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Parche;3038641 said:
Well, I made a Romo post weeks ago, noticing that the stat that Romo must improve (and still) is turnovers. If he improves in that area, he can be great in this league. but NO ONE wins it alone.

Wi won yesterday, but as we werent that bad before yesterday, we are not top 5 now that we beat Atlanta.

We must improve week to week and try to stay in yesterday's level of playing and we can do something after december.

He has had 3 games this season with 0 turnovers (maybe 4, I'm not sure about Tampa). He is indeed improving in that area.
 

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JBond;3038289 said:
A QB rating of 94.7 is middle of the pack? Wow, the standards have gone up. Lets cut him now. Maybe Chutch can make a comeback.

if you want to go by passer rating he is 10th. i'm not saying he is a middle of the pack qb. i'm saying so far this year he has played like one. facts are facts. he is 14th in touchdowns and 18th in accuracy. his best stat is his ypa which he is 5th. he isn't throwing many int's which is great, but he isn't throwing any td's either.

i don't think you know how good qb's are playing this year.
 

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New-Gen Cowboy fans have no idea what QB stat matters... growing up watching guys like Quincy will do that to ya!
 

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Boyzmamacita;3038736 said:
He has had 3 games this season with 0 turnovers (maybe 4, I'm not sure about Tampa). He is indeed improving in that area.

He didn't turn the ball over against Tampa. Only against Denver and New York.

But the only reason we beat Tampa was that they were busting coverages all over the place.

And Atlanta wasn't actually a big game, after we won of course. No seriously, I read it right here on this site.
 

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zeroburrito;3038740 said:
if you want to go by passer rating he is 10th. i'm not saying he is a middle of the pack qb. i'm saying so far this year he has played like one. facts are facts. he is 14th in touchdowns, 18th in accuracy, and 5th in interceptions. his best stat is his ypa which he is 5th.

Clever you edited your post right before I quoted it, since in your last post you said yards per average is the most telling, and since he is top 5 he's middle of the pack.

Lets try this.

The Pack:

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32


The middle appears to be #16.


You, sir, have failed.
 

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casmith07;3038756 said:
Clever you edited your post right before I quoted it, since in your last post you said yards per average is the most telling, and since he is top 5 he's middle of the pack.

Lets try this.

The Pack:

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32


The middle appears to be #16.


You, sir, have failed.


ok, let me rephrase. he is middle of the pack of the below average to elite quarterbacks. there are like 5 absolutely terrible quarterbacks at the bottom of the list.

you're telling me romo has played like the 5th best qb this year? i would put him as the 11th best out of 15 legitimate starters. the other 17 or so qb's are backups at best.
 

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zeroburrito;3038760 said:
ok, let me rephrase. he is middle of the pack of the below average to elite quarterbacks. there are like 5 absolutely terrible quarterbacks at the bottom of the list.

Still makes no sense. Thanks for playing.
 

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casmith07;3038767 said:
Still makes no sense. Thanks for playing.

you need to take a trip to nfl.com. go to stats, then players. it has a list of all positions. you can sort it by qb and look from there. it really helps to have information before you blabber off about things.

let's name qb's playing(note i said PLAYING, not better for their career) better than romo.

brees, Manning, schaub, favre, rodgers, roflsburger, rivers, orton, and brady.

now the players that are playing at the same level. these could be playing slightly better or slightly worse than romo. it's really close.

flacco, palmer, warner, manning, mcnabb, ryan.

here are the qb's romo is clearly playing better than. a great accomplishment i might add.

cutler, cassel, hassellbeck, campbell, sanchez, collins, edwards, garrard, hill, delhomme, johnson, bulger, henne, stafford, anderson, and russell.

he is clearly playing better than 16~ qb's. looks amazing when you say 16 doesn't it? until you actually see the qb's names.
 

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What "mental thing" is that, juck?

Sound like you are projecting your own goth mind issues.

the Cowboys have all struggled in December for the past twenty years. Why single out one player-----unless you are a braindead hater?
 

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Ha ha ha ha!!!! You think there are only 15 real quarterbacks and the rest are "backups" Do you realize how ignorant you sound when you say that? Quarterbacking is 10 times harder than any other position and 10 times more valuable than any other position.

Romo hasn't been a top five QB this season so far. But he's certainly been above average. If Romo he ends up top ten by the end of the season-----you are so accountable to come back and grovel.

Get ready to grovel, son.
 

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T-RO;3038788 said:
zeroburrito

Ha ha ha ha!!!! You think there are only 15 real quarterbacks and the rest are "backups" Do you realize how ignorant you sound when you say that? Quarterbacking is 10 times harder than any other position and 10 times more valuable than any other position.

Romo hasn't been a top five QB this season so far. But he's certainly been above average. If Romo he ends up top ten by the end of the season-----you are so accountable to come back and grovel.

Get ready to grovel, son.

name 5 legitimate starters out of this list.

cutler, cassel, hassellbeck, campbell, sanchez, collins, edwards, garrard, hill, delhomme, johnson, bulger, henne, stafford, anderson, and russell.

i believe romo will be top 6 by the end of the year. it's still kind of early, but he is off to a mediocre start for his standards.
 

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zeroburrito;3038252 said:
he is top 5 in one important stat. below average on everything else.
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I call BS, show me some stats to prove it, below average my butt.
 

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YPA and %Int are the most telling stats.

TD passes are nice, but you can lose a lot of opportunities for shorter TD passes if your teams runs well in goal line short yardage situations. And we do.

Comp% means next to nothing. It all comes down to YPA. I'll take a QB with an 8.5 YPA completing 60% of his passes over a QB with a 7.5 YPA completing 70%.

This is just common sense. Romo is top 5 in the stats that matter most and translate to wins.
 

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sonnyboy;3038838 said:
YPA and %Int are the most telling stats.

TD passes are nice, but you can lose a lot of opportunities for shorter TD passes if your teams runs well in goal line short yardage situations. And we do.

Comp% means next to nothing. It all comes down to YPA. I'll take a QB with an 8.5 YPA completing 60% of his passes over a QB with a 7.5 YPA completing 70%.

This is just common sense. Romo is top 5 in the stats that matter most and translate to wins.

i agree ypa is the most important stat of all. check aaron rodgers. he is playing the best football i have seen in a LONG time. high ypa and low %int. his offensive line is the worst in football and he is doing INCREDIBLE things. peyton has only been sacked twice....

i don't think romo has ever played as well as freaking matt schuab is right now.
 

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zeroburrito;3038809 said:
name 5 legitimate starters out of this list.

cutler, cassel, hassellbeck, campbell, sanchez, collins, edwards, garrard, hill, delhomme, johnson, bulger, henne, stafford, anderson, and russell.

i believe romo will be top 6 by the end of the year. it's still kind of early, but he is off to a mediocre start for his standards.


I know you're on Romo's side of the fence, but get off the mediocre start deal. It's just not true.

Romo has had one terrible game. But his YPA and QB Rating for the season are right at his career average coming into the year.
 

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Cowboysfan22;3038242 said:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead...hree=Jason+Campbell&playerFour=Donovan+McNabb
This is a quaterback comparrison of allt he qb's in the NFC East. Romo excells in all categories and beats Eli Manning's stats who is a super bowl winning qb. Tony Romo also probally his most important stat comparison is he only has 4 INT and three of those were in the game against the Giants.

1. I ask tough questions of Tony Hollywood. That doesn't make me a hater.

2. The yardstick here has been set much higher than regular season stats. We'll leave that to No Danny, No White, the King of the NFC Championship losers.

3. This isn't about Marino, or Jim Kelly or anyone else. This is about Romo and winning it all.

If you are in the game for stats, that is why they made fantasy football.

Me, I'm in it for the trophies.

When Romo is on like yesterday, he is nearly unbeatable. He needs to deliver that game when making the play-offs is on the line. Then he needs to deliver that type of effort until he wins the last game of the tourney.

This is Dallas, not Detroit.

But notice this. Romo made an exceptional play to score right before the half. Yet he protected the ball and didn't turn it over in the passing game.

All the Let Tony Be Tony comments ignore that he did exactly what they wanted him to and yet still performed a miracle to be Tony when it counted.

He doesn't have to make highlight plays but once in a while. But he does have to protect the ball all of the while.

That is what us "HATERS," are saying.

Protect the ball and be Superman only when there is no other choice.
 

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i agree ypa is the most important stat of all. check aaron rodgers. he is playing the best football i have seen in a LONG time. high ypa and low %int. his offensive line is the worst in football and he is doing INCREDIBLE things. peyton has only been sacked twice....

So what?!?!?!? Maybe Romo ISN'T the best quarterback in the league!!??!

Maybe Ware isn't the best pass rusher.

Why is that reason when you say you are a Cowboy fan to rag on your own player.

Romo is a top 5 or top 10 NFL quarterback and certainly a unique playmaker. Plus he wears the star. In my book that means he's worth supporting 100%.
 

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T-RO;3038859 said:
So what?!?!?!? Maybe Romo ISN'T the best quarterback in the league!!??!

Maybe Ware isn't the best pass rusher.

Why is that reason when you say you are a Cowboy fan to rag on your own player.

Romo is a top 5 or top 10 NFL quarterback and certainly a unique playmaker. Plus he wears the star. In my book that means he's worth supporting 100%.


i'm not ragging on anyone....

romo is by far my favorite player and i may not take any other qb in the league over him. he does things no other qb can do. i'm just saying right now, there are a good amount of qb's playing better 6 games into the season.
 

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T-RO;3038859 said:
So what?!?!?!? Maybe Romo ISN'T the best quarterback in the league!!??!

Maybe Ware isn't the best pass rusher.

Why is that reason when you say you are a Cowboy fan to rag on your own player.

Romo is a top 5 or top 10 NFL quarterback and certainly a unique playmaker. Plus he wears the star. In my book that means he's worth supporting 100%.

Does supporting 100% mean you can never comment on his shortcomings?
 
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