If the Cowboys lose to the Vikings and Giants, that should be enough

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That has nothing to do with how the game would play out. You can’t just “insert player here” and determine if it would be a win or loss. Stop it.
So it doesn't fit your narrative so stop it...too logical of an argument so stop it!!

It's fact that the same players. The same offense produced less with rush.

And so you have no argument and you just want to stop it.....is that it?
 

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Ok, let's go with that argument.

Isnrush better than Dak right now? Is Rush the future? Will rush playing right now make this team better?

You keep digging for an answer to.an argument that's totally irrelevant to.where we are now

So stop avoiding. Answer the question. Dak sucks. Dak has t done anything in 7 years. . Right now at 6-3, what's the best option moving forward?

What Has Dak Brought Us?
What Has Dak Brought Us With His Millions?
What Has Dak Brought Us With His Millions and exuberant hype from Jerry?
What Has Dak Brought Us With His Millions and exuberant hype from Jerry and in postseason respects?
Sup-sup, creator chap.
 

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If the Cowboys once again see their season going down the tube, they should finally make a change at quarterback. Last year it was one game vs Arizona that let the air out of the team, as Kyler Murray came in to Dallas and outplayed Dak so bad that there was no longer the belief that the Cowboys would excel in the playoffs. I think most of the players felt they never had a chance against San Francisco after the way Arizona pounded them.
This year there have been warning signs since week one. Had Cooper Rush not came in and led the Cowboys to a 4-1 record, they might be 4-5 or worse at this point.
With this season on the brink of yet another crash and burn, Jerry will surely see he has nothing to lose. The Cowboys have repeatedly shed every player but the quarterback trying to find a way to win.
Maybe it's time to listen to those who recognize the issue is Dak.

Enough of what? They're not going to bench Dak in favor of Cooper noodle-armed Rush no matter how many times you suggest it.

Dak is Dak, but Cooper Rush is not the answer. Nobody is winning in the playoffs with Cooper Rush. Probably not with Dak, either.
 

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So it doesn't fit your narrative so stop it...too logical of an argument so stop it!!

It's fact that the same players. The same offense produced less with rush.

And so you have no argument and you just want to stop it.....is that it?
No, it's not. You've lost. I'd just stop.
 

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If we come out pass happy and don’t use our formula and run first and lose the next 2 games then Moore should be fired. Actually if I am MM I would call the plays this week if Moore even starts to get pass happy. Heck by now I even know the plays and formula.
He won't do that because once he says hes calling plays hes in Jerry's cross hairs
 

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So, if Dak actually plays well the next 2 games - let's say averages 250 ypg, 2-3 passing TD's, cleans up the TO's, and the offense averages 28ppg - and they lose, you're STILL gonna blame that on Dak? Even if the D gives up the 175 ypg on the ground that they've done the last 4 weeks, you're still gonna blame Dak? If you answer yes, then you've absolutely shown you are one of the "agenda" folks and aren't being honest about this team in its entirety.
If he doesn't will you blame him?
 

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Ok, let's go with that argument.

Isnrush better than Dak right now? Is Rush the future? Will rush playing right now make this team better?

You keep digging for an answer to.an argument that's totally irrelevant to.where we are now

So stop avoiding. Answer the question. Dak sucks. Dak has t done anything in 7 years. . Right now at 6-3, what's the best option moving forward?
The downfall with Rush is he can't throw the ball down field so Dak is better than him. But on the flip side he reads a defense better than Dak and gets rid of the ball quicker but his ball does float.
The x factor seems to be the team responds better with Rush than Dak. The oline gets off the ball and blocks better for the run game and the Cowboys seem to possess the ball with Rush converting a few short throws on 3 rd down. Dak should be the better bus driver but Rush is. And Dak doesn't want to be a bus driver. Dak changing plays and trying to act like Mahomes is causing mistakes and time of possession.
 

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I agree with you. There's just one thing that bothers me about Rush, his floaters. He throws floaters all the time. There's too much air under every pass he throws and it's obvious. It bit him against the Eagles, and I'm not even talking about the interceptions. There were a few passes around 12-15 yards that were knocked away at the last second. Those would be completions by any other QB in the league that throws it on a line.

I realize everything you said is more important than arm strength. But Rush's arm strength, IMO, is at an unacceptable level for an NFL QB. But regardless of who is at QB, the Cowboys are less successful when the QBs have to throw more passes. Rush threw the most, 38 against the Eagles. Dak with his highest of 46 against the Packers.
I think Rush's "floaters" are a product of his inexperience. He has a much stronger arm than that. But he hasn't had the opportunities to become accustomed to every instance in the passing game at the NFL level.
That's something the Dak supporters don't want to acknowledge; Rush has only had limited experience, and should get even better as he goes.
But Dak has been coddled for six years, and isn't learning.
I was really impressed by Cooper Rush, especially when you take his inexperience into consideration.
I can't help but wonder how good he really can be. He has instincts that Dak will never have.
 

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The downfall with Rush is he can't throw the ball down field so Dak is better than him. But on the flip side he reads a defense better than Dak and gets rid of the ball quicker but his ball does float.
The x factor seems to be the team responds better with Rush than Dak. The oline gets off the ball and blocks better for the run game and the Cowboys seem to possess the ball with Rush converting a few short throws on 3 rd down. Dak should be the better bus driver but Rush is. And Dak doesn't want to be a bus driver. Dak changing plays and trying to act like Mahomes is causing mistakes and time of possession.
we can put Bill Bilicheck out there. he reads a defense better than anybody ever. yet it comes down to execution. I have argued in the past, anyone new can have that "no film on you" factor going for them. but give DC's in NFL enough game tape and they will figure you out quickly. they figured quickly, that he doesn't have any arm strength to go past 15 yards down field. they packed it in and forced him to try and make outside throws, which he can't. and we saw the offensive production just drop drastically. as a result, offensive scoring dropped drastically.

the team responding, is not the offense, but defense played better, which rush has ZERO control over. the defense was figured out, much like we got figured out against Denver last year, that we can not stop the run and teams started to run the ball on us. that directly reflects in the TOP, even starting with Detroit game, where they ran more than pass (except for last 9 plays for detroit, trying to catch up). I think Philly, gave the blue print of how to play against our defense and all they did is watch the Tampa game.

and there is no denying, regardless that our offensive output has increased drastically and our scoring has increased drastically and that's what you want out of an offense. to score more.
 

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No, it's not. You've lost. I'd just stop.
oh, wow, so your whole argument is not about the argument its about feeling that you won....so that explains a lot of what you make up along the way. facts be damned.

ok, if that's all you need to make your fragile feelings better then you won. good for you (patting you on the head), here is a trophy for you. good job son. bravo. you should be so proud
 

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What Has Dak Brought Us?
What Has Dak Brought Us With His Millions?
What Has Dak Brought Us With His Millions and exuberant hype from Jerry?
What Has Dak Brought Us With His Millions and exuberant hype from Jerry and in postseason respects?
Sup-sup, creator chap.
like I said, I will go along with you. he has done nothing. I said that in previous responses too.

so is your Rush Crush going to bring us more? what's your solution? all you have is hate and no solution. I have given you the opportunity 10 times to give us your alternative, yet you are solely focused on your hatred. dude, that's not good for you. all that hate impacts your psyche.

come on chap. answer the question, else you have NOTHING
 

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Enough of what? They're not going to bench Dak in favor of Cooper noodle-armed Rush no matter how many times you suggest it.

Dak is Dak, but Cooper Rush is not the answer. Nobody is winning in the playoffs with Cooper Rush. Probably not with Dak, either.
insert cooper rush in ther and we win one game the rest of the season. the offensive down fall started with Rams, the losing streak started with Philly.
 

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I think Rush's "floaters" are a product of his inexperience. He has a much stronger arm than that. But he hasn't had the opportunities to become accustomed to every instance in the passing game at the NFL level.
That's something the Dak supporters don't want to acknowledge; Rush has only had limited experience, and should get even better as he goes.
But Dak has been coddled for six years, and isn't learning.
I was really impressed by Cooper Rush, especially when you take his inexperience into consideration.
I can't help but wonder how good he really can be. He has instincts that Dak will never have.
what does experience have to do with Arm strength? you really reached back and deep for that one (does it hurt now?) here is Rush's draft profile. direectly from NFL site.

"
  • Frumpy body with very little muscular definition
  • Does not look the part
  • Slow, plodding setup in the pocket
  • Throws from narrow platform and generates very little drive on his throws from lower half
  • Lollipop arm strength allows ball to hang in air too long
  • Defensive backs with twitch have time to dart into passing lane and make interceptions despite a good read by quarterback
  • Struggles to challenge tight windows in middle of the field
  • Could be limited to timing-based passing attacks
  • Unable to make sudden getaways from pocket due to lack of athleticism
  • Strong pocket push from interior short circuits his plans"
and from another site.

".....It’s immediately apparent that Rush’s arm is, how do you say, kind of weak. On that Hail Mary play vs. Oklahoma State, Rush had to put every milligram of energy into the throw and even then, it was nearly under-thrown to Kroll. And that was only a 40-yard pass...."
read that again, all of his might and strength resulted in a 40 yard throw!!!!

Rush may have limited experience, but he got figured out very quickly. Rams showed how to stop him (76 yards passing, 13 total offensive points), philly took him to the shed and abused him.

he can not ever be good, because he sucks. you are the only one in the entire 8B population of earth who thinks otherwise. the only one. even the rest of Dak haters admit he sucks.
 

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we can put Bill Bilicheck out there. he reads a defense better than anybody ever. yet it comes down to execution. I have argued in the past, anyone new can have that "no film on you" factor going for them. but give DC's in NFL enough game tape and they will figure you out quickly. they figured quickly, that he doesn't have any arm strength to go past 15 yards down field. they packed it in and forced him to try and make outside throws, which he can't. and we saw the offensive production just drop drastically. as a result, offensive scoring dropped drastically.

the team responding, is not the offense, but defense played better, which rush has ZERO control over. the defense was figured out, much like we got figured out against Denver last year, that we can not stop the run and teams started to run the ball on us. that directly reflects in the TOP, even starting with Detroit game, where they ran more than pass (except for last 9 plays for detroit, trying to catch up). I think Philly, gave the blue print of how to play against our defense and all they did is watch the Tampa game.

and there is no denying, regardless that our offensive output has increased drastically and our scoring has increased drastically and that's what you want out of an offense. to score more.
Rush can't control the defense but if the guys just like him they will play harder for him. Dak is the loner on the team who tries to act like he is a leader but the rest of the team is whispering how he is taking up the wealth and some of these guys are not going to get paid because of Dak. Remember how Dak got whipped in the parking lot of that college game before he was drafted. His mouth was writing checks that he couldn't cash. Daks going to end up being a cancer in the locker room he already walks to the locker room by himself.
 

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Rush can't control the defense but if the guys just like him they will play harder for him. Dak is the loner on the team who tries to act like he is a leader but the rest of the team is whispering how he is taking up the wealth and some of these guys are not going to get paid because of Dak. Remember how Dak got whipped in the parking lot of that college game before he was drafted. His mouth was writing checks that he couldn't cash. Daks going to end up being a cancer in the locker room he already walks to the locker room by himself.
Lol. While I agree he is over paid he got market value for a starting QB in the NFL. The one who took up money was Elliot. And JJ paid them both. The cap will go way up in the next few years. If Dak quits changing run plays he would look way better. He knows the formula. If the team is upset with him it would be because of changing plays. I like his belief in himself but when your changing plays and not completing the passes or throwing picks then I can see the locker room being upset with him.
 
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