If Sean Payton comes to Dallas

peplaw06;4863177 said:
OL has been our problem for going on 3 years now, and Garrett hasn't fixed it yet.

This might be my biggest complaint with Garrett supporters.

One of the primary reasons they champion him is because he has improved our roster.

And yet, the unit on the team that has long needed the most improvement has been marginalized, ignored and haphazardly put together under Garrett. Why hasn't he improved the OL? He's tried and they suck worse than ever.

It's the unit that Garrett fans constantly point to as the reason why his offense doesn't work. Why our head coach isn't getting real, tangible results. The major impediment to his eventual greatness.

If Garrett absolutely needs a great OL for his offense to work (and consequently, to look like the genius he is purported to be), why the hell doesn't (or can't) he improve that part of the roster?
 
CATCH17;4863186 said:
Im guessing he would at least attempt to coach around it and do some things to help a bad oline out. Unlike Garrett.

If you can't adjust your system to your talent then you shouldn't be coaching.

You're never going to have a perfect team in this era of football.
Callahan and Garrett have both tried to coach around it. That is obvious if you watch the games. It isn't enough. They both know it and so do all of us.
 
Hostile;4863147 said:
The OL is our problem. Don't tell me he would fix it. So will Garrett.

I don't think Payton or many other coaches would have gone into this season having done so little to address the OL problems/questions we had, especially knowing you're flipping your Tackles.
 
Kilyin;4863197 said:
I don't think Payton or many other coaches would have gone into this season having done so little to address the OL problems/questions we had, especially knowing you're flipping your Tackles.
You can speculate that and I can speculate that given our cap room and other needs he would have had to.

Neither of us can prove the other wrong.
 
Has anyone really payed attention to what the Saints offense is predicated around?

Wouldn't you agree that Romo friendly also means running the ball more effectively?

Is that what the Saints do to beat their opponents?

I wonder what would happen on this board the first drop back from Payton's offense and Romo is smacked in the face?

Next HC up?
 
Kilyin;4863197 said:
I don't think Payton or many other coaches would have gone into this season having done so little to address the OL problems/questions we had, especially knowing you're flipping your Tackles.

Improving the defense was the first priority this offseason.

You wouldn't know it with the injuries to everyone but they've gotten better.
 
Hostile;4863173 said:
Nate can be, I agree. I think he put Timmy Mac in his place.

Hate loves his former teammate and is backing him more than giving a thumbs down to Payton.

And no, Timmy Mac put Jerry in his place, I guess you saw that interview huh.
 
Hostile;4863192 said:
Callahan and Garrett have both tried to coach around it. That is obvious if you watch the games. It isn't enough. They both know it and so do all of us.

I see a team that runs long routes with receivers that aren't really great route runners, has no screen game to speak of, waggles / bootlegs ?, makes them sit in their stance until the last second, tries to use a power running game when they are more finesse players, and 9 times out of 10 wants to run the ball out of formations that are heavy with TE's and a fullback from anywhere on the field.

There is no deception with this offense. What you see is what you get.


We're at our best when we can get away from that mess and go to more of a urgent / hurry up offense.
 
birdwells1;4863221 said:
Hate loves his former teammate and is backing him more than giving a thumbs down to Payton.

And no, Timmy Mac put Jerry in his place, I guess you saw that interview huh.
I did, and thought he looked foolish to be quite honest.

I haven't given a thumbs down to Payton either. I am just not blind to the fact our OL is by far our biggest issue, not the HC, and that Payton could not turn this chicken crap OL into chicken salad.

It will get fixed. It has to. I personally think any coach with this OL who isn't 0-11 is doing something right. They do not play together. Not enough right, but something is right to be in games and win some.
 
Numbers921;4863238 said:
What happened to the homers' fantasties of winning of out?
I don't know. In the same leaky bucket as the idiot's fantasies of losing out I guess. I was never in either bucket.
 
Hostile;4863229 said:
I did, and thought he looked foolish to be quite honest.

I haven't given a thumbs down to Payton either. I am just not blind to the fact our OL is by far our biggest issue, not the HC, and that Payton could not turn this chicken crap OL into chicken salad.

It will get fixed. It has to. I personally think any coach with this OL who isn't 0-11 is doing something right. They do not play together. Not enough right, but something is right to be in games and win some.

Fixing the oline and hiring Payton are independent of each other, I think they both can be and should be done.

Tim Mc questioning of Jerry was straight forward with honest questions that fans want to know. The only thing that looked foolish was the look on Jerrys face when time asked him about 1 playoff win in 15 years, that was priceless.
 
Hostile;4863241 said:
I don't know. In the same leaky bucket as the idiot's fantasies of losing out I guess. I was never in either bucket.

:lmao2:

You no doubt thought the Cowboys were winning like 10 or 11 games.
 
birdwells1;4863245 said:
Fixing the oline and hiring Payton are independent of each other, I think they both can be and should be done.

Tim Mc questioning of Jerry was straight forward with honest questions that fans want to know. The only thing that looked foolish was the look on Jerrys face when time asked him about 1 playoff win in 15 years, that was priceless.
Jerry did look foolish. I agree there. But it's a stupid line of questioning to begin with because...wait for this...IT DOESN"T CHANGE A THING HERE.

Ya'll can live in your fantasy world all you want and call that reality, but it isn't. It never has been. It never will be.
 

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