If we could sign dielman, colombo, and davis...

[superpunk]

Once again anyone who thinks this is a madden deal, or that it couldn't happen honestly aren't looking at the numbers.

Dielman -
Rivera's contract is canceled out and replaced with Dielman's. Dielman is one of the best offensive linemen out of San Diego. Our head coach was the defensive coordinator from San Diego, and has seen the guy every day since 2004. We have a hole at offensive guard, who do you think Phillips would look at first to fill that hole? Lets be serious...

Leonard Davis
We're going to have a hole at left tackle in 2008-9. And I don't see the point in resigning Flozell Adams. Leonard Davis could fill that spot. And then we could still make use of Kosier. Who can probably play every spot on the line. Signing players in the first year isn't especially expensive.

By the time the cost of either Davis or Dielman got onto the books, both Rivera and Adams would be off.

Having players like Dielman run blocking for you makes the difference between having a LaDainian Tomlinson or a Julius Jones...

That last statement is ridiculous...LDT is LDT - Julius is JAG.

Drafting players to block for your RB, or finding guys who didn't fit elsewhere to block, is the difference between winning and losing. Dielman was a 7th rounder, I believe. That's how you build a line, and keep them together, and build your team.

The "chase the name FAs that were successful elsewhere" MO is the recipe for failure that the Commanders have been following for the past 8 years or so.

(Actually, checked - Dielman was undrafted.)

 

[Galian Beast]

Flozell Adams will be in the last year of his contract. This year his salary is 5 million dollars. That is 5 million we WON'T be paying him next year.

Marco Rivera is in the 3rd year of his 5 year deal. He got a 9 million dollar signing bonus meaning the remaining bonus is 5.4 million dollars. If he is released before June 1st we get a 5.4 million dollar hit in the salary cap. If he is released after June 1st we're charged 2.7 million this year, and 2.7 million next year.

If we cut Rivera after June 1st, we'll save .9 million against the cap this year, and 2.1 million against the cap next year, and 4.8 million against the cap in 2009.

Thus you can use that money to pay Dielman who is looking to get around 6.5 million per year. He won't get near that until at least his 3rd year. So it does actually work.

And we're still saving money from dropping Larry Allen and going with Kyle Kosier. That is money people are still not taking into account. Not to mention the money you can save by releasing Fabini.

 

[Galian Beast]

I don't care where Dielman was drafted. The recipe works when you're still building a team. Our team is built for now. We need to take advantage of it while we can. Our receivers aren't getting any younger. These linemen are young and in their prime, if we can get a solid core developed NOW, a dynasty can be created, and growth from drafts can sustain said dynasty, which is what the Patriots did. But we're not going to get anywhere lining rookie linemen up right now. It takes like 3 years to develop an offensive linemen. In 3 years we'll have had to rebuild our receiving corps.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Once again anyone who thinks this is a madden deal, or that it couldn't happen honestly aren't looking at the numbers.

Dielman -
Rivera's contract is canceled out and replaced with Dielman's. Dielman is one of the best offensive linemen out of San Diego. Our head coach was the defensive coordinator from San Diego, and has seen the guy every day since 2004. We have a hole at offensive guard, who do you think Phillips would look at first to fill that hole? Lets be serious...

Leonard Davis
We're going to have a hole at left tackle in 2008-9. And I don't see the point in resigning Flozell Adams. Leonard Davis could fill that spot. And then we could still make use of Kosier. Who can probably play every spot on the line. Signing players in the first year isn't especially expensive.

By the time the cost of either Davis or Dielman got onto the books, both Rivera and Adams would be off.

Having players like Dielman run blocking for you makes the difference between having a LaDainian Tomlinson or a Julius Jones...

I mean it would be so nice just to say...Well we are paying too much for Rivera so we just use that money on Dielman (sp?) and it will even out.

However what I think you fail to realize is that Dielman will probably cost WAY more. Plus he is one of the top FA OL right now and we will be getting in a bidding war.

So chances are you might be able to get him, but I doubt you are also going to get RT Columbo and also sign Davis.

Plus Davis is no better than Flo. I just don't see why some people think he would be a good replacement for Flo when he is not even as good as flo.

Davis should be an OG not a tackle but if he is going to be a tackle he should be a RT not a LT, unless maybe you have a left handed QB.

This is not madden football ladies and gentlemen.

This is not Danny Snyder football.

There are reasons you don't sign FOUR high priced FA O-Linemen in one FA session.

You might get one to three TOPS and I am including Colombo.

Or did you forget we just spent a good amount of money on Gurode.

Chances are we will resign Colombo at RT and than we will sign either davis or Dielman as RG.

NOT BOTH.

 

[burmafrd]

Pretty sure we will get Columbo. Now how much he will cost is another story.

 

[superpunk]

I don't care where Dielman was drafted. The recipe works when you're still building a team. Our team is built for now. We need to take advantage of it while we can. Our receivers aren't getting any younger. These linemen are young and in their prime, if we can get a solid core developed NOW, a dynasty can be created, and growth from drafts can sustain said dynasty, which is what the Patriots did. But we're not going to get anywhere lining rookie linemen up right now. It takes like 3 years to develop an offensive linemen. In 3 years we'll have had to rebuild our receiving corps.

Signing one is OK. Slobberknocking our way into getting 3 and replacing 60% of our line, asking those guys to gel together in one offseason, and be a unit, is unrealistic. We've been developing Procter for two years now. Maybe he's hot, you don't know. Kosier was a HUGE upgrade - people didn't like him because he didn't have that name that makes you feel all cozy, like say....Marco Rivera...but making a signing of a player who wasn't fitting in elsewhere for reasonable dollars benefitted us immensely.

Your proposal is pretty much lunacy. Even if you could get it to wrok financially, replacing that much of the Oline in a single offseason is a BAD idea.

 

[Idgit]

Once again anyone who thinks this is a madden deal, or that it couldn't happen honestly aren't looking at the numbers.

Dielman -
Rivera's contract is canceled out and replaced with Dielman's. Dielman is one of the best offensive linemen out of San Diego. Our head coach was the defensive coordinator from San Diego, and has seen the guy every day since 2004. We have a hole at offensive guard, who do you think Phillips would look at first to fill that hole? Lets be serious...

Leonard Davis
We're going to have a hole at left tackle in 2008-9. And I don't see the point in resigning Flozell Adams. Leonard Davis could fill that spot. And then we could still make use of Kosier. Who can probably play every spot on the line. Signing players in the first year isn't especially expensive.

By the time the cost of either Davis or Dielman got onto the books, both Rivera and Adams would be off.

Having players like Dielman run blocking for you makes the difference between having a LaDainian Tomlinson or a Julius Jones...

I've got a better option. We should sign Davis, Dielman, Colombo, *and* a Unicorn. A Unicorn could gore people with its horn. It could replace Kosier for a year and then move into the LT spot that will be opening after Flozell is gone. Imagine an OL that looks like this:

Colombo
Dielman
Gurode
A Unicorn
Adams

Or, we could keep Kosier at LG and put the Unicorn in the backfield. Julius Jones could ride it on draw plays, goring and trampling everybody that even tried to get close. A Unicorn is the real difference between having a JJ in the backfield and having an LT. During the offseason, we could let TO feed it and ride it to parties.

I don't know how expensive Unicorns are, though. Probably a lot of money upfront, but not too much in salary each year once they're on board. We could definitely handle it with the money we save by cutting Bledsoe.

 

[Stash]

I've got a better option. We should sign Davis, Dielman, Colombo, *and* a Unicorn. A Unicorn could gore people with its horn. It could replace Kosier for a year and then move into the LT spot that will be opening after Flozell is gone. Imagine an OL that looks like this:

Colombo
Dielman
Gurode
A Unicorn
Adams

Or, we could keep Kosier at LG and put the Unicorn in the backfield. Julius Jones could ride it on draw plays, goring and trampling everybody that even tried to get close. A Unicorn is the real difference between having a JJ in the backfield and having an LT. During the offseason, we could let TO feed it and ride it to parties.

I don't know how expensive Unicorns are, though. Probably a lot of money upfront, but not too much in salary each year once they're on board. We could definitely handle it with the money we save by cutting Bledsoe.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I've got a better option. We should sign Davis, Dielman, Colombo, *and* a Unicorn. A Unicorn could gore people with its horn. It could replace Kosier for a year and then move into the LT spot that will be opening after Flozell is gone. Imagine an OL that looks like this:

Colombo
Dielman
Gurode
A Unicorn
Adams

Or, we could keep Kosier at LG and put the Unicorn in the backfield. Julius Jones could ride it on draw plays, goring and trampling everybody that even tried to get close. A Unicorn is the real difference between having a JJ in the backfield and having an LT. During the offseason, we could let TO feed it and ride it to parties.

I don't know how expensive Unicorns are, though. Probably a lot of money upfront, but not too much in salary each year once they're on board. We could definitely handle it with the money we save by cutting Bledsoe.

You ROCK!

:laugh2:

 

[MrMom]

I've got a better option. We should sign Davis, Dielman, Colombo, *and* a Unicorn. A Unicorn could gore people with its horn. It could replace Kosier for a year and then move into the LT spot that will be opening after Flozell is gone. Imagine an OL that looks like this:

Colombo
Dielman
Gurode
A Unicorn
Adams

Or, we could keep Kosier at LG and put the Unicorn in the backfield. Julius Jones could ride it on draw plays, goring and trampling everybody that even tried to get close. A Unicorn is the real difference between having a JJ in the backfield and having an LT. During the offseason, we could let TO feed it and ride it to parties.

I don't know how expensive Unicorns are, though. Probably a lot of money upfront, but not too much in salary each year once they're on board. We could definitely handle it with the money we save by cutting Bledsoe.

 

[superpunk]

I'm on board with plan unicorn.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I'm high on a Unicorn too because it has ideal size/speed at 6' 3" 500 pounds running 3.2 in the forty. Only problem is it only benched 225 once and nearly broke it's horn.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I'm on board with plan unicorn.

I think his agent would ask for too much.

Wonder if it could be an incentive laden contract.

 

[superpunk]

I think his agent would ask for too much.

Wonder if it could be an incentive laden contract.

When have you ever seen a unicorn sign an incentive laden contract?

Don't be ridiculous.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

When have you ever seen a unicorn sign an incentive laden contract?

Don't be ridiculous.

Yes but from my understanding the Unicorn played High School football in Texas and he might be a Cowboys fan thus giving us a huge discount.

 

[TNCowboy]

I've got a better option. We should sign Davis, Dielman, Colombo, *and* a Unicorn. A Unicorn could gore people with its horn. It could replace Kosier for a year and then move into the LT spot that will be opening after Flozell is gone. Imagine an OL that looks like this:

Colombo
Dielman
Gurode
A Unicorn
Adams

Or, we could keep Kosier at LG and put the Unicorn in the backfield. Julius Jones could ride it on draw plays, goring and trampling everybody that even tried to get close. A Unicorn is the real difference between having a JJ in the backfield and having an LT. During the offseason, we could let TO feed it and ride it to parties.

I don't know how expensive Unicorns are, though. Probably a lot of money upfront, but not too much in salary each year once they're on board. We could definitely handle it with the money we save by cutting Bledsoe.