If Seattle finished 12-4....

Hostile;1206199 said:
Seattle

@ Cardinals, 3-9
vs. 49ers, 5-7
vs. Chargers, 10-2
@ Buccaneers, 3-9


Even after tonight, I see Seattle losing 1 of those last 4. Maybe to the Chargers. But even a Bucs team with nothing to lose at home could surprise them. Hopefully it won't matter.
 
lmao... cutler just made it a lot closer. deep in his own territory he was surely sacked and tossed a last ditch throw straight up in the air as he went down. total rook mistake. It was caught by a rumbling stumbling d lineman and returned for a TD. 10-7.
 
Hostile;1206261 said:
Rookie QB just made it hard again.

10-7.


We may need to start loaning Romo out to make sure we get the help we need from these games.
 
Seattle has it the easiest on account of the division they play in, what a weiner schedule for a defending conference champ to have.
 
13-7

Seattle's offense (knock on wood) is stale right now. Lets hope Denver keeps it up on D. Cutler is getting a lot of help from his D right now for sure.

Romo saved his D today, by the way.
 
Hostile;1206093 said:
We don't play them head to head. So that tie breaker is out the window.

In the Conference we are 5-3, they are 6-3. If we both win out to remain tied in record it would go to strength of schedule.

As of right now this is how the strength of schedules fall.

Seattle...(.427)

Dallas...(.444)


Tiebreaker to Dallas. Critical for us to protect our turf and beat the Saints next week.


I thought common opponents would kick in?
 
Hostile;1206093 said:
We don't play them head to head. So that tie breaker is out the window.

In the Conference we are 5-3, they are 6-3. If we both win out to remain tied in record it would go to strength of schedule.

As of right now this is how the strength of schedules fall.

Seattle...(.427)

Dallas...(.444)


Tiebreaker to Dallas. Critical for us to protect our turf and beat the Saints next week.

pretty sure common opponents comes befoe strength of schedule in tie breaking, and Seatle has that edge on us

if we both finish 12-4, they will be the 2nd seed

as it is right now, we're the 4th seed behind New Orleans and Seattle

David
 
dbair1967;1206942 said:
pretty sure common opponents comes befoe strength of schedule in tie breaking, and Seatle has that edge on us

if we both finish 12-4, they will be the 2nd seed

as it is right now, we're the 4th seed behind New Orleans and Seattle

David

According to ESPN the TIE-Breakers are determined by the following:

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

Based upon the my quick analysis, The cowboys and Seahawks do not have 4 common opponents in order to determine the tie-breaker, therefore it would revert to the Strength of Schedule, upon which Dallas has the edge. Bottom Line, if Dallas wins out they should capture the #2 seed.
 
Drlabon;1206978 said:
According to ESPN the TIE-Breakers are determined by the following:

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

Based upon the my quick analysis, The cowboys and Seahawks do not have 4 common opponents in order to determine the tie-breaker, therefore it would revert to the Strength of Schedule, upon which Dallas has the edge. Bottom Line, if Dallas wins out they should capture the #2 seed.



good stuff......I was wondering myself. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
Seattle won tonight but they did not look good. They beat a rookie qb that was way over his head in this game. Shaun Alexander was not on point and hassleback does not look like he is back.

This Seattle team has beat green bay and Denver but look very vunerable. I think they will struggle against the Cardinals next week IMO.
 
Common games by the end of the year include Detroit, TB, Arizona and New York. The kicker is we get the Giants twice and they get Arizona twice. If this is the determining factor, we lose. They'd be 5-0, we'd be 4-1. Even if you get technical and say its only commone "games" (i.e. only games played on the same field) we still lost at home to the Giants and the Hawks beat em in Seattle.

And make no mistake, if Seattle gets healthy and rolling in January, they are a threat to go all the way again. Go Cardinals next week-but the Chargers are our best shot....
 
noletime95;1207014 said:
Common games by the end of the year include Detroit, TB, Arizona and New York. The kicker is we get the Giants twice and they get Arizona twice. If this is the determining factor, we lose. They'd be 5-0, we'd be 4-1. Even if you get technical and say its only commone "games" (i.e. only games played on the same field) we still lost at home to the Giants and the Hawks beat em in Seattle.

And make no mistake, if Seattle gets healthy and rolling in January, they are a threat to go all the way again. Go Cardinals next week-but the Chargers are our best shot....

How to count the common games is tricky and I am not 100% sure I am right, I didn't think you could count common division opponents like NYG because Dallas played NYG twice and Seattle played them once. The same would be true for Seattle, since we played Arizona once and Seattle plays them twice. My interpretation of common opponents would be Detroit and Tampa Bay since both Dallas and Seattle plays them once. Hopefully Dallas will win out and it will take care of itself.
 
Drlabon;1207030 said:
How to count the common games is tricky and I am not 100% sure I am right, I didn't think you could count common division opponents like NYG because Dallas played NYG twice and Seattle played them once. The same would be true for Seattle, since we played Arizona once and Seattle plays them twice. My interpretation of common opponents would be Detroit and Tampa Bay since both Dallas and Seattle plays them once. Hopefully Dallas will win out and it will take care of itself.


That was where I was confused as well. It should be strictly common opponents from other divisions but that would seem like the Common opponent aspect wouldn't really be a factor that much.....And really, I don't think its possible to play the same 4 teams if ones one division games were not counted.....

I know one thing.....I don't want that 3rd seed. Going to Chicago would suck in January
 
If they finish 12-4 they'd still suck. Talk about overrated.....IMO, of course.
 

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