Rush seems decisive and confident in his throws.
He gets the ball out quick and hits the receivers in stride this is pleasant to watch.
Continually watching the ball be thrown behind receivers because of hesitation is frustrating after a while
I can’t stand Broaddus sometimes but his point of maybe keeping quarterbacks for 5 years and then moving on is a good idea. No matter what any of us think of Dak, he still would have brought in draft capital.
 

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If Cooper Rush got all of the 1st team reps and attention that Dak got would he have a similar impact on a football game that Dak has and if so would he be much cheaper allowing us to put a better team on the field around him?


Of course Dak is better but if Rush had the same opportunities as Dak is the gap between them so narrow that it doesn’t make a difference between the two?

Keep in mind that Dak has 1 playoff win as a starter and he has done a lot of stat padding on weak teams.

I think the ceiling is lower with Rush. Dak at least has the potential to take us there. Rush tops out much sooner.

Although, as of right now, arguing in Daks favor is difficult to do. The guy we've seen for the better part of last season (post Denver) to today is NOT worth the cap gap.

I suppose it depends on if you think he can pull himself back together.
 
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