If the Cowboys lose to the Vikings and Giants, that should be enough

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Are you saying it wasn't a factor? Of course it was; along with the bad calls, penalties, and the interceptions-which we know now were the receivers fault- which I said then.
They were all factors, and there were more.
But Rush did play well.

So it's okay for you to put the Eagles game on the defense and say that Cooper Rush played well, despite him throwing 3 INTs in that game. But if other point out the defense giving up 200 rushing yards, a 14 point lead and allowing the Packers to get a TD on 4th and 7, is somehow "making excuses" for Dak? You are just proving what different rules you hold the 2 QBs to. Accusing others of scapegoating other players for the games the Cowboys have lost with Dak, when this exactly what you are doing in defending Cooper Rush.
 

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If the Cowboys lose to the Vikings and Giants, that should be enough
If the Cowboys once again see their season going down the tube, they should finally make a change at quarterback. Last year it was one game vs Arizona that let the air out of the team, as Kyler Murray came in to Dallas and outplayed Dak so bad that there was no longer the belief that the Cowboys would excel in the playoffs. I think most of the players felt they never had a chance against San Francisco after the way Arizona pounded them.
This year there have been warning signs since week one. Had Cooper Rush not came in and led the Cowboys to a 4-1 record, they might be 4-5 or worse at this point.
With this season on the brink of yet another crash and burn, Jerry will surely see he has nothing to lose. The Cowboys have repeatedly shed every player but the quarterback trying to find a way to win.
Maybe it's time to listen to those who recognize the issue is Dak.
You may think you are channeling Jerry Jones but I promise the two of you are on two totally different frequencies. Jones is on FM. You are on AM. You're working on the ultraviolet band. He's on infrared. Snoopy's doghouse has a rabbit ear tv antenna. Jones' yacht has Directv...
 

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So what's your excuse for the Buccaneers loss?
That was before the Eagles loss. Dak played, well, like Dak plays during that loss.

Do I need to answer that question to you AGAIN? You asked that question about 20 times in one of your other anti-Cowboys hate thread, and I'm the one who answered it. Go look through all your anti-Cowboys hate threads and you'll find it. I know there's a lot of them since you're a troll, but it's there somewhere.
 

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What? 3 teams Dak played ran all over us. They rushed for 599 yards in those 3 games. 152, 240 and 207. The run D is our weakness. In those 3 games with Dak, we gave up more rushing yards than the 5 games combined with Cooper Rush. And it's not even close!

And the Bengals were not good when we played and they are an average team now, and the Rams are horrible. But since you're a smart guy you know all this. You just have an agenda. :)
I really don’t have an agenda; I’m not denying the run D is a big issue, but other factors go into it. Why has the run defense suddenly stalled out? Well, the defense has been on the field more because either we score quicker with Dak and/or have more three and outs with Dak. Eventually your defense is going to tire out. One thing Rush did really well with was sustaining drives and having manageable 2nd and 3rd downs; Dakota has struggled in both of these areas. All of these factors could be contributing as to why our defense has been getting gashed.
 

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I am kind of surprised that there has been little talk thus far about the job Corky is doing....do we see a new HC with another first round exit? How far deep in the playoffs does he need to go? Not running on 3rd down last week was CRIMINAL....he never should have admitted to us that he knew on second down that they were going to go for it on 4th if it came to that.


Yes, another first round exit, time for a change.
 

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No there isnt he doesnt make 40 mill right now, so thats not a fact any part of the day not morning night nor lunch time.

Okay, he's not making 40 million right now, this season. Now let's talk about every other criticism not related to money...his record, his inability to beat good teams, poor decisions, poor mechanics. You want to talk about all that, or should we just stick to money?
 

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You mean like listening to those who wanted Romo instead of Bledsoe? Or Dak instead of Romo? How about Steve Walsh instead of Aikman? (Didn't happen, thank goodness).

Some people always want the backup quarterback no matter what the starter does, unless it's win SBs. And they got their wish several times. And did Romo win any SBs? Any NFC championship games?

The problem with the Cowboys is not the quarterback, it's JERRY JONES....


The immediate problem is our DL and LB's containing thier gaps....This is fixable, we sound like a wayward home for beaten animals (27 years i get it) but lets not b urn the house down because the couch is in the wrong place....Move the damn couch DQ!!!!!
 

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Okay, he's not making 40 million right now, this season. Now let's talk about every other criticism not related to money...his record, his inability to beat good teams, poor decisions, poor mechanics. You want to talk about all that, or should we just stick to money?

I responded to your post about money.... we can debate anything you want, if its a fact i will agree if its not i will pull the facts, pretty simple stuff. you seem pretty emotionally tied to it though and genrally that will not bring facts but cherry picked instances will be stated in abundance. "the record against good teams" will be a great one...I hope your a Jimmy G fan..lol
 

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I responded to your post about money.... we can debate anything you want, if its a fact i will agree if its not i will pull the facts, pretty simple stuff. you seem pretty emotionally tied to it though and genrally that will not bring facts but cherry picked instances will be stated in abundance. "the record against good teams" will be a great one...I hope your a Jimmy G fan..lol

You seem pretty emotionally tied to supporting Dak, and that will not bring great discussion on facts. You are already ready to dismiss the record against good teams, so let's start there. Dak hasn't beaten a winning team since playing the Chargers Sept. 19th, 2021.
 

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You seem pretty emotionally tied to supporting Dak, and that will not bring great discussion on facts. You are already ready to dismiss the record against good teams, so let's start there. Dak hasn't beaten a winning team since playing the Chargers Sept. 19th, 2021.

So why this time frame he was 5-4 record vs winning teams last year, can you elaborate on why you made that cut off? You might want to know I dont think Dak is elite but as someone who actually understands football i get its a TEAM game and the record is a TEAM reflection...now golf would be a diferent story
 

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If the Cowboys once again see their season going down the tube, they should finally make a change at quarterback. Last year it was one game vs Arizona that let the air out of the team, as Kyler Murray came in to Dallas and outplayed Dak so bad that there was no longer the belief that the Cowboys would excel in the playoffs. I think most of the players felt they never had a chance against San Francisco after the way Arizona pounded them.
This year there have been warning signs since week one. Had Cooper Rush not came in and led the Cowboys to a 4-1 record, they might be 4-5 or worse at this point.
With this season on the brink of yet another crash and burn, Jerry will surely see he has nothing to lose. The Cowboys have repeatedly shed every player but the quarterback trying to find a way to win.
Maybe it's time to listen to those who recognize the issue is Dak.
Rush isn’t it though, I wish they would have traded for Minshew before Philly…..much more capable than Rush.
 

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So why this time frame he was 5-4 record vs winning teams last year, can you elaborate on why you made that cut off?

...because he hasn't beaten a good team since Sept 19th, 2021. I shouldn't even be going back THAT far in terms of relevance. I could go easier on him and just count from the playoffs last season. So I'll do that. Still doesn't seem any better. Dak hasn't beaten a good team yet this season, our backup has.
 

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If we were talking about Rush vs Vikings last year, the Bengals or the Giants you'd have a case.

However, our offense had become progressively worse as time went on with Rush.

Say what you want about Dak, but Rush is NOT the solution. The team is better with Dak at QB.
 

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If we come out pass happy and don’t use our formula and run first and lose the next 2 games then Moore should be fired. Actually if I am MM I would call the plays this week if Moore even starts to get pass happy. Heck by now I even know the plays and formula.

Jerry would never allow that....
 

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I see us beating the Giants because their QB is as inconsistent as ours and we are playing at home. We could beat the Vikings if the running game and the defense carry Dak to victory.

Their QB has actually shown some improvement and ours hasn’t. Daniel Jones currently has the highest passer rating of his career. He did some damage against us with his legs in the first game with 79 yards rushing. Wouldn’t surprise me if he and Saquon Barkley who’s second in the league in rushing combine for 200 yards against us. Our defense is starting to show serious cracks, so I wouldn’t be chalking this up as a win just yet. Plus the Cowboys haven’t won a Thanksgiving game since 2018. If the Cowboys lose to the Vikings on Sunday, which is likely they’re going to be limping into that Thanksgiving game.
 

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I really don’t have an agenda; I’m not denying the run D is a big issue, but other factors go into it. Why has the run defense suddenly stalled out? Well, the defense has been on the field more because either we score quicker with Dak and/or have more three and outs with Dak. Eventually your defense is going to tire out. One thing Rush did really well with was sustaining drives and having manageable 2nd and 3rd downs; Dakota has struggled in both of these areas. All of these factors could be contributing as to why our defense has been getting gashed.

I don't know why I bother because Dak haters will always be haters regardless of the facts. I spent 30 minutes of my time, and I always say, "the richest man can't buy time so use it wisely," but I don't think I am. This will be my last comment to you because it won't change anything. Here are some more facts. After looking at all the stats from our 9 games. With the exception of the Bengal's game, the D was on the field longer with Rush's 5 games. With Dak's 4 games only the Bears game is where you see a big difference in TOP. The rest is about the same difference as the 5 games (minus the Bengal's game) with Cooper. We've only won the TOP in one game.

Have a good day.
 

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...because he hasn't beaten a good team since Sept 19th, 2021. I shouldn't even be going back THAT far in terms of relevance. I could go easier on him and just count from the playoffs last season. So I'll do that. Still doesn't seem any better. Dak hasn't beaten a good team yet this season, our backup has.

yes i know youll use time stamped things to create a narrative i already said you would do that. Our offense is better with Dak back in it..thats a fact that can be proven...unless you can show me where more points is not better...lower 3rd down convert rate is better, less TOP I mean what can you say that says the offense was better with Rush than Dak that can be proven? We literally move the ball better in every way with Dak back......can you show we dont?
 

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Just think, in little over 2 weeks this team has gone from a possible SB contender to another failed season LOL. Oh well, Jerry continues to make money on stupid people that lap up his PR bs.
 

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Rush isn’t it though, I wish they would have traded for Minshew before Philly…..much more capable than Rush.
I don't have a problem with finding someone besides Rush, but for the moment I do believe that he is better than Dak; a lot better.
He should be in at quarterback for the Cowboys this season.
That doesn't mean he's the guy. But we know Dak isn't.
 
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